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So, I advertised my two Empire subs on Craigslist and was amazed at the interest expressed - I promised them to the first responder for $700.00 for both of them. I was surprised at the comments that I should have charged more and even had a couple of folks offer me over a 1K but a promise is a promise. I admit that they were wonderful in my HT setup but I did have to replace one of the amps after six months (thanks Chad). Once I learned that Epik was kaput I just could not rationalize holding on to a product that was such an important part of my private enjoyment that had the very real potential of needing service that was no longer easily available "If it ain't broke, fix it" I guess - lol. Frankly, I was happy to get ANY money for them. Anyway my two SVS Ultra PB13s will be delivered today - Thanks Epik, for showing me what a difference having serious LFE can make - good luck to Chad and Karen Kuypers.smile.gif
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Nice! The PB13 Ultras should be great. Though I hear that the Empires were quite the beast from 30hz up. Be sure to come back and give us your opinion on the Ultras.
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Will do. They were delivered yesterday afternoon and so far, I have one out of the box - I kept hearing how heavy they were - but wow! eek.gif
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Will do. They were delivered yesterday afternoon and so far, I have one out of the box - I kept hearing how heavy they were - but wow! eek.gif

Oh yeah!
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Selling 2 working empires for $700 because epik is no longer seems kind of panicky to me. The empires aren't failure prone like the legends are.

It's your money and if it makes you happy so be it.
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Were you able to dial in the Ultras? Any early impressions?

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Well, my SPL Meter apparently has ceased to function so being an impatient new owner I did the best I could with a conservative "by ear" calibration and watched "Gravity" and these two SVS Ultras are spectacular. I whipped out to Radio Shack and got a new SPL Meter - can't believe they charge 50 clams for what looks like $1.75 of plastic junk - but I am looking forward to calibrating them this weekend.
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Wow, sweet looking setup Hair.  Those towers look amazing...what are they?


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Wow, sweet looking setup Hair.  Those towers look amazing...what are they?

Looks like the Polk RTI A9.
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Looks like the Polk RTI A9.

Yep they are RTI-A9's.
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Very nice! This makes me antsy to pull the trigger on a second FV15HP, but I have to hold that thought for a little while. Patience is a vurtue they say. smile.gif

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How do those ultra's match up to those polks and how are you liking the subs Hair? I'm building my theater and have 3 RTI-A9s as fronts and am thinking about getting the cylinder ultras.
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How do those ultra's match up to those polks and how are you liking the subs Hair? I'm building my theater and have 3 RTI-A9s as fronts and am thinking about getting the cylinder ultras.

I apologize in advance, but I am not trying to hi-jack the OP's thread. Rock, how are you able to manage your setup in such a way to be able to have a big speaker like the RTI-A9 as a center? I am very curious because I would love to be able to do that in the near future. It seems to me, however, that the only to accomplish that is with a projector and acoustically transparent screen.
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Hair.....very nice system! Can you give me details on the piece of furniture you have your components in?

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I am guessing screen is high enough to clear the center channel.
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I apologize in advance, but I am not trying to hi-jack the OP's thread. Rock, how are you able to manage your setup in such a way to be able to have a big speaker like the RTI-A9 as a center? I am very curious because I would love to be able to do that in the near future. It seems to me, however, that the only to accomplish that is with a projector and acoustically transparent screen.
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Everyone is correct - Polk RTi-A9s all around - with the equivalent center speaker. That rack is nothing special, just what the local HiFi shop had on hand a couple of years ago. I have a crazy busy job and only get to sit down in the HT Room on weekends - so enjoyable isn't it? Rock on people!
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Still dialing those puppies in but initial impression is A W E S O M E ! ! !
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I apologize in advance, but I am not trying to hi-jack the OP's thread. Rock, how are you able to manage your setup in such a way to be able to have a big speaker like the RTI-A9 as a center? I am very curious because I would love to be able to do that in the near future. It seems to me, however, that the only to accomplish that is with a projector and acoustically transparent screen.

I just have my center speaker right in front of my 20inch tv! Just kidding. Your right, I'm building an acoustically transparent screen in a dedicated theater. I love those polks and after reading all 340 make that 341 pages of the Ultra thread, I'm all but sold on the cylinder ultras behind the screen. I may have missed it, but I think the OP is the only one I've seen with those speakers and those subs so I'd love to get your impressions Hair.

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Still dialing those puppies in but initial impression is A W E S O M E ! ! !

Very cool. I've been battling a severe case of upgradeitis. I have an Empire which has severed me well, but I wondering what other alternatives would be like. Am considering the SB13-U, possibly duals.

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I have an Empire also and would like dual subs, but obv can't get another Empire. How would an Ultra and the Empire sound as duals? Should I go with the sealed Ultra or just sell the Empire and get duals of the same sub?
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I have an Empire also and would like dual subs, but obv can't get another Empire. How would an Ultra and the Empire sound as duals? Should I go with the sealed Ultra or just sell the Empire and get duals of the same sub?

You could always get a Reaction Audio BPS-15 for $879 delivered. It should match up quite will with your existing Empire.

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Very cool. I've been battling a severe case of upgradeitis. I have an Empire which has severed me well, but I wondering what other alternatives would be like. Am considering the SB13-U, possibly duals.

PSA XS30...read this thread.

http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=148614&st=100
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PSA XS30...read this thread.

http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=148614&st=100

Thanks for the link, basshead. A very interesting read. I'm always nicely surprised by how well my XS30 performs with movie LFE and consider it an excellent value sub.

BTW, since this is sort of an Ultra thread, I love my SB13-Ultra and prefer it for music over the XS30 (prefer the XS30 for movies).
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So, getting back to you on my impressions now that I have been living with these puppies for a while now. Of course, they are fantastic. After having the Empires for over three years the biggest difference is the sense of refinement from the Ultras. I could always count on the Empires to do the job when it was obvious but the Ultras have an understated and consistent presence beyond shaking the room when the bomb explodes. I am very impressed and satisfied with the decision to buy them. I had five guys from work get them upstairs to the third floor of my house but my back is just now recovering from moving these monsters around setting them up. It is amazing to me that a single 13 and half inch driver can do so much but I guess that's where the engineering and design dollars go. I was initially concerned that the piano black finish would be too reflective of ambient light but, turned out to be a non issue. And, like I was with the Empires when I first got them, now I tend to only want to watch movies with significant LFE - lol - it's so enjoyable.
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So, getting back to you on my impressions now that I have been living with these puppies for a while now. Of course, they are fantastic. After having the Empires for over three years the biggest difference is the sense of refinement from the Ultras. I could always count on the Empires to do the job when it was obvious but the Ultras have an understated and consistent presence beyond shaking the room when the bomb explodes. I am very impressed and satisfied with the decision to buy them. I had five guys from work get them upstairs to the third floor of my house but my back is just now recovering from moving these monsters around setting them up. It is amazing to me that a single 13 and half inch driver can do so much but I guess that's where the engineering and design dollars go. I was initially concerned that the piano black finish would be too reflective of ambient light but, turned out to be a non issue. And, like I was with the Empires when I first got them, now I tend to only want to watch movies with significant LFE - lol - it's so enjoyable.

Glad you like your Ultras, Hairsonfire.... pretty much the same audible experience I had after I got my pair of Ultras. Funny you mentioned 5 guys hauling those behemoths 3 floors. I did it with the help of my "petitte", 5'1" wife and my trusty dolly. It was brutal getting them upstairs, but we did it. smile.gif

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Well, my SPL Meter apparently has ceased to function so being an impatient new owner I did the best I could with a conservative "by ear" calibration and watched "Gravity" and these two SVS Ultras are spectacular. I whipped out to Radio Shack and got a new SPL Meter - can't believe they charge 50 clams for what looks like $1.75 of plastic junk - but I am looking forward to calibrating them this weekend.


I have to agree with you on the $50 spl meter from radio shack, which i just purchased a few days ago.  I love your setup brotha especially with the 2 badass subs you just added to the RTIA setup.  I currently have a 7.0 RTIA setup but am planning on purchasing dual PB12-NSD for $1200 (outlet) or PB-2000 for $1500 (new) but can't seem to pull the trigger.  I don't know if you look at these 2 options, but what would you recommend?


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I have to agree with you on the $50 spl meter from radio shack, which i just purchased a few days ago.  I love your setup brotha especially with the 2 badass subs you just added to the RTIA setup.  I currently have a 7.0 RTIA setup but am planning on purchasing dual PB12-NSD for $1200 (outlet) or PB-2000 for $1500 (new) but can't seem to pull the trigger.  I don't know if you look at these 2 options, but what would you recommend?

In that price range I'd recommend looking at dual PSA XV-15s.

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My advice is to get the most subwoofer you can but that's just me - lol.
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