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Hello,

 

I'm looking for a sub to compliment, not overpower, my new stereo system. 

 

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I am looking for something under $500 (new/used/refurbished).  The main uses for the system are Music/Movies (80/20) so a very musical sub is preferable.  I plan to start out with one sub and work my way up to a second sub (eventually replacing my receiver).  I would definitely like an active sub to cut down on price and wiring as the space I have for components is limited.

 

The room I will use it in is about 250 sq ft opening up to a kitchen (100 sqft) in an apartment building. Floor and ceiling are concrete, walls are drywall and brick.

 

Preferably I would like to buy a sub from a company where I can make monthly payment rather than all at once.  Any input is greatly appreciated!

 

Thank you for your time,

 

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Preferably I would like to buy a sub from a company where I can make monthly payment rather than all at once.

We call that a credit card. cool.gif
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... SVS also supports PayPal’s Bill Me Later (which offers 6 months same as cash financing for any orders over $99).
If that works for you, get the SVS SB-1000 or PB-1000 ($499 for either one, shipped).

SVS offers free return shipping within 45 days, so if you try it and don't like it, return it and the in-home demo costs you $0.
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SVS sb-1000 get recommended a lot for your situation.
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SVS sb-1000 get recommended a lot for your situation.

I saw that and am very interested in SVS but did not know that they had a payment plan...sounds dangerous.  ;)

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Also, for my apartment what would be benefits/drawbacks of pb vs sb?


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Also, for my apartment what would be benefits/drawbacks of pb vs sb?

Ported will play louder. Your room isn't huge so either will be loud enough to piss off your neighbors. smile.gif
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Ported will play louder. Your room isn't huge so either will be loud enough to piss off your neighbors. smile.gif

I am less worried about broadcasting brown notes (Southpark anybody?) across my entire apartment complex and more worried about crisp, unmuddled bass support. 


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I am less worried about broadcasting brown notes (Southpark anybody?) across my entire apartment complex and more worried about crisp, unmuddled bass support. 

The SB-1000 probably would be a touch more defining with bass notes, but the PB-1000 also has the advantage of lower extension, a plus for movie watching. And if you like your bass very loud (if you consider yourself a bass head), then I think you should definitely lean more toward the PB-1000. Dual SB-1000s would do fine in a the space you describe for the average listener, but a bass head might need the good bit extra output of the PB-1000s.

So how much of a bass head are you? biggrin.gif
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The SB-1000 probably would be a touch more defining with bass notes, but the PB-1000 also has the advantage of lower extension, a plus for movie watching. And if you like your bass very loud (if you consider yourself a bass head), then I think you should definitely lean more toward the PB-1000. Dual SB-1000s would do fine in a the space you describe for the average listener, but a bass head might need the good bit extra output of the PB-1000s.

So how much of a bass head are you? biggrin.gif

Good points by cel145. Once you answer his question then you have the answer to which sub to choose. :)

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I am less worried about broadcasting brown notes (Southpark anybody?) across my entire apartment complex and more worried about crisp, unmuddled bass support. 

Okay, you made me laugh...I haven't thought about that episode of Southpark in a long time.
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The SB-1000 probably would be a touch more defining with bass notes, but the PB-1000 also has the advantage of lower extension, a plus for movie watching. And if you like your bass very loud (if you consider yourself a bass head), then I think you should definitely lean more toward the PB-1000. Dual SB-1000s would do fine in a the space you describe for the average listener, but a bass head might need the good bit extra output of the PB-1000s.

So how much of a bass head are you? biggrin.gif

I'm a part-time bass head I suppose.  Watching action/kung fu...bass.  Listening to crappy party music...bass.  

 

 

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Okay, you made me laugh...I haven't thought about that episode of Southpark in a long time.
 

Everything else I listen to I just want to hear the bass, not have uncontrollable bass-induced bowel movements.  Thanks for the help everybody.  I think I'm leaning towards ported subs to get the bass I want for the next year before I buy a second sub...then I can turn the volume control down a little bit.  :) 


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Save up $375 and buy the HSU STF-1.  This includes shipping.  If you have to finance a subwoofer, it means you can't afford it.  I am not aware of any companies that offer financing.  Pretend credit cards are like herpes....you can get them, but do you really want to?


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Save up $375 and buy the HSU STF-1.  This includes shipping.  If you have to finance a subwoofer, it means you can't afford it.  I am not aware of any companies that offer financing.  Pretend credit cards are like herpes....you can get them, but do you really want to?

 

Lame sauce.  I will not use a credit card because I pay that off monthly (who the hell wants 19.99% interest?!).  I am financing because I'd rather not pay it off all at once though I could conceivably afford to buy 2 subs right now.  Also, I do not want a sub that I will want to replace within a year.  Why would I have a pair of $1500 speakers and a sub-par subwoofer?  It would present a bottleneck that I would want to solve as soon as possible.  I think I'm going to stick with the PB1000s even though that PB12 at $700 is calling my name.  ;)

 

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I'm a part-time bass head I suppose.  Watching action/kung fu...bass.  Listening to crappy party music...bass.  

Then the PB-1000 is the way to go. It'll be fun for watching the four to five star movies on this list. And you'll be able to host your own parties with good, loud "crappy party music". (lol)

And you should be impressed by it. You'd have to spend $1000 or more MSRP at BestBuy to get a sub of comparable quality. The SVS subs are THAT good smile.gif
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Then the PB-1000 is the way to go. It'll be fun for watching the four to five star movies on this list. And you'll be able to host your own parties with good, loud "crappy party music". (lol)

And you should be impressed by it. You'd have to spend $1000 or more MSRP at BestBuy to get a sub of comparable quality. The SVS subs are THAT good smile.gif

Thanks for the movie list!  I'll probably watch Tron when I get my sub...best bass-heavy soundtrack on the list!   PB-1000s here I come!

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You'd have to spend $2000 or more MSRP at BestBuy to get a sub of comparable quality. The SVS subs are THAT good smile.gif

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You know what?  Before I dig in and buy PB1000s I'm going to audition some ReactionAudio subs.  They have introductory pricing right now and 30 day auditions. $700 for two 12" 200 watt RMS subs.  Or I might try one of the Turbo 12" subs. They look nice too.  http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/


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You know what?  Before I dig in and buy PB1000s I'm going to audition some ReactionAudio subs.  They have introductory pricing right now and 30 day auditions. $700 for two 12" 200 watt RMS subs.  Or I might try one of the Turbo 12" subs. They look nice too.  http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/

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You know what?  Before I dig in and buy PB1000s I'm going to audition some ReactionAudio subs.  They have introductory pricing right now and 30 day auditions. $700 for two 12" 200 watt RMS subs.  Or I might try one of the Turbo 12" subs. They look nice too.  http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/

Dual dual 12" subs might be a pretty sweet option for your room.  If you go that route be sure to keep us informed.


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Any mfg that uses the word "turbo" to describe their subwoofer, probably should be avoided. cool.gifsmile.gif

I was talking to the owner of the company the other day ( a long-time avs forum-goer) and the Turbo model is named as such because they already had a 12" model and the "Turbo" came very shortly after.  They were only planning on releasing one 12" model and one 15" model to start with but the company that supplies the 15" driver told him to try out their 12" as well and they thought it would be a good middle model.   :)

 

Either way...free 30-day audition...can't lose!

 

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Dual dual 12" subs might be a pretty sweet option for your room.  If you go that route be sure to keep us informed.

 

 

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Either way...free 30-day audition...can't lose!

 

 

Don't forget -- SVS offers a 45 day audition.    I have the SB-1000 and I'm very happy with it.  In a smallish room it fills in, more than thumps.  Exactly what I was looking for.


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I was talking to the owner of the company the other day ( a long-time avs forum-goer) and the Turbo model is named as such because they already had a 12" model and the "Turbo" came very shortly after.  They were only planning on releasing one 12" model and one 15" model to start with but the company that supplies the 15" driver told him to try out their 12" as well and they thought it would be a good middle model.   smile.gif

Either way...free 30-day audition...can't lose!


I will definitely post here no matter what I decide upon.
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Definitely curious to hear ANYONE's impressions of the Reaction subs smile.gif

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Definitely curious to hear ANYONE's impressions of the Reaction subs smile.gif

No doubt, looking forward to hearing what people have to say. 

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Either way...free 30-day audition...can't lose!

Well, the customer would have to pay return shipping, which I suspect wouldn't be cheap for 60 lb subwoofers. But I think that's a perfectly fair policy. I think SVS and Aperion are a couple of the few companies (ID or not) to offer free shipping both ways, even if there is nothing defective. I don't know how they're able to afford the costs of that type of service, quite frankly, but evidently it's worked for them.

I'm seriously considering dual turbos and I think eventually I'll give in and take the deal. The price, specs and form factor are very attractive. And Jeremy seems pretty knowledgeable and enthusiastic about what he's doing. He takes a lot of time and effort responding to e-mails about what he had in mind with his subs.
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You guys don't like Hsu? You guys better play it real safe, though, don't buy anything with the word "turbo" attached rolleyes.gif Definitely stay away from cars with that word, especially Porsche Turbos, they're no good at all....
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You guys don't like Hsu? You guys better play it real safe, though, don't buy anything with the word "turbo" attached rolleyes.gif Definitely stay away from cars with that word, especially Porsche Turbos, they're no good at all....

Kind of funny that you said that: HSU VTF-3 HO Subwoofer with Turbocharger wink.gif

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You guys don't like Hsu? You guys better play it real safe, though, don't buy anything with the word "turbo" attached rolleyes.gif Definitely stay away from cars with that word, especially Porsche Turbos, they're no good at all....

Kind of funny that you said that: HSU VTF-3 HO Subwoofer with Turbocharger wink.gif

Here's a review.

Think they had more than one model with turbo in the name....pretty well respected subs IIRC.

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