Originally Posted by tlb48
i said that wrong, it is on a wall near what would be a corner wall but instead is a 4' opening to another room. also is there a break in period on the pb2000
If I understand you correctly, I have a somewhat analogous situation. My front right corner is an open doorway to an alcove, which is closed off otherwise by a door to a bedroom that leads from the alcove. I have the PB2000 ~ 1 foot from that doorway on the right half-wall , which divides the room there from an open stairwell going downstairs. I have the sub pointing away from the right wall toward the middle of the room, almost exactly inline with the front speaker plane, with a leather love seat alongside it on its other side. This spot was a good one on my sub-crawl and I'm thankful for that as it's a good spot for aesthetics and function too.
I would consider myself one of the least expert posters on this board about subwoofers but as many say, that particular sub in that particular room and its placement will be the deciding factor whether it works or not. My listening area is the living room portion of a great room, constituting probably one-third of a 30X25+ sq ft room, with vaulted ceilings (multiple peaks up to ~ 12 ft), with an open stairwell, the above noted alcove and a long hallway off the opposite side, adding up to well over 7000 cu ft. Its a complicated room with half-walls, many acute corner angles, wall to wall carpet (wood subflooring) except for the adjacent kitchen with wood flooring, fieldstone fireplace, some drywall walls with art (or not), a wood covered wall and wallpaper and cabinets in the kitchen and dining areas. By "the numbers" this sub should be woefully inadequate by what I've read and learned here and elsewhere, however, I think it sounds fantastic.
It is a very bass responsive room but not "boomy" nor is the sub. I'm finding the LF bass in music to be quite clear and I've been listening obsessively to all kinds of heavy bass music since I got it last week, as well as my usual gamut of A-Z (Alternative to Zydeco) tunes and find it quite musical. The even bigger bonus is that it rumbles the listening area and me with the infra-20 Hz special effects in movies. I just finished watching Das Boot
(BD with DTS-HD-Master soundtrack), which has a great SF/X soundtrack to begin with, and those depth charges, bombing runs and wave crashes are concussive and visceral. Same with Saving Private Ryan
and Pacific Rim
. As I've read posts from others who consider the PB2000 anemic in rooms the size of my smallest bedroom, I can only conclude that their room acoustics are seriously working against them, or they have some expectation from a SW that I could not even begin to understand. In a nutshell, I do believe this big room with all of its complicating factors ends up truly working for me. Apparently I got lucky.
This PB2000 is replacing a Paradigm PDR10 that suddenly developed its own rattle after many years of good service. Frankly, I was pretty happy with it and started off thinking I was going to replace with a budget 12" sub but after a few pieces of sound advice on the budget sub thread, I did a little more research and opted for this excellent SW. I'm not a "basshead" by any stretch but cannot believe I could utilize more than what this sub delivers. My volume listening habits are pretty tame too, so I've yet to test this unit to its extreme either. I'm not even sure why I chose this sub over others at a similar price point, once I decided to up the ante, other than what I was reading about it and SVS, which made sense for me.
So what's my point? My suggestion, as I'm in no position to give advice, is to try it. The return policy on these is insane, which is great for the consumer. If it doesn't work you really have lost nothing. As far as a break-in period, I'm sure there is one. I bought this one as an outlet special. It has a nearly invisible "bubble" in the vinyl rap in a corner that's hidden where I've placed it anyway, so I don't know if it's a return that's been used awhile or a new blemished unit. It keeps sounding better to me FWIW.
BTW, at this point I have just dialed it in myself with my piddly Audyssey 2EQ, which doesn't even equalize a SW. I'm planning on talking to the SVS guys still to see if they have anything to add for further benefit. I don't have any calibrating gear but can tell I get some volume drop somewhere between 45-50 Hz and somewhere between 55-60 Hz just by listening to a low end sweep. Unscientific I know, so maybe I'll get one of those USB mics and try REW one of these days. Walking around the whole great room I can certainly ID nulls, though it's of little relevance as 99.9% of all listening is from my wife's and my recliners, which by ear are nearly identical and where all of the sound is focused. It certainly begins to rattle the room by 10 Hz and appears pretty solid to me by 15 Hz, hence is living up to its reputation of digging deep.