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I am coming from a Velo CHT 10 and CHT 15. I assume the duals will be better?

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You will be better off with the three sub. It will give a more even response and increase headroom for extension and dynamic peaks.

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I am coming from a Velo CHT 10 and CHT 15. I assume the duals will be better?

I agree with your assumption.
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I'd take 2 xv15s over 1 pb12 plus any day of the week and never think twice about it

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Yeah after further research, I went with the PC13 ultra. Plan on duals later down the road. Maybe I can run the cht15 with the PC13 until I get the funds for the second pc13. Will it sound mis matched?
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Yeah after further research, I went with the PC13 ultra. Plan on duals later down the road. Maybe I can run the cht15 with the PC13 until I get the funds for the second pc13. Will it sound mis matched?

The PLUS takes out the XV15 quite handedly and the ULTRA even more. They both are much more superior subs taking the power plant into consideration also. This in no way is a slam towards the XV15 though. It’s just the way the cookie crumbles is all. Congrats on your new ULTRA though.

Back in the day I used to have a couple of CHT15"s. They are nothing like what you have on the way though. Compare them over at Data. My first SVS was a CS+ and it totally wowed me with the extension spl capability over the CHT’s.

EDIT> The CHT is the same as the ct over at Data. Anyway at 20hz it would take more than 5 ct/CHT’s to equal the ULTRA in some form or fashion.

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Thanks for the information! Wife thinks I'm crazy because she thinks the current subs are fine. So it would take 6 cht 15's to get the output and room even-Ness to equal the ultra?
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Should I put it where the 15 is on the right side?
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Thanks for the information! Wife thinks I'm crazy because she thinks the current subs are fine. So it would take 6 cht 15's to get the output and room even-Ness to equal the ultra?

That was max output I posted. If you went with 5 CT’s the line would still have that disparity after you dialed them back to calibration. Your bottom line is you will notice a huge difference in the material that you listen to. You’ll most likely say to yourself.. wohhh!!! I had no idea that was there.
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Should I put it where the 15 is on the right side?

I can see where that would/could be the best placement, but only you can answer that. Try that first and see what you think? You don't have a meter do you?

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Yeah after further research, I went with the PC13 ultra. Plan on duals later down the road. Maybe I can run the cht15 with the PC13 until I get the funds for the second pc13. Will it sound mis matched?

I dunno wink.gif How about you get the ULTRA dialed in and give it a little time. Then just for kicks incorporate the CT’s and see what you think? Imo.. eh! see what you think? Oh! Congrats on your new ULTRA though. cool.gif

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Thanks Steve! I might just try and sell the CHT's and try to get 350 or so for both. I do not have a meter but maybe I need to get one. I see you are a Klipsch guy too ;) nice!  I just bought a new Yamaha Aventage 1030 so I assume that I just use the internal crossover in the reciver 60 or 80 htz. to set this thing up? I'm venturing into an unknown realm here with this new sub. Seems complicated lol. Any other words of wisdom on setup from knowlegable guys like you is greatly appreciated. Thanks for the congrats! I'm sure I'll love it!  

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No prob.. Yeah I could see them selling at that price! 80 cross is generally what we go with though. Feel free to PM me if there is any way I can help? I’m not familiar with your receiver but I’m willing to download if need be. You can always post in this thread, we all have our different expertise's or interests concerning our gear. Klipsch? hey cool, they sure work for me. I actually have Ed to thank for that or I never would have even tried them.

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Okay, Maybe this is an unfair first impression since I only let the SVS PC13-ultra break in for 8 hrs. It seems to me that my Yamaha 1030's YPOA is not doing this sub justice. I set all speakers to "small" ran YPAO and these are the results. ALL speakers were set to large, the program set it to -2, SW trim was set to +3.5 all while I had the sub to -10 as the manual stated. I watched Lord of the rings on blu ray and while it gave some deep bass, it wasn't at the SPL I was expecting. It may be the right corner however, my old dual Veloy cht seemed to be louder. I was expecting the punch in the chest on certain scenes.  Any suggestions? Also, I didn't use my "Y' splitter as advised against per SVS. Any help would

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Okay, Maybe this is an unfair first impression since I only let the SVS PC13-ultra break in for 8 hrs. It seems to me that my Yamaha 1030's YPOA is not doing this sub justice. I set all speakers to "small" ran YPAO and these are the results. ALL speakers were set to large, the program set it to -2, SW trim was set to +3.5 all while I had the sub to -10 as the manual stated. I watched Lord of the rings on blu ray and while it gave some deep bass, it wasn't at the SPL I was expecting. It may be the right corner however, my old dual Veloy cht seemed to be louder. I was expecting the punch in the chest on certain scenes.  Any suggestions? Also, I didn't use my "Y' splitter as advised against per SVS. Any help would

I don't think SVS recommends break in do they?

After ypao set the speakers to large did u set them back to small and adjust all crossovers to 80hz? Ypao doesn't eq the sub, that is part of the reason I switched to all denon.

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I set them back to small with an 80hz crossover in the sub and the manual Yamaha setup. I can hear the sub go deep in certain scenes of the movie but the volume is not there like it used to be with the old subs.

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Go in to your sw trim and bring it up. Coulde be more to it from a glance though.

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It sounds a little better now. However I had to set the sub volume -7 and in the Yamaha AVR to +4.5 to achieve what sounds decent. Who knows, maybe I need 2 for my room. It's 20 x 17 with 9ft ceilings that open up into the kitchen.

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What is the gain set at on the back of your sub? OOPS! -7. Try turning your SW gain up a notch or two.

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Ok, I put the sub amp on -5 now. Quick question, for 2 channel music, should I switch the speakers back to large?
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Ok, I put the sub amp on -5 now. Quick question, for 2 channel music, should I switch the speakers back to large?

I would say no.

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Steve thanks so much for your help with all this. You're a major asset to this site.
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Steve thanks so much for your help with all this. You're a major asset to this site.
That makes my day I humbly thank you

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on another note, would it be ok to grab a PC12+ to augment the PC13? or do I have to stick with the ultras?

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You don't have to, but it would be best if you did in short. Think down the road after it's all said and done, (hey I have dual Ultras) There is more to it than that but the reality of it is, it really is the best route to go.

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Steve thanks so much for your help with all this. You're a major asset to this site.

Steve, I hope you noticed that I haven't touched this. smile.gifsmile.gifwink.gif
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LOL, that’s because you like me.

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Ok, fill me in fellas lol
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Ok, fill me in fellas lol

Some of us like to mix play here on the forum and some don’t. Tack as I, like to play/make light of certain posts and situations. At least from my standpoint anyway. wink.gif

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Ok, fill me in fellas lol


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