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My family room is about 30x24x9 cu ft. Panel walls. Open to the foyer on one side - about 8 ft opening. Another opening leading into a passage.
Want to buy a quality subwoofer for < $500 if possible. My listening is 90% music. In fact my TV is not hooked up to my receiver. I probably will end up getting a sound bar and hook it up to the TV. I am not a bass freak. 50% classic rock and 50% classical music.

What brand, size and type of sub should I look at? Willing to look at used subs too.

Eyeing the Hsu STF-2 or VTF2-MK4, - will those be too low powered for my needs?

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That's a HUGE space to fill. Good bass comes from the room being properly pressurized. In a space of your size I really don't see how you are going to be able to do that for under $500 because it will take a powerful subwoofer to be able to fill a space that size. In fact, I think you will need more than one subwoofer. 

 

I also am not sure I would go with a sound bar in that large of an area but that's a discussion for another forum. 

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No Way for 500 bucks , at least to do it right. Sure you can get a single sub and have some sound but not the tactile most are looking for.


I suggest finding a smaller space for your music listening and forget a sub for that room since your not a bass freak.

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You don't need to pressurize a room if music is your goal. A subwoofer with a strong 30-40 up to around 100 Hz may be satisfactory. A Premeire Acoustic PA 150 is a powerful, elegant subwoofer for under $500. I had one in a large space like yours and it was an excellent sub. Two would be even better. A second one can be added down the road. If you want something than can do strong 20 Hz stuff, you have to go way up in price. Most music does not have a lot of bass under 35-40 Hz stuff unless you listen to pipe organs, lol.

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For music look no further than sealed Rythmik Subwoofers
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My family room is about 30x24x9 cu ft. ... Open to the foyer on one side - about 8 ft opening. Another opening leading into a passage.
Want to buy a quality subwoofer for < $500 if possible.
A quality sub for under $500 is the SVS PB-1000 ($499, shipped).
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My listening is 90% music. In fact my TV is not hooked up to my receiver. I probably will end up getting a sound bar and hook it up to the TV. I am not a bass freak. 50% classic rock and 50% classical music.
It's a good thing you're not a bass freak because in an open, 6,500 cu.ft. room, you won't get a freaky amount of bass out of a $500 sub unless:
- you place it nearfield; or
- it's "peaky" and has a lot of mid-bass output (the PA-150 mentioned by derrickdj1 is a good example).
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You don't need to pressurize a room if music is your goal. A subwoofer with a strong 30-40 up to around 100 Hz may be satisfactory. A Premeire Acoustic PA 150 is a powerful, elegant subwoofer for under $500. I had one in a large space like yours and it was an excellent sub. Two would be even better. A second one can be added down the road. If you want something than can do strong 20 Hz stuff, you have to go way up in price. Most music does not have a lot of bass under 35-40 Hz stuff unless you listen to pipe organs, lol.

+1.  Tremendous output 30-80 Hz for music, easily as much if not substantially more than most of the $800 price range home theater subs.


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You don't need to pressurize a room if music is your goal. A subwoofer with a strong 30-40 up to around 100 Hz may be satisfactory. A Premeire Acoustic PA 150 is a powerful, elegant subwoofer for under $500. I had one in a large space like yours and it was an excellent sub. Two would be even better. A second one can be added down the road. If you want something than can do strong 20 Hz stuff, you have to go way up in price. Most music does not have a lot of bass under 35-40 Hz stuff unless you listen to pipe organs, lol.

I will agree with derrickdj1 here. i have pretty much the same size room as OP and my pa150 has tons of output. Sound quality is pretty good too. $350 now and maybe another $350 down the road to get duals will give you pretty nice output in a room that size. Just to be clear a single pa150 is more than enough for my room for music. For HT it definitely lacks the punch in the lower frequencies.
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For music look no further than sealed Rythmik Subwoofers

... that said, Rhythmik subs are pretty amazing for music. I believe they are going to be over your budget for one that can output the levels you want in your room. If i had a bigger budget I would have gotten a rhythmik for my room.

EDIT: i just realized you said you're not a bass head. You might not want the pa150 for your musical preferences. it doesn't have the most linear response of the subwoofers being recommended here. perhaps you can find a used rhythmic for sale?

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I've got a room that size with an STF-2.

Very pleased with it (relative to the PSW10 it replaced). It struggles with low quality compressed music (seems to rumble more on that) but is enough bass for me for movies, music, etc.

If I had more bass my wife wouldn't let me play it loud enough anyway.


I'd say you'd be good buying one and then adding a second one if you felt it was lacking.


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The PA 150 was great with music. I also at one time had an Epik, Klipsch, SVS and another sub all in that same setup. The PA 150 is still one of the best subs that I have used. It is great with Rock!

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SO WHAT IF ITS OVER BUDGET ? Aint that the norm in this forum, you start with a 500 budget and spend 1500 smile.gif
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... that said, Rhythmik subs are pretty amazing for music. I believe they are going to be over your budget for one that can output the levels you want in your room. If i had a bigger budget I would have gotten a rhythmik for my room.
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SO WHAT IF ITS OVER BUDGET ? Aint that the norm in this forum, you start with a 500 budget and spend 1500 smile.gif

so true! i've been down that road before trust me mad.gif

i'm just trying to steer this forum back to sanity!

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BAN HIM !!! smile.gif

For years I wanted a Rythmik F12 KIT . when it came down the actual purchase I got the Rythmik F15 KIT, well it was only a $20 difference, it was a no brainer smile.gif No remorse here until the enclosure was delivered, it was HUGE... good thing I did not go for the Ported Enclosure, that would have been even bigger.


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My family room is 40x20x9 which is about the same volume. I put a SVS PB-1000 in there and there is bass but little pressurization in movies. I'm thinking of upgrading to a SVS PB-12 Plus at least, and even then I have my doubts that it would be enough. A smaller room would be much easier I think.
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I have a room, not as large but close and others are recommending two sub, why not get another PB 1000?
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My family room is 40x20x9 which is about the same volume. I put a SVS PB-1000 in there and there is bass but little pressurization in movies. I'm thinking of upgrading to a SVS PB-12 Plus at least, and even then I have my doubts that it would be enough. A smaller room would be much easier I think.

The direction you decide to go will depend on just how much bass you want. I would contact SVS and tell them what you have and what you want and see what they recommend. Cinemafreak might have a good point about adding more PB-1000s. Then again, perhaps you could just add a PB-12 NSD to the current PB-1000 and run them together. I think I would try that. But no matter what else you do I suggest contacting SVS. 

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My family room is 40x20x9 which is about the same volume. I put a SVS PB-1000 in there and there is bass but little pressurization in movies. I'm thinking of upgrading to a SVS PB-12 Plus at least, and even then I have my doubts that it would be enough. A smaller room would be much easier I think.

That is a 7200 cu ft room!!! Quad PB1000's!!! Honestly that is a super big room you'd need dual PB 13 ultras for a room that size.

you could try dual PB 2000's that just came out. when did you get the PB 1000? if with in a year they will give you 1000% credit
for it towards another sub and a 5% discount for being a return customer.

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A second sub will get up to 3 db more spl. If the two subs are co-located a gain of around 6 db is possible. The real benefit of two subs is to smooth the room response and headroom.

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It's a very large room. Powerful subwoofers would be the only real answer to pressurizing the room. But if he doesn't care about that then he could get away with less. As I said, it will depend how much bass he wants. 

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A second sub will get up to 3 db more spl. If the two subs are co-located a gain of around 6 db is possible. The real benefit of two subs is to smooth the room response and headroom.


I believe you get an average 6dB increase mutually coupled or spread for optimum in room response.  Mutually coupled, you get a roughly exact 6db increase that matches the frequency response of the single sub.  Spread out and placed optimally to smooth in room response, you still average a 6 dB increase, but you will get more than six in some of the valleys, and less than six, or none, in the peaks of the single subs response.  But the average is 6dB regardless.

 

However, the topic of the thread is mostly music, large room < $500.  Op's best option so far is probably the PA150(which you suggested Derrick), which has a boatload more output for music than most home theater subs under $1k.


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The direction you decide to go will depend on just how much bass you want. I would contact SVS and tell them what you have and what you want and see what they recommend. Cinemafreak might have a good point about adding more PB-1000s. Then again, perhaps you could just add a PB-12 NSD to the current PB-1000 and run them together. I think I would try that. But no matter what else you do I suggest contacting SVS.

SVS's suggestions for this room size have included, in order of increasing output: PB-2000, dual PB-12-NSD, PB-12 Plus, dual PB-2000, PB-13 Ultra. The median of these would be a PB-12 Plus.

How much bass do I want, hmm, that's a tricky question since it's hard to imagine or measure. What would it take to sound like IMAX? They appear to use between 12,000 to 36,000 watts, but seating is farther away and the theater's volume is much bigger. My listening distance would be something like 1/4. Two doublings, maybe 1/4 the power needed? So I'd need 4,000 to 9,000 watts to sound like a theater. But is that RMS or peak? If it's peak then that's only about one to two PB-13 Ultras, otherwise that'd be *slightly* impractical from a logistic point of view. Ooh right, you could stack 8 Ultras together, two per corner... does SVS give special discounts for the clinically insane? I'm not sure there is a real cure for tinnitus, but I bet they're somewhat familiar with that demographic...
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That is a 7200 cu ft room!!! Quad PB1000's!!! Honestly that is a super big room you'd need dual PB 13 ultras for a room that size.

you could try dual PB 2000's that just came out. when did you get the PB 1000? if with in a year they will give you 1000% credit
for it towards another sub and a 5% discount for being a return customer.

I live in Canada and here the PB-2000 is a slightly worse deal because the price has been increased due to forex changes, even though other SVS subs have stayed the same price.

Quad PB-1000 vs one PB-13-Ultra, which is better? Former has more RMS power but latter has more peak power. I've read reports that people generally prefer one significantly larger and better sub vs several smaller subs.

I like the idea of going with a good sub first and then adding more as needed. I suspect PB12-Plus is a better value, but the Ultra has a lot power.

This is getting a bit off topic though since the OP is mainly listening to music. Personally I mostly need the extra power for the occasional LFE, and wish to avoid bombarding the neighbors with constant bass.
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Pity about being in Canada. wink.gif If you were State-side, I'd recommend dual Rythmik FV15HPs. As it is, IMO you should consider dual PB12-Plus subs at a minimum. If you think you can (eventually) swing dual PB13-Ultras (one now, one later), that would be the best course of action.

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Or, order up Rythmik FV15HPs, have them sent to a border box and if close, do a day trip and pay the taxes.

Not knowing Canadian taxing practices or the amount of hassle bringing something cross border creates, I can't say if it's time and money well spent. I can say from personal experience, three FV15HPs will rock the joint. We have a pair in a 3300^3 room with openings to large adjacent spaces.
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There's not really any hassle, just taxes to pay at the border. Not sure where shunx lives, but in Ontario the combined provincial and federal tax rate is 13%.

Oh, and there's also the unfavourable exchange to take into account: The Canadian dollar has fallen to ~90¢ USD.
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If easily done, I would encourage buying two FV15HPs. And due to the space being rather cavernous, if looking to reference level capability, I'd suggest looking to a pair of JTR S2's.
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Topic of the thread is music, large space, under $500, not reference level home theater for several thousand.  Another poster changed the topic a few posts back.


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No it's not. Good golly, I wish self-appointed forum police would go jump on their plastic badges.

"Subwoofer recommendation for a 6500 cu ft family room - rock and classical music mostly"

Folks need to put their compulsive behavior (need to control everybody else) under control as there's no mention of budget in the heading.

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The short version, there are absolutely zero $500.00 subwoofers that are going adequately serve a room that size.

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No it's not. Good golly, I wish self-appointed forum police would go jump on their plastic badges.

"Subwoofer recommendation for a 6500 cu ft family room - rock and classical music mostly"

Folks need to put their compulsive behavior (need to control everybody else) under control as there's no mention of budget in the heading.

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The short version, there are absolutely zero $500.00 subwoofers that are going adequately serve a room that size.
I changed it back. I was responding to eljaycanuck. Maybe you should PM the mods or the OP with your concerns.

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I think you need some more antihistamines smile.gif ... I like poetic Bee better than angry Bee wink.gif

Thanks. I like poetic Bee also but some here like to believe they've finished police academy when they wouldn't pass the first evaluation and the last couple of days have become wearisome regarding multiple personalities and their need to control those, not like them.

Just saying, anybody who thinks someone can use a five hundred dollar sub to adequately fill a 6500^3 room with bass sound for music or otherwise, has totally lost it.

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The OP never returned after the original post and it looked like his questions had been addressed as well as they could be until he returned with follow up thus when shunx changed the topic to include his space it seemed like a good idea because it gave us something new to talk about. What's the point of keeping on the topic of a thread for a poster who hasen't come back with feed back, especially since we are discussing his needs and wants. When he comes back and starts talking about his thoughts on what was suggested then we can get back on topic.  

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