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Room size 15x20 12ft ceiling, one entrance into room. Sub/subs would be placed about 5 feet from listening position between L/R bookshelf speakers. Here are the options I am considering but not limited to, budget is about 1,000-1500 max if it makes sense.

One SVS PB12 NSD
Dual SVS PB12 NSD

One SVS PB12 +

SVS SB13 Ultra ----( Top of my current list due to performance/cosmetics)

PSA XV30 or XV30F or XS30

Outlaw EX Dual

HSU VTF 15

Rythmik FV15HP





I dont listen at reference levels ( well sometimes biggrin.gif) , this room is a dedicated media room, with room treatments that help block out sound from other parts of my home. The room (still under construction) will be used for movies, sports, tv, gaming and music all equally except music. My goal is to buy a subwoofer that will fill my room with bass look good while doing it and keep me satisfied for years to come.

I currently own 3 SB12's one used in my bedroom and the other two in my family room down stairs, very happy with their performance. I want to try something different for my media room ( because this site always makes you feel like your missing out on something bigger and better in the world of bass) but could honestly be happy with dual SB12's if it came down to it.
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For single sub application if cost is an issue, HSU VTF 15 will prove max bang for buck. Though my personal favourite is FV15HP.

For duals, PSA XV15 will put cracks in your walls at a very reasonable cost.

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My vote would be pretty much the same as bravehearts, go with dual XV15's or a single FV15HP. First choice would be a single FV15HP but only "IF" you could see yourself adding a second one down the road. Otherwise go with duals just to start with a grab a pair of XV15's. Dual subs really help smooth out the bass in a room and help with room modes, nulls and peaks.

After personally having multiple subs I could never see myself going back to a single sub in my theatre room.
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My vote would be pretty much the same as bravehearts, go with dual XV15's or a single FV15HP. First choice would be a single FV15HP but only "IF" you could see yourself adding a second one down the road. Otherwise go with duals just to start with a grab a pair of XV15's. Dual subs really help smooth out the bass in a room and help with room modes, nulls and peaks.

After personally having multiple subs I could never see myself going back to a single sub in my theatre room.

Why the FV15HP over say the PSA XV30/F or PB12 Ultra?

and why the XV15 over the PB12 NSD?
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Why the FV15HP over say the PSA XV30/F or PB12 Ultra?

and why the XV15 over the PB12 NSD?


Well I base that on the fact that the XV30 only really has about a 3dB advantage over the XV15. So if we take a look at the data-bass.com numbers on the XV15 it hits 98db@16hz, 102.7@20hz, 106.2@25hz and 109.6db@31hz, so that means the XV30 would hit roughly 101db@16hz, 106db@20hz, 109db@25hz and 113db@30hz.

Now if you look at the numbers on the FV15HP it hits 104db@16hz, 108db@20hz, 111.7db@25hz and 115.3db@31hz, not to mention in single port mode it'll extend down to 12hz. The XV30 can't really do that. So it holds about a 2db advantage over the XV30 and costs pretty much the same price.
Now I will say that the XV30 IMO does have a better warranty because they warranty their amps for 5 years. So that's something to consider, usually when something fails on subs it most likely going to be the amp.

I know of one PSA forum member who's owned both the XV15 and the PB12NSD and in his opinion the XV15 had quite a noticeable amount more of output.
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Also PB12 Plus is no match to FV15HP. If you go with simple veneer finish, fv15hp has roughly the same price tag as does pb12 plus; but the performance is at par with pb13 ultra.

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You might try dual Dayton Titanic 15" kits, that will run you less than $1.5k shipped when you factor in the Black Friday rebate. Less expensive than the SB13 but way more displacement and also with the advantages of room smoothing. It's a kit and needs assembly, but that is extremely easy, just watch the video on the product page. The driver is high quality, it should sound very nice. Two will pulverize you. If you really want a nice frequency response you could get three Outlaw LFM Pluses for $1.5k if you have room for them, they do have very good performance with decent drivers.
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