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[quote name="jbrown15" url="/t/1512260/jl-audio-f212-pair-vs-svs-pb13-ultra-pair-vs-funk-audio-vs-any-other-pair-of-good-sub#post_24221068" 18.0SE are priced at $2550 shipped.

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"$2550ea shipped in North America"

Does he ship worldwide?
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I'd pass on the JL because of the 20hz rolloff.

All the other subs you are considering are excellent. Id probably look past the sb13 though in that bunch...not in the same league in regards to output with the other subs down low.
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[quote name="jbrown15" url="/t/1512260/jl-audio-f212-pair-vs-svs-pb13-ultra-pair-vs-funk-audio-vs-any-other-pair-of-good-sub#post_24221068" 18.0SE are priced at $2550 shipped.

"$2550ea shipped in North America"

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I'm sure he does, but it would cost more. You'd have to contact Nathan to be sure though.
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I'm sure he does, but it would cost more. You'd have to contact Nathan to be sure though.

I won't bug him, just curious what it costs to ship a big box half way around the Earth.
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If it were my 5 grand I'd email Funk Audio about building a custom dual TSAD 18" in brindle bamboo (double 18.0). If you have that much to spend, why get something ordinary when you can have a unique sub that's designed & finished however you like? You're not limited to the veneers listed on the website. Ask Nathan about any wood that appeals to you & he may be able to get it.
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Yes or could get a one PB13 ultra and run it with the pb12 plus. I run one ultra and two pb12 +s. they work great together smile.gif

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I think with your budget the Funk option would be really nice, the TSAD18v1 driver used in the Funk subs is probably one of the best hand made drivers on the market. And Nathan using a top notch amp too, and the 18.0SE are priced at $2550 shipped. If you were considering JL's IMO these dual 18.0SE's would be a better option. Plus I believe Nathan will program the DSP on the amp to have multiple setups in it which in another nice option.

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Yes before the JL offer came along my second choice after the SVS was the Funk Audio's . SVS though have great customer service and even shipped out a new amp free of cost when the amp on the PC12 Plus popped last year. That's real solid.
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I'd pass on the JL because of the 20hz rolloff.

All the other subs you are considering are excellent. Id probably look past the sb13 though in that bunch...not in the same league in regards to output with the other subs down low.

I will be using the subs for 65% HT and 35% music. so I would def like to get well below 20hz performance for the money i'm spending.

However I just cant help but think that I could get the pair of F212's for 6 K. I might be moving to Europe mid year and then the resale value for that pair there would become a real possibility. Profit even.
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If it were my 5 grand I'd email Funk Audio about building a custom dual TSAD 18" in brindle bamboo (double 18.0). If you have that much to spend, why get something ordinary when you can have a unique sub that's designed & finished however you like? You're not limited to the veneers listed on the website. Ask Nathan about any wood that appeals to you & he may be able to get it.

thanks for the great suggestion Henrich. I will def contact Nathan to see what possibilities culd be had in my budget:)


Well tomo is the F212 demo..lets see what comes of it...
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Just to post my opinion of the JL Audio F212's after the demo. The dealer set the F212's in a stereo set up which was something I did not expect as I did inform him that I would be using the subs for HT mainly. Anyways he did the demo at his home and he was not set up for HT. The F212's are extremely musical subs and they were perfectly integrated with the Dynaudio floorstander. All the music we heard from big band, to jazz, to classic rock to chinese drum was brought alive by the F212's. The subs are very very fast. I just wish I could have heard some HT on them.

In the meanwhile I have also contacted Nathan and he too suggests that in my budget the 18.0SE's would be the way to go...
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JThe F212's are extremely musical subs and they were perfectly integrated with the Dynaudio floorstander. All the music we heard from big band, to jazz, to classic rock to chinese drum was brought alive by the F212's. The subs are very very fast. I just wish I could have heard some HT on them.

Just saying, none of what you listened to is mastered with the expectation of reference level playback.

In my opinion, if one is in it for Home Theater sound, immediately, music becomes a secondary, if not an oblique consideration. Just saying, the crash scene in the Flight of the Phoenix, is not in the same genre as the "Flight of the Bumblebee."

And I might add, today's sound tracks are spec'd for blu-ray or better, playback.

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I totally agree with you beeman. HT is my main consideration and was surprised when the F212's were set up for stereo. Anyways I am in touch with Nathan from Funk Audio who has been very quick and helpful.

Anyone here own the 18.0SE's. would love to hear their impressions on the sub.
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I totally agree with you beeman. HT is my main consideration and was surprised when the F212's were set up for stereo. Anyways I am in touch with Nathan from Funk Audio who has been very quick and helpful.

Anyone here own the 18.0SE's. would love to hear their impressions on the sub.

So here's a really good review on the 18.0, which is the exact same sub minus the fancy curved cabinet.
http://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-reviews/funk-audio-fw18.0-subwoofer

Josh Ricci has the posted measurements on his webpage too.
http://www.data-bass.com/data?page=system&id=96

The TSAD18v1 driver alone is an $850 driver. And that's a $1100 plate amp in it too.
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Just saying, on the same sheet, note the Rythmik FV15HP and how well a single unit keeps up and for the price of a active Funk 18.0, think what a pair of FV15HPs will do.

Funk Audio, FW18.0(120 Volt)...Sing. 18.... 91.4...94.6....98.6...103.4..108.2..114.5..119.4..120.8..121.2..121.2..121.0..121.0

Rythmik Audio, FV15HP(1 port) Sing. 15...............98.5..104.0...108.3..111.7..115.3..117.8..118.0..117.9..117.8..117.6..117.2

We have no room gain in our room and our pair of FV15HPs measures +/-3dB flat to 11.5Hz. Add into the Rythmik measurement above, the synergistic benefit of a second FV15HP and any mechanical advantage the Funk 18.0 has (aesthetics aside) quickly melts away and one has the added benefit of dual sub smoothing for five hundred dollars less. The savings and benefits increases when for room smoothing purposes, one decides to add a third FV15HP.
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The FV15HP distortion figures get quite high if it's pushed to 110 dB, while the Funk's distortion is still reasonable at 120 dB. (See the data-bass Multi-Series Charts.) When comparing subs it's worth considering how clean they play when pushed to their limits.

The Funk also has a PEQ module (AllDSP) that provides additional value since you can EQ it to be flat in your room.
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The FV15HP distortion figures get quite high if it's pushed to 110 dB, while the Funk's distortion is still reasonable at 120 dB. (See the data-bass Multi-Series Charts.) When comparing subs it's worth considering how clean they play when pushed to their limits.

The Funk also has a PEQ module (AllDSP) that provides additional value since you can EQ it to be flat in your room.

The FV15HP has a PEQ feature also. With two FV15HPs, one has the added advantage of being able to EQ two separate room issues.

(our room is 3300^3 that has openings to other large, semi-large spaces)

As to the distortion issue, in my opinion, that's a non-issue as my recommendation is for a pair of FV15HPs and when properly dialed in, one easily has plenty of headroom for distortion free, continuous, reference level playback. And when one compares pricing of two FV15HPs and their combined, dual position output to that of a single Funk 18.0, all of a sudden, in my opinion, the pair of FV15HPs, become a very good value.

As to the 120dB issue, I don't know too many "NORMAL" people who enjoy that level of continuous output. Even full, continuous, 105dB to 115dB, reference level playback is hard to bear.

Just saying, a point that is commonly missed, the 105dB output standard for speakers and 115dB output standard for subwoofers is for peak, not continuous playback. The standard is based on continuous, 85dB speaker playback with +20dB headroom for peak moments and subwoofers are continuous, 95dB subwoofer playback with +20dB headroom for peak moments as the additional +10dB for continuous subwoofer playback is mixed into the sound track at the mixing board level.

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No...no...you're still enigmatic. Or maybe eccentric. Or maybe a bit of both... wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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An enigmatic eccentric....oooh, I like that.

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The FV15HP has a PEQ feature also. With two FV15HPs, one has the added advantage of being able to EQ two separate room issues. (our room is 3300^3 that has openings to other large, semi-large spaces)

As to the distortion issue, in my opinion, that's a non-issue as my recommendation is for a pair of FV15HPs and when properly dialed in, one easily has plenty of headroom for distortion free, continuous, reference level playback. And when one compares pricing of two FV15HPs and their combined, dual position output to that of a single Funk 18.0, all of a sudden, in my opinion, the pair of FV15HPs, become a very good value.

As to the 120dB issue, I don't know too many "NORMAL" people who enjoy that level of continuous output. Even full, continuous, 105dB to 115dB, reference level playback is hard to bear.

Just saying, a point that is commonly missed, the 105dB output standard for speakers and 115dB output standard for subwoofers is for peak, not continuous playback. The standard is based on continuous, 85dB speaker playback with +20dB headroom for peak moments and subwoofers are continuous, 95dB subwoofer playback with +20dB headroom for peak moments as the additional +10dB for continuous subwoofer playback is mixed into the sound track at the mixing board level.

The FV15HP is a nice sub & an excellent value. My recommendation to look into a Funk custom wasn't based on value however. It does cost a bit more when things are hand made. The OP was considering plunking down $7600 for a couple of JL Audio subs. That budget put him well within reach of the dual TSAD custom that I mentioned (~ $6K?). Two 18.0's built in to a single enclosure would offer both knockout looks & performance.

Here's my single 18.0. Imagine a dual variant:


versus the Rythmik:


Different ballparks in the appearance category. That's no knock on the Rythmik since the subs aren't priced the same, but it's something the OP may want to consider.

Regarding performance, data-bass left the default high pass filter in place when they measured the 18.0. Disabling that and configuring a Low Shelf filter can flatten the response of an 18.0 down to mid-single digit territory. AllDSP's 10 band PEQ and the variety of filter types it includes make it very flexible at EQ'ing out difficult room issues, at least for owners with an OmniMic or REW who are willing to try their hand at tweaking.
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The FV15HP distortion figures get quite high if it's pushed to 110 dB, while the Funk's distortion is still reasonable at 120 dB. (See the data-bass Multi-Series Charts.) When comparing subs it's worth considering how clean they play when pushed to their limits.

The Funk also has a PEQ module (AllDSP) that provides additional value since you can EQ it to be flat in your room.

When discussing mechanical comparisons, a rational conversation does not allow for expanding to aesthetics. If a buyer is buying for aesthetics and mechanical performance and has the budget to accommodate a pair of Funk Audio subwoofers, there's no reason not to go there.

(sneaking off to aesthetics as a defense for a fail, does not encourage conversation)

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No doubt, Funk Audio subs are per-ty subs but they're not the end-all-be-all subs, some want to believe. And yes, it ticked me off when in sincerity, I took time to thoughtfully share with you regarding what the benefits of the FV15HPs are when looked at as a pair, and you come back with aesthetics when there was no conversation about aesthetics in the post of yours that I responded to.

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Sorry. Everyone please note that my previous comments regarding aesthetics were totally uncalled for... rolleyes.gif
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Beeman I agree that the Dual Rythmiks make for compelling argument in terms of performance and the value being offered . It is still third on my list. However from all the research I have been doing I seem to be getting more and more lured by the Funk..

I have reached out to Nathan and he seems like a real nice guy who has given me various options to work with.

Just going back a little.. so it seems like a consensus here that I should give the JL F212's a pass.

Anyone have any thoughts on the Seaton's Submersives which have quite a following as well but have not been tested by trusted third parties as yet..

This decision is not easy.. I just wish I had the moolah to buy them all:)smile.gif
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Anyone have any thoughts on the Seaton's Submersives which have quite a following as well but have not been tested by trusted third parties as yet.

LOL! And in truth, I don't think they ever will be.

I was personally promised tests within months. That was back in 2012.

(despite this point, I have nothing but positive feelings toward the owner)

LOL!

One buys Seaton and Funk Audio for beauty and performance. One buys the Rythmik FV15HP for performance. Forgive me, I prefer not to do ego. I'll put our pair of FV15HPs (price/performance) up against any single Seaton or Funk Audio, any day of the week.

Just saying. If I had the money (which I don't) I'd take two beautiful Funk Audio over two FV15HPs, any day of the year.

I am not confused.

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Dear Forum Members,

Need your esteemed and knowledgeable advice on a dilemma I have at present.

I have been meaning to upgrade my current Sub a SVS PC 12 PLUS as I have moved to larger listening space.

I have a budget of USD 5000 set aside for a dual sub configuration.

So was thinking of a pair of SVS PB13 Ultras or the SB13 Ultras. With shipping this would work out to USD 5000 as I live in Dubai and this would be in my budget.
lso was considering Funk Audio, Rythmik, Seaton and RBH.

However I reached out to the local JL Audio delaer here and they have provided me with an astonishing rate of USD 7600 for a pair of JL Audio F212's!!! These are Demo pieces and come with a full warranty. That's essentially a pair of F212's for the price of one.

If I buy the JL's I overshoot my budget by USD 2.5 K. My room is 15ftx16ftx13ft (3000CU)

Are the JL Audio F212's worth it at this price. Also will this be an overkill for my room?

Do i just save the money and go with SVS/Funk/RBH/Rythmik

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Wow, almost every subwoofer you mentioned should be able to place a huge smile on your face in a 3,000 cu. ft. room (I'm not familiar with RBH). Are two an overkill? Perhaps, but two subs would help smooth out the response for multiple seating positions, if that is what you seek. These are high quality subwoofers, but room size, shape and especially location are paramount factors in enjoyment. I auditioned a pair of F212s at a high-end shop and discovered the seating position was located in almost a null area (I got up and walked around to confirm this). It doesn't matter how great the sub is if it isn't located or set up properly.

When talking about these caliber of subwoofers, I would think the main question would be, what happens if something goes wrong with your newly purchased sub? What would it cost to ship back for repairs, or ship back because you were not satisfied? With those subs I wouldn't think you'd have a mechanical problem (or ever be dissatisfied), but it happens, so hope for the best and plan for the worst (as the old saying goes). And while JL Audio equipment is ridiculously expensive, the deal offered brings those over-engineered beasts at least within an arm's length or two. Plus, it's a little reassuring that there is a JL Audio dealer in Dubai. And at 220 lbs. per subwoofer, hopefully they would not only deliver, but help you set them up.

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