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I am trying to decide between these 2 subs.
Room is 15x12x8. Tile floor. I live in an apt.
80% Music. 20% HT.
Basically looking for the most accurate sub for music but will provide enough output for HT.

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Both would work fine. Some say sealed subs are better for music. Some say the servo controlled rythmiks are great for music, even the ported ones.

I'm biased towards SVS of course but you can't really make a bad choice out of those two. The SVS is $100 more so maybe that is a factor?

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Thats a good comparison, a sealed SVS and a Servo Ported Rythmik..... I wonder if anyone has heard both in the same room at the same time

For music I would include the Rythmik Sealed F12 as an option.
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Thats a good comparison, a sealed SVS and a Servo Ported Rythmik..... I wonder if anyone has heard both in the same room at the same time

For music I would include the Rythmik Sealed F12 as an option.
Thanks. The F12 is $874 so it costs quite a bit more. I can get the LV12r for $569.

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Thanks. The F12 is $874 so it costs quite a bit more. I can get the LV12r for $569.
where can you get the lv12r for 569?

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where can you get the lv12r for 569?
If you buy it from Ascend Acoustics as part of a speaker package you get a 5% discount on the sub.
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what about this... $100 cheaper the the PB-2000 and still very respectable..

http://www.svsound.com/specials/outlet-specials/PB12-NSD#.UvCi_ZB6OGQ
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what about this... $100 cheaper the the PB-2000 and still very respectable..

http://www.svsound.com/specials/outlet-specials/PB12-NSD#.UvCi_ZB6OGQ
I think the LV12r is as good a sub. Maybe a little less output than the PB12 but the LV12r is probably more accurate. Accuracy is my primary consideration. And the LV12r is $130 less.

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Check out Batman's Review of the PB2000, you may want to consider that sub even for music. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1515496/svs-pb-2000-review-now-up

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Check out Batman's Review of the PB2000, you may want to consider that sub even for music. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1515496/svs-pb-2000-review-now-up
Thanks. I've read the entire thread and watched the video. I like the pb2000 but its more than I want to spend. It has more output than the sb2000 but I dont need it. The sb2000 should be more accurate and has the same driver and amp and is $100 less.

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Bond you had BIC speakers right? Are you switching them out for Ascend?

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There is also the HSU VTF3-MK4 at $650. Slightly more than the LV12R but it digs deeper and has some nice tuning options to get the sound you want.

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Bond you had BIC speakers right? Are you switching them out for Ascend?
I had Klipsch with a BIC center. Yes I recently bought 4 CBM 170SE and a 340SE C.

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There is also the HSU VTF3-MK4 at $650. Slightly more than the LV12R but it digs deeper and has some nice tuning options to get the sound you want.
Thanks. That one is also mentioned a lot in this price range. I dont much care for HSU for personal reasons and the VTF3 probably doesnt have the accuracy Im looking for. And its $760 with shipping right now anyway. Far more than Id like to spend.

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How about the outlaw lfm 1 plus? They have the same price with rythmik lv12r 600 shipped. Outlaw still on sale now.

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How about the outlaw lfm 1 plus? They have the same price with rythmik lv12r 600 shipped. Outlaw still on sale now.
Thats a good option Ive considered. I dont know much about Outlaw so I question their quality and customer support. Probably for no good reason. The impression I get is that the LV12 will be very similar in output and extension but be more accurate. Add to that the reputation and CS of Rhythmik and the LV12 seems like a better choice. Also Im saving $30 with the LV. Not much money but its another reason.

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Im a little surprised that other than the Rhythmik F12 which is $874 no one has mentioned another sealed sub. Especially when I stated that music and accuracy are my primary focus.

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That's probably because at the price range you are looking at the SB2000 is the best option. You usually have to go more expensive to get a quality sealed sub with good extension and power.

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Im a little surprised that other than the Rhythmik F12 which is $874 no one has mentioned another sealed sub. Especially when I stated that music and accuracy are my primary focus.

Yeah I would go with the SB-2000. There isn't anything else sealed unless you go with some brick & mortar brand, but then you get a lot less for your money. From looking at the specs, the SB-2000 and LV12R both have similar extension, but the SB-2000 isn't going to falloff so quick, and you get DSP.

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Thanks. I've read the entire thread and watched the video. I like the pb2000 but its more than I want to spend. It has more output than the sb2000 but I dont need it. The sb2000 should be more accurate and has the same driver and amp and is $100 less.

Hey Bond,

Contact SVS and tell them what you have and what you want to achieve. They are great to work with and will give you a great recommendation. I have used them for over a decade and have never had any issues with their products and their CS is very good. They also have great return and upgrade policies. Even if you don't buy from them, they can provide some good insight to help you make your decision. Good luck!
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Hey Bond,

Contact SVS and tell them what you have and what you want to achieve. They are great to work with and will give you a great recommendation. I have used them for over a decade and have never had any issues with their products and their CS is very good. They also have great return and upgrade policies. Even if you don't buy from them, they can provide some good insight to help you make your decision. Good luck!
Thanks Zeus. I Chatted with them yesterday and they recommended the SB-2000.

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Thanks Zeus. I Chatted with them yesterday and they recommended the SB-2000.

I don't think it's fair to compare the SVS SB-2000 to the Rythmik LV12R. I'm sure the SB-2000 is a fine sub, but it's going to leave you wanting more in the output department when it comes time to watch a flick. Also, throw in the fact that it is about $100 more. I personally believe that for <$600 nothing on the market right now can touch the LV12R in it's price range for the output, extension, tuning options and accuracy you are going to get. Bold statement I know smile.gif

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For 80% music the servo in the LV12R will make an audible difference. Nothing wrong with the PB2000 but the Rythmik servo can give you the best of both worlds (using the servo adjustment).
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I don't think it's fair to compare the SVS SB-2000 to the Rythmik LV12R. I'm sure the SB-2000 is a fine sub, but it's going to leave you wanting more in the output department when it comes time to watch a flick. Also, throw in the fact that it is about $100 more. I personally believe that for <$600 nothing on the market right now can touch the LV12R in it's price range for the output, extension, tuning options and accuracy you are going to get. Bold statement I know smile.gif

Above the port tuning of the rythmik the SB2000 will equal if not exceed the output of the LVR-12. But it is $130 more. If the OP is getting everything from Ascend he should take advantage of the discount and get the LVR-12.

But then again the SVS comes with a no risk 45 day in home trial. So....................... tough decision.

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I have a pair of LV12R's. They are a very nice sounding subs. Easy to blend in with my L/R. I recently build two DIY SI18 subs in 4 cf sealed boxes. Still waiting on my amp to show up. Unless the 18's really shine in music I'll keep the LV12R's for music and run the SI18's for HT. Heck...I might even try and figure out how to run all 4 of them!eek.gif
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I got the LV12r. Very happy with it.
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