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http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=24534886

Also, Radio Shack has a 20 off 125/free shipping RMNFEB14

Thanks mostly to Jims review, http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/67178-nxg-nx-bas-500-subwoofer-review.html , they've been out of stock since 10/13.

•12” high-excursion, forward-firing woofer with rose-gold injection-molded metallic-anodized cone and Polymeric surround

•Frequency Response: 18—120Hz

•Variable Crossover adjustable from 40—120Hz - 0° and 180° Phase Control Switch

Model NX-BAS-500
Product Type Home speakers
Enclosure Color Black
Speaker type Subwoofers
Speakers included 1
Woofer size 12 inches
Woofer type Forward-firing woofer with metallic-anodized cone
Woofer surround Polymeric
Powered sub Yes
Connectivity technology Wired
Performance Features
RMS (continuous) power 500 watts
Frequency response 18-120Hz

$259.99 +sales tax
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http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=24534886

Also, Radio Shack has a 20 off 125/free shipping RMNFEB14

Thanks mostly to Jims review, http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/67178-nxg-nx-bas-500-subwoofer-review.html , they've been out of stock since 10/13.

•12” high-excursion, forward-firing woofer with rose-gold injection-molded metallic-anodized cone and Polymeric surround

•Frequency Response: 18—120Hz

•Variable Crossover adjustable from 40—120Hz - 0° and 180° Phase Control Switch

Model NX-BAS-500
Product Type Home speakers
Enclosure Color Black
Speaker type Subwoofers
Speakers included 1
Woofer size 12 inches
Woofer type Forward-firing woofer with metallic-anodized cone
Woofer surround Polymeric
Powered sub Yes
Connectivity technology Wired
Performance Features
RMS (continuous) power 500 watts
Frequency response 18-120Hz

$259.99 +sales tax

Provantage has it for $195 + shipping.

Just picked one up myself for that price: http://www.provantage.com/nxg-technology-nx-bas-500~7NXGT0A9.htm
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For me that vendor comes to $221.85. I paid 256.89 after 20 off +16.90 sales tax. Which comes to about 35 clams more. I called to cancel & they said 50/50 shot of that happening. The dealio is back in 10/13 my order was cancelled and Radio Shack took 28.5 hrs to inform me. If the cancel goes through I'll order from Provantage. I didn't have much time this morning as I needed to be at the doc's office for some blood work. Shouldn't have gotten in such a hurry I suppose.

ETA: Thanks for the link. If the shack cancels I'll pick one up through them. Twenty bucks on price and no sales tax is around 11 gallons of 93 octane.
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There may be warranty issue cause Provantage is not an authorized dealer.

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There is something to be said about authorized dealers. However, Radio Shack sells these as a third party vendor, though they charge state sales tax, and should an issue arise I'd have to ship the sub out of state at my expense. As opposed to having one of my local shacks handling the issue sans shipping. On the other hand I ordered a Y adapter and a RCA cable w/o shipping as that was included in the same order.

I note Proadvanyage listed 44 in stock and that number remains the same, so they aren't exactly flying off the shelves. They also provide faint information save the model number w/very basic of descriptions. I wondered if this was an outlet of returns, for whatever reasons, that apparently functioned. I don't know how they ended up w/these, nor intend to cast aspersions. They claim 100% satisfaction, list no warranty claim that I can find, and provide a link-less addy for NXG technology website.

As far as the shack is concerned a two year warranty in this price range seems more than sufficient. As well I'd rather be able to ship at my expense, 1-2 years down the road, than not should the amp crapout on me. I presume this second round/reload is the same sub. I'm going to integrate it w/my oddball speaker arrangement that includes one F-10 Klipsch wired as a center and a SVS SB-1000. Right now the mains are set at 100 w/SB going up to 120 for a little crossover boost.

A couple of things in particular that I found interesting about Jim's review was the sensitivity of the auto on function and the Hz setting. "... it doesn't come out of standby easily enough, and it goes back into it too quickly. For most of the review I had to use On instead of Auto because it kept going in and out too frequently. Very annoying. I also found 60Hz a better crossover setting than my normal 80Hz because some male voices would occasionally come across as a bit thick on the higher setting."

I'm going to try and use the auto on as a gauge of sorts betwixt various CD and FM/CD. As it stands w/current setting I need a -49 to bring the SB out of standby on my FM jazz station. I'll try the NXG at 60 Hz and see how that flies. Though I rarely watch movies, don't incorporate the LFE, perhaps this ported sub w/500 watt dynamic/(continuous) power will find a role if nothing else as a movie anchor.

ETA: The Klipsch F-30, Def Tec BP-8 to a much less degree if any, overshadow the sealed sub in movie mode. Three hundred watts sealed within this spacious surrounding just doesn't have the legs to keep up w/4-8" woofers. That's not a bad thing as I currently do not use any of the speakers to watch movies. I have a spare F-10 being used as half of a stand. Maybe I could combine it, w/small amp, and the ported NXG as full-time telly/cinema sound.

Speaking of an amp what's the odds, warranty notwithstanding, that the sub's amp is 8 or 4 ohms? If so wouldn't I be able to splice one or both of the F-10 w/NXG as the TV audio package? I'm happy enough w/music end as it is now though it wouldn't be a loss to lose the single F-10 masquerading as a center, then combined in parallel w/other F-10, if the sub amp was 4 ohm. I'm sure it might not be practical as I can see a potential to separately adjust volume of F-10 compared to the sub. The single 6" woofer w/horn of each F-10 certainly doesn't require much power and that would be far better than the OEM speaker.
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Mine is expected to arrive next Thursday. I'm curious to see how it stacks up to the other subs you have listed in your setup. Please post impressions when you get the chance.
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The only other sub is the SVS SB-1000 and I can't hardly compare it against a ported sub though they will probably be close in watts. I'll go ahead hook it up w/splitter and see how it sounds as it breaks in, but I'd really prefer to use it w/TV. I'm using HDMI for the DVD though I've still a couple of component jacks that could feed the sub. Which should work out well for a wall of sound guy that isn't a HT/surround sound fella. We'll see what shakes.
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Thanks mostly to Jims review, http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/67178-nxg-nx-bas-500-subwoofer-review.html , they've been out of stock since 10/13.

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Didn't they pay off advertising/promotional royalty to the tune of a nickel a unit?

ETA: Mine is due in from Kaliforneye-eh the 26th. My attempt to cancel must have lit a fire under them as I received email Friday that mine was being shipped UPS. It still wasn't showing on their website and further contact to customer service reveals they 86'd then for Fed--Ex.
Still, it kind of sticks in my craw as after i originally ordered 10/13 & they billed my CC they get back w/me 28.5 hrs later saying they're out of stock.

Translation: You used a coupon and are halfway across the states, so we found someone that attempted purchase after you that didn't use a coupon and was closer on the free shipping since we were running out of stock anyway.
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hi Jim, what do you think 2 NXG NX-BAS-500 compare to one LV12R? does the 2 NXG NX-BAS-500 outperform the one LV12R? interms on watching blurays movies. thanks

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Didn't they pay off advertising/promotional royalty to the tune of a nickel a unit?

Paid to me? Absolutely not! I have never been given a single dime of remuneration by any company at any time. HTS pays me for the review, not the manufacturers. None of them have even offered to do that because it's simply not how things are done. I have never encounter another reviewer who gets paid by the manufacturer either, so if any of them are getting something on the side they certainly hide it well.

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hi Jim, what do you think 2 NXG NX-BAS-500 compare to one LV12R? does the 2 NXG NX-BAS-500 outperform the one LV12R? interms on watching blurays movies. thanks

If co-located, the total output of the NXG's would eclipse what a single LV12R is capable of. The depth and SQ of the latter would still prevail though. The NXG pair would also enable you -- with proper placement -- to even out room nulls, which can be advantageous in certain situations.

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Paid to me? Absolutely not! I have never been given a single dime of remuneration by any company at any time. HTS pays me for the review, not the manufacturers. None of them have even offered to do that because it's simply not how things are done. I have never encounter another reviewer who gets paid by the manufacturer either, so if any of them are getting something on the side they certainly hide it well.


I thought Audioholics was paid by the manufacturer to review subs due to the extensive and costly nature of their subwoofer testing?  This is the data posted on Data-Bass by Josh Ricci, I believe.


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I thought Audioholics was paid by the manufacturer to review subs due to the extensive and costly nature of their subwoofer testing? 
Manufacturers submit gear for reviews because it's free advertising. If the gear is relatively inexpensive, a couple of hundred or less, often the manufacturer will give the gear to the reviewer, but that's the extent of remuneration.
The actual objective data collection by Audioholics can be done in less than an hour. The time spent in subjective testing by watching a move or two the reviewer probably would have done anyway.
If you're Kal Rubinson you get paid a fair amount for a review. But most reviewers get paid little, if anything.

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I thought Audioholics was paid by the manufacturer to review subs due to the extensive and costly nature of their subwoofer testing?  This is the data posted on Data-Bass by Josh Ricci, I believe.

Josh has an 'analysis fee' he charges the manufacturer to compensate him for the amount of time spent doing the objective portion of his testing, which for the outdoor measurements and the writeup constitutes several hours. His case is somewhat unique though because of the elaborate nature of his evaluations, and the sheer number of requests he gets (Josh and I had an email exchange about this very thing approximately 2 years ago, and no I'm not going to divulge what he charges). All the rest of us -- at least everyone I've spoken with -- gets paid for the review by the outlet that publishes it.

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Easy Jim as it was merely a pun on my part. A little tongue-in-cheek humour not meant to be taken at face value. You had joked previously, though it's been a few months ago, in the same vein.
Anywho, just for sheets n grins.

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So, moving along & my apologies for the unwittingly implied misunderstanding, I'm looking forward to the little ported sub. Also, I'm hoping to use the short cycle auto-on as a Hz gauge of sorts. One of the issues I perceived w/SB-1000 is the coming out of standby lasts a good fifteen minutes, 16:50, w/o additional signal. In order to bring it out of standby on FM at low volume I had to boost the sub on the AVR. Of course differing stations have varying broadcast power. A station that I listen to very little, that's easily 50 miles away, will fire up auto on in a heartbeat. Whilst the college station half the distance, playing syndicated Bob Parlocha evenings/early AM, requires a little massaging.

I was at +3db on the sub and have since dropped that 0 only to settle on +1. Where once it would light up at -52 it usually takes -49 though the other evening I left it on -50, on the station I generally listen, and it came on eventually. I like the idea of a much shorter auto-on window. For starters during the break-in I'm going to set the C/O at 120 the same as the SB in the corner. Except the ported will be nine feet away from it and five feet closer to me albeit w/o the corner boost.

Although reviewed as a shaker that wouldn't allow loose material to remain on top I'm confident that several CD on the poop deck will remain as long as they are buffered as is by one of the F-30 towers weighing in at sixty lbs. I've been looking for a foot n-half stand for a while anyway as it's the last speaker floor bound. I'm also a wee bit curious how close the two subs will be calibrated to the Hz setting. After a while I'll try crossing the ported at 60.

I also wish to note that I went back to the Pro site and saw that indeed they also had a link to NXG along w/addy posted. I missed that earlier.
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I like the NXG-500 a lot. If I had the room I might have two instead of being paired w/SVS SB-1000. Practically never watching Blu-ray and hardly any plain Jane DVD I can only comment on jazz/big band/crooners at moderate to spirited levels. The little SVS works on the small table shoved into the corner that wouldn't accommodate much larger. I could detect a ticking noise in the NXG that sounded quite similar to a skip in a record. This happened as the sub had yet to auto power on almost in a sonar/pinging seeking mode. I could only detect this due to low volume.

It also required about 7db more gain to auto-power on over the SVS. For a while that was nice as I could listen to Mainstream Jazz on FM at night w/o powering up the NXG. Especially w/SVS being close at my feet. However the 7db differential proved to be too much during the daytime. I rarely play the music loud, yet was being forced into that corner. I ended up leaving the amp powered up all the time. If I could've fine tuned to a 3 or even 4db difference it would've been handy. I haven't checked lately it might have bridged the gap a mite over time.

The performance per price is high & I would heartily recommend a pair for budget bass.
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Looks like it's out of stock I'm considering selling mine and getting the outlaw or rythmic

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Looks like it's out of stock I'm considering selling mine and getting the outlaw or rythmic

Better hurry if the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus. I think it's only on sale through the end of the month.

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