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I'm getting my first good home audio setup. I've order an Onkyo TX-NR626 with four Energy RC-10's (fronts and surrounds) and an Energy RC-LCR for the center.

What Subwoofer should I get?

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I'm getting my first good home audio setup. I've order an Onkyo TX-NR626 with four RC-10's (fronts and surrounds) and an RC-LCR for the center.

What Subwoofer should I get?

its depends on how much is youre budget sir?

Energy RC 70 fronts
Energy RC LCR center
Energy RC LCR surrounds
Rythmik LV12R and Mirage Omni 12 subwoofers
Denon 2112CI
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its depends on how much is youre budget sir?

Well I could spend money but I'd like to be somewhat frugal. What price range should I be considering give my choice of mains and receiver?
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Really depends more on size of room and expectations more than other components in the system.
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Based on this thread, I'll say a Dayton SUB-1200. smile.gif


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Well I could spend money but I'd like to be somewhat frugal. What price range should I be considering give my choice of mains and receiver?

If you can spend money, I would go with a PB13 Ultra or a Seaton, if you are wanting to be frugal a Rythmik FV15HP or SVS PB12-Plus. If you need duals then SVS PB2000's, small front print SVS SB13 Ultra.

Without more information, recommendations here will be biased like the one I provided above, those are based on what I am willing to spend and my expectations.

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If you can spend money, I would go with a PB13 Ultra or a Seaton, if you are wanting to be frugal a Rythmik FV15HP or SVS PB12-Plus. If you need duals then SVS PB2000's, small front print SVS SB13 Ultra.

Without more information, recommendations here will be biased like the one I provided above, those are based on what I am willing to spend and my expectations.

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Your right. I cannot see spending what those you mention cost.

I'm more inline with the Dayton that eljay recommends which I can get for $150 which includes tax and shipping. I guess really I'd rather not go above $200 which includes shipping and tax.

And the room is 16' w x 20' l , ceiling goes from 8' to 10' on the width, connected to the front door entrance which is roughly 8x8x8.

Also I'd like it to have a small footprint. The Dayton that eljay recommends is definitely max size.

And music is more important than movies.

Will that narrow it down some?

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Your right. I cannot see spending what those you mention cost.

That doesn't mean it is not a good decision to spend more than $200.

I think the Energy RC series is a better class of speaker than the Dayton is a sub. The SUB-1200--while a good value for its price--is the very cheapest sub that anyone would recommend on here for building an HT and music setup. Remember. When you buy a sub you are paying for a really big speaker AND an amplifier. You didn't buy the cheapest speakers you could find, and you didn't buy the cheapest Onkyo receiver, either.

So I own Energy RC speakers, and I speak from experience. Don't cheap out on the last piece of your setup. I would recommend saving up for the SVS PB-1000, even if you have to wait a while to buy it. Good bit more than what you want to spend, but that will give you the quality of bass to match the quality of the rest of your setup. Here's a review: http://www.soundandvision.com/content/review-svs-pb-1000-subwoofer

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That doesn't mean it is not a good decision to spend more than $200.

I think the Energy RC series is a better class of speaker than the Dayton is a sub. The SUB-1200--while a good value for its price--is the very cheapest sub that anyone would recommend on here for building an HT and music setup. Remember. When you buy a sub you are paying for a really big speaker AND an amplifier. You didn't buy the cheapest speakers you could find, and you didn't buy the cheapest Onkyo receiver, either.

So I own Energy RC speakers, and I speak from experience. Don't cheap out on the last piece of your setup. I would recommend saving up for the SVS PB-1000, even if you have to wait a while to buy it. Good bit more than what you want to spend, but that will give you the quality of bass to match the quality of the rest of your setup. Here's a review: http://www.soundandvision.com/content/review-svs-pb-1000-subwoofer

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You guys make a good point that I kind of overlooked. That the subwoofer has its own amplifier and is a bigger speaker. I have spent approximately $701 out the door for the mains at this point as I got them on sale, including the receiver $300 otd. I will definitely consider spending a bit more than I was thinking, just not sure I would spend $500 on a subwoofer.

If I knew what I was looking for maybe I could find a good deal on a used subwoofer off craigslist.

Thanks for your input.

What might you offer for this one? : http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/4310396552.html
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You guys make a good point that I kind of overlooked. That the subwoofer has its own amplifier and is a bigger speaker. I have spent approximately $701 out the door for the mains at this point as I got them on sale, including the receiver $300 otd. I will definitely consider spending a bit more than I was thinking, just not sure I would spend $500 on a subwoofer.

If I knew what I was looking for maybe I could find a good deal on a used subwoofer off craigslist.

Thanks for your input.

What might you offer for this one? : http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ele/4310396552.html
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That sub would be a nice match with your set up and a major step up from the Dayton. Offer $450 and if accepted buy it.
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That sub would be a nice match with your set up and a major step up from the Dayton. Offer $450 and if accepted buy it.

Definitely. Even at the asking price, still a great deal (And I wouldn't be surprised if the seller won't come down). Awesome sub that will do your RC setup justice! biggrin.gif

Incidentally, SVS has a 5 year warranty. Don't know if it's transferable, but if it is, no risk if there's years left on it.

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Definitely. Even at the asking price, still a great deal (And I wouldn't be surprised if the seller won't come down). Awesome sub that will do your RC setup justice! biggrin.gif

Incidentally, SVS has a 5 year warranty. Don't know if it's transferable, but if it is, no risk if there's years left on it.

Warranty is transferable
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Dude, I was in the same boat you are in when I first started looking at subs for my speakers. I didn't want to spend more than $300 tops. Luckily, I started doing my research like you are now instead of making an impulse buy; reading these forums and asking the same questions. I soon realized that $300 wasn't going to buy me much and it would have been $300 of disappointment. I decided to wait a little longer and go for the SVS PB-1000. And while the sound was great and it dug down low, it didn't have the output I wanted so I sent it back and got a PC12-NSD instead. I was very happy with my decision and did not feel that I 'spent too much' on the sub after hearing it...it makes that much of a difference! Plus, I was lucky to go with SVS and send back the PB-1000 at their cost and pick up the NSD instead.

So bottom line, it does not make any sense at all to go 'bottom of the barrel' for a sub with those speakers and AVR. A good sub makes ALL the difference in your HT. It is such a crucial piece of equipment Wait a little bit longer, save your money, do more research, and get a PB-1000 at the minimum! Currently, I'm using SVS upgrade policy to go for either a PC12+ or dual SB-2000's. The sub-bug will get you...be warned lol
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Well I tried hard to get that SVS and would have bought it for $450 but the guy never responded back and when he did he said that he was busy Sunday, and then got back and said he had a friend that sold it for him on Sunday rolleyes.gif
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Check for people selling their used PB/PC12-NSD's and or PB-1000's. With the new PB-2000 out now you might be able to find a seller. I would feel very good about getting a used SVS sub too. The limiter on them will not allow you to push the amp too hard and wear the life out like on some other subs. Plus, the 5-year warranty will carry over.
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I'll say a Dayton SUB-1200. smile.gif

Decided to go with the Dayton. Thanks for the recommendation. I read up here and it seems users like it. Should be good for starters. I'll keep my eyes out for a deal on something better down the road.
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