Originally Posted by Skytrooper
I can't help you with the price. You said you dealt beyond E Bay. Does that mean you did not use Pay Pal?
Determining the price is very hard for these. I can find them between $1,500 and $1,900 each. Looks like new ones went for $2,500.
Regarding the auction. Here is what had transpired.
I went over the item description very carefully AFTER I had made the deal and paid (the expression "never underestimate your own stupidity" comes to mind!)
The auction description says it is the Signature edition. But details are clearly for the Standard edition (the SPL, the size, etc) So, the seller probably had no idea what he was selling. He just got this deal to sell whatever was in this foreclosed mansion and he pulled the descriptions off the Internet. What complicates things that nowhere on the sub it states which model it is. You have to KNOW that Signature has to say "Signature" on the body and there should be Bob's precious John Doe on it too. I figured this out after reading the manual online and checking out pictures on Google.
So, I email the seller writing "Hey, we have a problem". The Paypal transaction has gone trough a day ago, mind you. He replies back - horrified. Basically, he writes - sorry I had no idea. He offers to refund a couple of hundred or we can simply cancel the sale and he will recall the shipment and the Paypal payment. So, even though we went outside ebay he was still a paragon of integrity. A less scrupulous seller would say "hey , tough luck, next time ask before you buy and especially before you buy outside of ebay!"
Now, here is my dilemma. If I forgo the sale and hunt for a pair Signatures, they will run me a good three or four grand (a pair, I mean). Very hard to find them. I could probably get one Signature for roughly the same $1,600 I paid for this pair, but as I mentioned before my room is an acoustic Bermuda triangle. Having two 2,700W standards placed far apart in different corners will create a better soundstage than one 2,700W Signature. The 116dB SPL would be an overkill for me anyway. Listening at 70% volume makes my ears blead with my current 1,000W HRS-10 (but I have to be sitting on the floor under my desk in a corner to hit that sweet spot!). Another thing is that standards are smaller and in my situation 11 inches is perfect. A 13 inch Signature severely limits my placing choices. So, I replied back with a request for $200 refund. But first I wanted him to check if he still has the Signatures and the standards were shipped by mistake. He said yes, he will tell his people to check (his employees list stuff on ebay and ship them too).
Today he replies back - sorry, these are the only Sunfires he had. One of his guys made the error. I write OK, lets go for the refund. So, the subs are arriving in two days. I got two AudioQuest subwoofer cables for them. Not sure if they will make any difference.