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More pics next to my pb1000...




Awesome! Thanks for the side by side! I was curious how much bigger this was going to be than my 1000.

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Btw...love how it sounds. Regardless if someone bought a pb1000 or 2000 they would be very happy. This things digs just as deep and then some in to the subsonics with alot more force. I can actually feel the subsonics pressurizing even at moderate volumes which is something the 1000 didnt do nearly as well.

Since I am upgrading from the 1000 as well, would you say it is significantly better? Or just more of a minor improvement?

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Got a present from fedex today :-)

WOW NICE, the 2000 is much bigger, i hope you like it.

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Getting pretty solid output down to 16 Hz with my PB2000.  Anyone else measured theirs?


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Few more and a video full throttle at 20hz on the couch...rattling noise is the door biggrin.gif

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Since I am upgrading from the 1000 as well, would you say it is significantly better? Or just more of a minor improvement?
well it depends on what youre looking for. I was looking for more output and 'feel' of the subsonic stuff which this definatley gives more of over the 1000 and it definately gets louder.

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well it depends on what youre looking for. I was looking for more output and 'feel' of the subsonic stuff which this definatley gives more of over the 1000 and it definately gets louder.

Good enough for me!

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can anyone recommend a floor standing speaker that can be paired with a pb2000 crossed over at 80hz for around $1000 a pair 50% movies and music
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can anyone recommend a floor standing speaker that can be paired with a pb2000 crossed over at 80hz for around $1000 a pair 50% movies and music

I like Polks.
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Haven't bought these yet but had lower end models and liked them a lot. Considering these ones now.

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can anyone recommend a floor standing speaker that can be paired with a pb2000 crossed over at 80hz for around $1000 a pair 50% movies and music

I really like NHT speakers. The Absolute Tower would be nice!

Indecision may or may not be my problem.
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I need some help. I have dual pb2000s & every now and then i hear a weird sound coming from one of my subs . It almost sounds like someone taps a microphone and its totally random. Any input would be appreciated.
anybody have this issue?
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anybody have this issue?

I wouldn't hesitate in giving SVS a call or mail going over the problem with them. It could be something on your end that needs addressing or possibly the sub?? One way or the other they will do what they can to solve the issue for you.

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Absolutely contact SVS. The forums are often your best source for help but it's tough to find better service with a company like SVS. I won't even consider buying a sub from another company. After much deliberation and support from both this site and SVS emails I've decided to keep my dual PB-2000 setup and focus more on sound treatment. These subs are fantastic for the price and my space.

An ultra is quite tempting but I love dual subs and budget doesn't allow for 2 ultras. Anyway, contact them with anything. One of my 2000s arrived with a sloppy seam and Ed Mullen offered to exchange it outright or knock 10% off the price. Seeing as the sub played fine I chose the credit. Point is, they'll get to the bottom of any issue you may have.
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can anyone recommend a floor standing speaker that can be paired with a pb2000 crossed over at 80hz for around $1000 a pair 50% movies and music

Why do you have to set the crossover at 80Hz with the PB 2000? What difference will it make if, say, the crossover is set at 60Hz and speakers set to "small"? Thanks.
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So I ordered my PB-2000 on Saturday and got a shipping notification email on Monday. As of this morning it still shows as "initiated" and no tracking info, even though it was supposed to come today. I just contacted SVS and they didn't ship it yet! mad.gif They have had a backlog of orders (not surprising) and will try to get it out today or tomorrow. Just sharing in case anyone else is in limbo like me. Love their service, but this is a little annoying.

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So I ordered my PB-2000 on Saturday and got a shipping notification email on Monday. As of this morning it still shows as "initiated" and no tracking info, even though it was supposed to come today. I just contacted SVS and they didn't ship it yet! mad.gif They have had a backlog of orders (not surprising) and will try to get it out today or tomorrow. Just sharing in case anyone else is in limbo like me. Love their service, but this is a little annoying.

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How's everyone setting up their pb2000? I'm running mine with Totem Mani-2 fronts, mite t center and mite surround, yamaha rx 2030 with emotiva xpa3. I'm not quite getting all that I want. Something's missing. I'm not getting that kick in the chest I'm looking for. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to move up to the pc12 plus in a couple of weeks if I don't see more improvements. Hopefully the pc12 plus will give me what I need; although I'm also eyeing the sb13 ultra as well. Both of these will give me a smaller foot print, which I can really appreciate; but I'd like to save some money if I can make the pb2000 work.

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Forgot to add, I ran YPAO and have it xover at 80hz.

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Why do you have to set the crossover at 80Hz with the PB 2000? What difference will it make if, say, the crossover is set at 60Hz and speakers set to "small"? Thanks.

 

I'm expecting delivery of my SB-2000 tomorrow, but right now I have floor-standing speakers front and rear in a 5.1 configuration with PB-1000, crossover set @ 60hz. In fact, that's what SVS recommends in its customer service FAQ:

 

Typical Recommended Speaker/Subwoofer Crossover Settings:

  • Very small or ‘satellite’ loudspeakers: 120-150 Hz.
  • Small to mid-size center channels, surrounds and bookshelf loudspeakers: 80-100 Hz.
  • Larger center channels, surrounds and bookshelf monitors: 60-80 Hz.
  • Tower speakers with smaller (i.e., 4”-6”) woofers: 60 Hz
  • Tower speakers with larger (i.e., 8”-10”) woofers: 40 Hz or Large/Full-Band (refer to the below FAQ for more details on the best settings for bass-capable tower speakers).
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How's everyone setting up their pb2000? I'm running mine with Totem Mani-2 fronts, mite t center and mite surround, yamaha rx 2030 with emotiva xpa3. I'm not quite getting all that I want. Something's missing. I'm not getting that kick in the chest I'm looking for. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to move up to the pc12 plus in a couple of weeks if I don't see more improvements. Hopefully the pc12 plus will give me what I need; although I'm also eyeing the sb13 ultra as well. Both of these will give me a smaller foot print, which I can really appreciate; but I'd like to save some money if I can make the pb2000 work.

How big is your space? Did you do a sub crawl to find optimal placement? I know that these 2 things will be a factor in the outcome.

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I need some help. I have dual pb2000s & every now and then i hear a weird sound coming from one of my subs . It almost sounds like someone taps a microphone and its totally random. Any input would be appreciated.

It's definitely a ghost.
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How big is your space? Did you do a sub crawl to find optimal placement? I know that these 2 things will be a factor in the outcome.

Space is about 3500 to 4000 cf. Unfortunately there's only one spot I can place it, 2 ft from my front right speaker.

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Space is about 3500 to 4000 cf. Unfortunately there's only one spot I can place it, 2 ft from my front right speaker.

Placement is huge when trying to find the best bass. You could put an ultra in the wrong spot and it won't sound right.
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Space is about 3500 to 4000 cf. Unfortunately there's only one spot I can place it, 2 ft from my front right speaker.

That's a pretty big room to be expecting "kcik in the chest" type bass from a single mid-range sub. Even the PC12+ might not give you that in that room. You might need duals of the plus or ultra to get what you are describing.

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I'm expecting delivery of my SB-2000 tomorrow, but right now I have floor-standing speakers front and rear in a 5.1 configuration with PB-1000, crossover set @ 60hz. In fact, that's what SVS recommends in its customer service FAQ:

Typical Recommended Speaker/Subwoofer Crossover Settings:
  • Very small or ‘satellite’ loudspeakers: 120-150 Hz.
  • Small to mid-size center channels, surrounds and bookshelf loudspeakers: 80-100 Hz.
  • Larger center channels, surrounds and bookshelf monitors: 60-80 Hz.
  • Tower speakers with smaller (i.e., 4”-6”) woofers: 60 Hz
  • Tower speakers with larger (i.e., 8”-10”) woofers: 40 Hz or Large/Full-Band (refer to the below FAQ for more details on the best settings for bass-capable tower speakers).

I am wondering what difference in sound quality is there if you set crossover at 60Hz instead of 80Hz for tower speakers with 4"-6" woofers when speakers are set to "small"? Will there be a minute difference or a very noticeable one in SQ? Has anyone experienced it? Thanks.
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I am wondering what difference in sound quality is there if you set crossover at 60Hz instead of 80Hz for tower speakers with 4"-6" woofers when speakers are set to "small"? Will there be a minute difference or a very noticeable one in SQ? Has anyone experienced it? Thanks.

 

I notice only a minor difference, and only then at higher volume.

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Why do you have to set the crossover at 80Hz with the PB 2000? What difference will it make if, say, the crossover is set at 60Hz and speakers set to "small"? Thanks.
wouldn't lowering the crossover lower the amount of LFE you hear ?
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wouldn't lowering the crossover lower the amount of LFE you hear ?
No. The crossover settings determine which speaker channel frequencies (e.g., 80Hz and above) go to the speakers and which frequencies (e.g., below 80Hz) go to the sub via the AVR's subwoofer output.

The LFE (.1) channel is separate from the speaker channels. Adjusting the crossover settings does not affect it. So, unless you lower the "LPF of LFE" (the LFE channel's low-pass filter) from the default 120Hz, all available content in the LFE channel also goes to the sub via the AVR's subwoofer output.
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No. The crossover settings determine which speaker channel frequencies (e.g., 80Hz and above) go to the speakers and which frequencies (e.g., below 80Hz) go to the sub via the AVR's subwoofer output.

The LFE (.1) channel is separate from the speaker channels. Adjusting the crossover settings does not affect it. So, unless you lower the "LPF of LFE" (the LFE channel's low-pass filter) from the default 120Hz, all available content in the LFE channel also goes to the sub via the AVR's subwoofer output.

I am a bit confused. So, if I want punchier and fuller bass when listening to music and watching movies, the higher crossover Hz setting, say 80Hz v/s 60Hz, will produce fuller bass? Is that assumption correct? What happens if you set the crossover at the highest Hz, say 120 Hz for the main front speakers? Will the bass output be too localized and distort the sound quality of the sound coming from the main front speakers? Thanks.
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I am a bit confused. So, if I want punchier and fuller bass when listening to music and watching movies, the higher crossover Hz setting, say 80Hz v/s 60Hz, will produce fuller bass? Is that assumption correct? What happens if you set the crossover at the highest Hz, say 120 Hz for the main front speakers? Will the bass output be too localized and distort the sound quality of the sound coming from the main front speakers? Thanks.

If you cross your sub higher than 80 Hz, then yes, at some point, you will be able to localize the bass.  If you have your sub up front, you can sometimes get away with a higher crossover.  But nearfield, in my experience, you will notice it sooner.

 

If the bass sounds better to you crossed as high as 120, then that is fine, it won't detract from the sound quality of your speakers.  In fact, crossing with a sub can improve sound quality and lower distortion.  Bass is much harder to produce than midrange and treble, so taking this load off of your speakers will allow them to play louder and cleaner with less strain on your AVR.

 

As far as wether or not crossing at 60, 80, or 120 Hz will provide fuller bass, that is entirely dependant on your room and your equipment.  If you have large floorstanders that play strong down to 40 Hz, you might get better, smoother bass crossing at 60Hz than at 80 or 120.  In this scenario, if your single sub has a null from 60-80 Hz at your MLP, then crossing at 60 and allowing your mains to produce these frequencies would be better.  But, if you mains are weak below 80 or 120, then you might get fuller bass from your sub and crossing at 100, for example.

 

Also, making sure the phase on all your speaker is correct can have a nice impact on punchiness, since the crossover is often around the frequency where you can notice mid-bass punch with music.  If the speakers and sub are out of phase with each other, you will have much less impact in the crossover area.

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