Dual SVS PB13-ULTRA or Dual Seaton Submersive (Slave) or Dual Rythmik FV15HP - Page 7 - AVS Forum
View Poll Results: What dual sub solution would you recommend for this 16 X 27 X 9 room?
Dual SVS PB13-ULTRA's 17 20.24%
DUAL Seaton Submersive HP+ (Master/Slave) 30 35.71%
DUAL Seaton Submersive F2+ (Master/Slave) 12 14.29%
Dual Rhythmik FV15HP 25 29.76%
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post #181 of 200 Old 11-29-2013, 07:42 PM
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I would really want to see some measurements for the FTW 21, but it does look like it could be a great driver. The only problem is whatever enclosure you put it in has to be so very big and heavy, unless you go sonotube.

It also uses some of the parts from the UXL driver, so it should have a few dB's over a UXL at the very least.

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I would really want to see some measurements for the FTW 21, but it does look like it could be a great driver. The only problem is whatever enclosure you put it in has to be so very big and heavy, unless you go sonotube.

Like jb mentioned (it was he that brought the driver to my attention, I always dealt or looked at the UXL when over there) 6 cubes is not that large at all to some. Go BB13 ply with 6 point bracing it wouldn’t be to bad at all considering. BB being 60 4 X 8, driver being 70, we’re coming in at 130 guestimate.

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I see what you guys are saying, but at these sizes, every inch of size increase means an even greater amount of weight than the previous inch. I could see a properly braced 24"x24"x18" going well over 100 lbs easy. However, if you sonotube it, probably wouldn't be that bad at all. My back is kind of sore right now, so it is painful to think about moving around a massive sub right now, but maybe I am just a bit too sensitive for that at the moment, lol.

If you were to sonotube it, you would need at least an 24" diameter sonotube I am guessing. You know what I would love to see, a dual opposed FTW 21 Sonotube, sort of like a extra large version of Bossobass's Raven subs. If my math is right, for that you would need a 3.8' high 24" diameter sonotube, would would be an approximately 12 cubic foot volume. That would be a very formidable subwoofer.
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I see what you guys are saying, but at these sizes, every inch of size increase means an even greater amount of weight than the previous inch. I could see a properly braced 24"x24"x18" going well over 100 lbs easy. However, if you sonotube it, probably wouldn't be that bad at all. My back is kind of sore right now, so it is painful to think about moving around a massive sub right now, but maybe I am just a bit too sensitive for that at the moment, lol.

If you were to sonotube it, you would need at least an 24" diameter sonotube I am guessing. You know what I would love to see, a dual opposed FTW 21 Sonotube, sort of like a extra large version of Bossobass's Raven subs. If my math is right, for that you would need a 3.8' high 24" diameter sonotube, would would be an approximately 12 cubic foot volume. That would be a very formidable subwoofer.

I'm looking at building dual FTW-21's in 6cu.ft sealed boxes and using a Speakerpower SP1-4000 amp and setting it up like how Seaton does using one amp and making a master/slave combo. That plus my XS30's should knock my socks off. I prefer the idea of two smaller subs over two sonotube setups.

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130 would come in at what two big dog popular subs come in at around here though. I quit looking on account of I know others would also including exceed. I won’t argue with you on the sono idea though. I would opt for the two singles myself. Your math is right. That being that I personally have moved away from the larger subs except I am planning on a dual PR 15” SDX build since I want more experience with PR’s. I’m looking at 6.6 c f to do it right though. rolleyes.gif

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I'm looking at building dual FTW-21's in 6cu.ft sealed boxes and using a Speakerpower SP1-4000 amp and setting it up like how Seaton does using one amp and making a master/slave combo. That plus my XS30's should knock my socks off. I prefer the idea of two smaller subs over two sonotube setups.

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I know how you feel BeeMan, I was going to buy two FTW-21 drivers to build a couple DIY subs and I just chewed up that budget spending $1200 on four snow tires for my vehicle! rolleyes.gif And of course Christmas is next month so it'll probably have to wait till the New Year now.

Rythmik is running out of the FV15HPs so I put a reservation in for a pair of black oak finished, FV15HPs. The candle is lit. biggrin.gif
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Rythmik is running out of the FV15HPs so I put a reservation in for a pair of black oak finished, FV15HPs. The candle is lit. biggrin.gif

So in the end that’s what you finally landed on. Cool! CONGRATS! I can see yuh strutting around for awhile.. hphphpHPEEE! a-hen-that-lays-golden-eggs-smiley-emoticon.gif biggrin.gif

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So in the end that’s what you finally landed on. Cool! CONGRATS! I can see yuh strutting around for awhile.. hphphpHPEEE! biggrin.gif

Thanks! I have no idea how to characterize the feeling as pretty much, all I'm thinking of are the many way cool movies I'll be able to watch at home, in the way they were intended to be watched; a minimum 60" screen, coupled to a reference capable system with lots of headroom and excellent extension. I'm looking forward to experiencing all that we've been missing.

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Rythmik is running out of the FV15HPs so I put a reservation in for a pair of black oak finished, FV15HPs. The candle is lit. biggrin.gif

Well congratulations beeman it looks like you decided and are slowly pulling the trigger. 

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Thanks! I am so ready.
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Rythmik is running out of the FV15HPs so I put a reservation in for a pair of black oak finished, FV15HPs. The candle is lit. biggrin.gif

Awesome! Please add to this post once you can share your experience with them.

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Rythmik is running out of the FV15HPs so I put a reservation in for a pair of black oak finished, FV15HPs. The candle is lit. biggrin.gif

Candle, or did you mean stick of dynamite?...lol

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Candle, or did you mean stick of dynamite?...lol

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I thought it was a candle but obviously, I was handed a stick of dynamite. biggrin.gif

(honestly your honor. I had no idea)

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Unfortunately, it's almost a year later and their site(seaton) is still under construction
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Unfortunately, it's almost a year later and their site(seaton) is still under construction
Yes. JTR and Seaton have both had new sites "coming soon" for a long long time. I think it's like those furniture stores that keep a "Mattress Blowout Sale" sign in the window for several years. I know that both companies are doing well but would do MUCH better if they had a more professional web presence and someone on staff to respond to calls and emails.
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Yes. JTR and Seaton have both had new sites "coming soon" for a long long time. I think it's like those furniture stores that keep a "Mattress Blowout Sale" sign in the window for several years. I know that both companies are doing well but would do MUCH better if they had a more professional web presence and someone on staff to respond to calls and emails.
I recall one of them saying that they didnt need the website as their business is already at a point in growth that they are comfortable with and wouldn't want to expand any faster at this point.
But im sure they will comment if they feel the need to.
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Both are well known in the AVS community and other forums, so a website isn't going to make or break their business. Hell they probably don't want to generate anymore business than they already have.

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I had no problem buying a Submersive in December. ED, Epik, etc had sites and they are no longer around.

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