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Hey guys, new here....been reading a lot of threads in here & see you guys know your sh!t.....so I'm looking for a sub to go a long with my Klipsch rf7's....here's the facts: I'm a bass head & like it loud! 70/30 music/theater (all kinds) but MOSTLY Dubstep/Trap/D&B...room size 14'x25'x10' (2 openings on ends, ones a lot bigger of an opening...$600 to $800 budget....any advice would be greatly appreciated, THNX
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IMO: Start with either a PSA XV15 or the newly-released SVS PB-2000 - both of which are $799, shipped - and add another one later on.
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Thnx, I have looked up both of them & yeah they seem like really nice subs & I also like the Hsu V15 but wonder if the 15" driver would still hit tight for like old rock, metal....music like that?
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+1 on eljaycanucks's comments.

The problem with subwoofers, there's never enough and if a basshead, you'll "ALWAYS" want more. As suggested, you're best served with a XV15 and if you can go larger, do. Later, you'll find you'll need a second one. It's best to buy one you can add to, rather than two of what you're not going want to add to.
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Thnx, I have looked up both of them & yeah they seem like really nice subs & I also like the Hsu V15 but wonder if the 15" driver would still hit tight for like old rock, metal....music like that?

If you're really a bass head, then you're going to want at least two to start with. That's a pretty big space. A pair of HSU VTF-15s would be great as would the XV15 and PB2000s.

You might even need a pair of Rythmik FV-15HPs if you're a real bass head, heck you might even need a pair of JTRs or Seatons or a pair of PSA Triaxes. Just depends on how much bass you want.

IMO though you're not going to get it for $800.

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Yeah the thing is, I'm running a old & I mean old DCM sub with front & down firing 12's & it hits, of course with help from the Klipsch 4 10's....so anything new I'm sure I'll be happy with but yeah looking for the the best bang for the buck ya ...lol
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Subwoofers are a terrible thing. If you buy cheap, you buy disappointment and if you buy just a bit better, one gets sucked into the very expensive upgrade game.

One is best served buying the best they can afford and later buy a second one with a watchful eye on a possible third. And painfully I post, this is not an exaggeration. I wish I could be encouraging, but I can't, other than to say, welcome to AVS and the wonderful world of subwoofers.

I always encourage one to check out the budget subwoofer threads running and the ULF thread as between these threads, one will get a heck of a lot of experience reading what others have to say on the matter.
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The XV15 is an excellent bang for the buck sub. If the PB-2000 lives up to its specs and SVS' reputation, it'll be one, too.

If you're really unsure where to start, IMO start with the PB-2000 if only because SVS offers free return shipping within 45 days, so an in-home demo costs you $0.
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Thnx BeeMann & yeah I know the endless world of bass because spending so much on different car systems & I have been reading for days & days in AVS, actually I have been learning quite a lot from ppl's knowledge in here.
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Good luck with your quest. wink.gif
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The XV15 is an excellent bang for the buck sub. If the PB-2000 lives up to its specs and SVS' reputation, it'll be one, too.

If you're really unsure where to start, IMO start with the PB-2000 if only because SVS offers free return shipping within 45 days, so an in-home demo costs you $0.

I see from reading, SVS is an excellent Company for sure & has badass subs!
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I would go for a Hsu VTF3 or VTF15h, they will keep an even sound at higher levels of output, same with the SVS subs. For the range of bass where most electronic music hits, 40 Hz+, the VTF15h is a flat 115 dB on up and the VTF3 is nearly flat 112 dB on up. I don't think the new PB2000 will match that, and the XV15 does not stay even in that range.
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Thnx Shady, yeah I've been leaning towards Hsu ... You think the VTF3MK4 will give me what I want? & I can also add another one later
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Thnx Shady, yeah I've been leaning towards Hsu ... You think the VTF3MK4 will give me what I want? & I can also add another one later

Have you checked out Data-Bass and the first couple of posts in the ULF thread?
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For the kind of music you listen to, I think the Hsu VTF3 will have an advantage over the PB2000 and XV15 but not a very big one. For movies, I think the PB2000 could possibly be the best of the bunch if the rumored performance gains over their previous NSD model is true. The VTF15h would be the best of the bunch but it is over your budget. You will want to run the VTF3 with both ports open for loud music.
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@BeeMan...I have poked around on that site & have read some stuff on there but not seeing a ulf thread?
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Thnx shady & I do like the VTF15 maybe I could wait till a sale & hopefully save on shipping & pick it up myself
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Yeah, if you are close to Anaheim, that makes the VTF15h a real bargain, as shipping is brutal on that thing. If you do try to pick one up, make sure you have the cargo space for it because it would come in a huge box. Don't forget you could try it and return it for a full refund within 30 days if you don't like it, and living nearby makes that a hell of a lot less expensive.
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@BeeMan...I have poked around on that site & have read some stuff on there but not seeing a ulf thread?

ULF thread.

The main takeaway from the first couple of posts, is how much it takes to fill a room with subwoofer reproduced sound waves and to what extent.
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No wonder I didn't see it, you said data bass so I thought databass.com......lol.....thnx, I'll read that thread
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Your space would benefit from dual subwoofers. I would also recommend going with SVS first before you try HSU. WHY? Because they offer shipping both ways free so your in home trial cost you nothing and you also are able to establish a baseline.

Mr. ShadyJ does not like PSA, he hates their existence tongue.gif, but most here (owners, reviewers) highly recommend considering what they have to offer. Like frequent members on this board he is very knowledgeable ( just very opinionated and bias at times, but still a good guy wink.gif ) so take a look at your recommendations, compare price, warranty, cost and performance and make an informed decision.


I would up your budget if possible and buy two PB12-NSD's. If not go with dual PB1000's
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No wonder I didn't see it, you said data bass so I thought databass.com......lol.....thnx, I'll read that thread

You're right, my fault. I'll be better making sure to define that I'm recommending two different site locations.
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