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I had a Cambridge SoundWorks P1000 sub in my home theatre (now kids play room).



A nearby lightning strike has rendered it dead, but it had several features that were particularly useful.
- it rattled the room when necessary. (1000w BASH amp)
- it was a light colored enclosure that matches the rest of the furniture. (it wasn't black!)
- it was acoustic suspension that had no "breathing" noise. (Dual drivers!)
- it had two speakers that fired sideways and, when I put it between two IKEA Effektiv units, it was essentially protected.
- it had metal grilles over the speakers, so when my little boy did mess with it (once rolling it halfway across the room) the speakers were protected.
- it was big enough that I could rest my combo DVD/Receiver right on top of it, making for the simplest and cleanest install.

Eventually my little boy got to where he'd leave the receiver alone because he figured out he could use the receiver to play music. He has some kids music CDs and knows how to hit play, and how to turn the big volume knob. Here's hoping the repair shop can get THAT back up and running after the lightning strike messed the receiver up too.

But no one services CSW subs, and CSW is zero help.

So I am on the hunt for a replacement sub and came to settle on this one:
Polk Audio PSW125 12-Inch Powered Subwoofer (Single, Cherry)



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PIAQ3S/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B000PIAQ3S&linkCode=as2&tag=ieba-20

I like it because it's NOT black.
The speaker has a metal grille over it. (confirmed with a call to Polk)
It looks like a 16" cube which should hold my receiver okay.
While ported, the port is downward firing so I hope I don't hear it breathe.
The reviews are quite positive on Amazon, less positive on Polk's web site.
$350 Price is not too bad. I think I paid $599 for my CSW P1000 which retailed for $999.

Before I plunk down my dough, I wanted to ask the group their thoughts and make sure I wasn't missing a better subwoofer for my room.

Thanks!

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You are brave, that's a lot of money to put it into a sub that's going into a room where a one man wrecking crew resides. Not knowing how large your rom is it's hard to say if it will rattle the room or not. I've had Polk subwoofers in the past they tend to be a little boomy but they work well if the room is small enough.

 

I think you could get more sub for your money and save $150 in the process if you look at the BIC F12. But it comes in black.

http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M

 

If cherry is really want you want then you could always look at the Polk PSW110 and save $100. Then down the road when the destroyer gets a little older upgrade to a better sub.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107PSW110C/Polk-Audio-PSW110-Cherry.html

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http://emptek.com/subwoofer.php


comes in a nice cherry finish, very positive reviews from members here on the fourn
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Maybe go with something downfiring so they can't damage the woofer?

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PSA XV15 was my choice when my 2.5 yr old was curious! now he just uses my xs30's as his play table lol

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Have you considered down firing subs ?
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Anthony I would highly recommend Outlaw Audio subs. Either the LFM-1 Plus or LFM-1 EX. They are very good subs and they look nice and they can be used as an end table if you want. They are an all down firing design both the woofer and the ports fire down. Its one of the most kid/pet friendly subs on the market. Plus they both have true sub 20hz extension. I run dual LFM-1 Plus's and I have a 2yr 8mo old daughter and a 9mo old son, and a siberian husky and a cat. If you can swing the price even for the Plus you will be a very very happy man.

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I agree with all the thoughts regarding the down firing subs as the best option. I stayed away from suggesting them because I saw your $350 and didn't think you wanted to up your price. But if you are willing to do so then the subs the guys are mentioning above would be an excellent choice and they would do a much better job of rattling your walls. 

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Down firing sounds like the way to go! HSU would be a good choice.

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Down firing seems to be a popular choice.

My choice would be to teach the "destroyer" not to destroy. rolleyes.gif

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Three year old. Good luck with that.

(three, four subwoofers later, success, the kid finally learned not to destroy the subwoofer driver)
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Three year old. Good luck with that.

(three, four subwoofers later, success, the kid finally learned not to destroy the subwoofer driver)

Good luck? Luck has nothing to do with it. Proper teaching and supervising isn't luck. It's just good parenting. I went through 2 (ages 8 and 12 now) and never had an issue. Why? Because they were taught what was appropriate and were properly supervised.

Jeez! No wonder kids today have no respect for adults or authority when it seems everyone is afraid to tell them no or to GASP actually discipline them. rolleyes.gif
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Guess you are just SuperDad lol.

I have one now and although he knows right from wrong he's a kid.

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Guess you are just SuperDad lol.

I have one now and although he knows right from wrong he's a kid.

If he knows right from wrong AND is properly supervised you won't have a problem with him poking holes in your subs then. smile.gif It's not being "super dad" it's just paying attention and realizing that, yes they are children, so therefore I need to pay attention to what they are doing. It's not hard, though it does take some effort.

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Despite you smiley I find your posts condescending. While he has never destroyed my sub(s) I didn't want to take a chance either. Only takes a split second and bam. Your driver is toast.

But thanks for the advise. Looks like you'll have to deal with my son "not respecting authority and adults" :rollseyes

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Anthony, maybe you could ping daveds50, he's a member here and has been repairing a lot of plate amp with apparent success. If you're happy with the sub, this would be cheaper than buying a new sub.
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Jeez! No wonder kids today have no respect for adults or authority...

That must be it.

(two kids and he's an expert on everybody else's kids)

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Despite you smiley I find your posts condescending. While he has never destroyed my sub(s) I didn't want to take a chance either. Only takes a split second and bam. Your driver is toast.

But thanks for the advise. Looks like you'll have to deal with my son "not respecting authority and adults" :rollseyes

It won't be me having to deal with it. Good luck with that. wink.gif

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That must be it.

(two kids and he's an expert on everybody else's kids)

...rolleyes.gif


And your expertise is what?

Pretending to know it all? Giving off the cuff and irrelevant advice? Adding smiley faces to every passive aggressive insult you give in nearly every thread you post your drivel in?

That must be it. biggrin.gif
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And your expertise is what?

That's an ego question and I don't do ego.

(just saying, you're not a child expert and shouldn't be representing yourself as one)

Congratulations on your child rearing success.

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That's an ego question and I don't do ego.

(just saying, you're not a child expert and shouldn't be representing yourself as one)

(nuff said)

Never said or inferred I was. What I have said is just common sense.

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Good luck? Luck has nothing to do with it. Proper teaching and supervising isn't luck. It's just good parenting. I went through 2 (ages 8 and 12 now) and never had an issue. Why? Because they were taught what was appropriate and were properly supervised.

Jeez! No wonder kids today have no respect for adults or authority when it seems everyone is afraid to tell them no or to GASP actually discipline them. rolleyes.gif

I 100% agree. You can teach your kids anything and that includes respect for property. cool.gif

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In addition to a 2.5 year old child, I have ~$2k tower speakers, a $700 center precariously perched on a console, and a ~$1k sub with a cloth front all in the family room. While my kid has no interest in exploring the speakers, I am definitely afraid of just plain simple accidents. He runs in the room with sticks in his hands; he rides a small bike across the room; he throws various balls; and he just plain trips over his own feet. My point is that even though I don't think he will ever purposefully touch my speakers, they are always in danger of an accident that is just part of a toddlers life. On the other hand, my son never influenced my purchasing decision since we are always in the room with him, so we can always yell at him to move away from the front stage and he listens.

Back on point to the OP...as others have said, if you are really concerned, down firing or metal grill are the way to go.

Oh yeah, in before the lock tongue.gif
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I started catching up on this thread...
Apologies for missing be away for some time but I haven't received any emails that there were comments, despite being "subscribed"
I appreciate the advice offered, but he's pulled my receiver across the floor and tumbled/rolled the subwoofer (mine's basically a cube) so bottom firing doesn't necessarily mean "safe".

Lastly, I'm sorry to see this thread devolve into an off topic discussion on child rearing and then generalizations about "kids today"
That wasn't the point.
No one here knows my situation, or my child's. And those topics are not for this forum.

But you all DO know gobs of information about subwoofers. So let's bring it back to "rugged" subwoofers.

I looked at several of the recommendations and, it seems none of them have covers over the drivers.
So I'm back to the Polk Audio PSW 125.

Actually, since my sub can't be repaired, insurance has to provide for "like service". My CSW Newton P1000 was a $1000 sub. So I think that's around my budget to replace it.
Something with protection for the driver.
I'd greatly prefer NOT black, since there is nothing in this room that is black.
The room is 15x19 x 10' tall. The sides of the ceiling are beveled from 8' walls to the 10' center height, so it's not a totally square box.
I never liked how the controller was separate on my CSW sub, so having controls integrated into the sub seems to be the norm for today, and I like that.

I'll follow links and appreciate images if you can put them in the posts too.

Many thanks!

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Umm, you have a STRONG kid if your 3 year old can roll a 50 pound subwoofer...

I'm not sure there are any subs, outside of PA subs, that can take that kind of abuse.
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The CSW Newton P1000 is not 50 pounds.

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The CSW Newton P1000 is not 50 pounds.

Can someone now suggest a 75lb sub??? rolleyes.gif (For future anti-rolling behaviors! tongue.gif )
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