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Between the SVS SB-2000 and Monitor Audio Silver W12, which would you pick if the price didn't matter? AKA about the same price. I was set on the SB-2000 until I saw the Silver W12 had comparable specs.

They both have a very similar size, same (D class) 500w RMS output ( the SB-2000 has 1100w peak and there is no peak value listed for the Silver W12) and same sized 12 inch cone (not sure which has the better excursion). Both are newly designed subs having been released in the last few months.

The only appreciable differences I can spot are:
1) The SB-2000 has a black oak vinyl finish and the Silver W12 has a better looking piano white gloss finish that would match the 5 x Monitor Audio Radius 225 speakers I will be using
2) The SB-2000 has a frequency response of 19-220 Hz ± 3 dB and the Silver W12 has a frequency response of Low Frequency Response: 20Hz (Typical IEC room), Upper Frequency Limit: 40 - 120Hz Variable
3) The SB-2000 has a more adjustable ( I also believe better) amp

Not considering multiple subs at this time, I have an exceptionally poorly shaped room conducive to poor audio performance.

Which would you pick in my position? Will there be any appreciable sound difference between them?

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SVS. You buy it manufacturer direct without dealer markup. That means you get more sub for the money. Better value. And, of course, SVS subs are famous for their high level of performance.
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You can always refinish the cabinet. Or have it refinished.
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I love Monitor Audio speakers, but when it comes to subs, I would go with SVS, HSU, or Rythmik in this price range.
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I love Monitor Audio speakers, but when it comes to subs, I would go with SVS, HSU, or Rythmik in this price range.

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SVS for all reasons stated above.

You would like to avoid dual subs, but an alternative could be dual SB1000s in gloss white, the sb1k is slightly smaller and has your preferred finish as an option. If your limited to placement you can always stack.

If your set on one subwoofer and it is the SB2000 there is one in the svs outlet.
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I can only tell you that I've had an SB-2000 for 10 days and I'm very pleased. It has plenty of punch for my 1,536 cu. ft. area. The secret to getting peak performance from the sub in my acoustically-challenged space was placing it on a pedestal, about 18" off the floor in a corner.

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Any reason you don't want dual?

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Thanks for the info, I'll go with the SVS SB-2000 option!
I live in Canada so I always end up paying a bit more than people living in the US, for the typical reasons. I'll be buying from sonic boom audio in Canada.
Just visited the SVS site and saw the SB-1000 does come in gloss white, it would be nice but I do prefer the SB-2000 considering the minimal difference in size and price.
I like how the SB-2000 has a metal grill vs the typical weak fabric.
I considered dual subs briefly but I plan to block off 750 cubic feet with a sliding wall, to decrease the volume to 1800 cubic feet plus an open doorway to the rest of the house. I'll see how one SB-2000 preforms and consider a second if I hear a problem. The room is a poorly shaped family room with many reflection points. if I had a dedicated theatre room, I would have dual subs.
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You can always refinish the cabinet. Or have it refinished.

I like the way you think, I'll definitely look into this option. The best of both worlds!
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In Canada, you will be happy with a PSB S300 sub if you can get some discount from local dealers.
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The MA SW12 is rated to 20 Hz in a IEC room? I hate it when manufacturers don’t specify a +/- anechoic figure. This could mean -10dB window with room gain included.

The SVS does a honest to goodness 19Hz in a 6dB window, which probably translates to lots of useable output down to 25Hz in a real world small-medium sized room.

Go with the SVS. I have the older SB12 and it’s a beast of a sub for the money and size. The SB2000 brings it up another notch. Musical, tight, and still packs a punch when you need it. Not to mention world class customer support and warranty. Win win.

None of Monitor Audios previous subs were anything special…I’m sure they can be competent…but there’s no reason to indicate that the SVS isn’t a better buy for the same money…they’ve always set the standard for overall build quality, performance, and customer satisfaction.

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The MA SW12 is rated to 20 Hz in a IEC room? I hate it when manufacturers don’t specify a +/- anechoic figure. This could mean -10dB window with room gain included.<br><br>
The SVS does a honest to goodness 19Hz in a 6dB window, which probably translates to lots of useable output down to 25Hz in a real world small-medium sized room.<br><br>
Go with the SVS. I have the older SB12 and it’s a beast of a sub for the money and size. The SB2000 brings it up another notch. Musical, tight, and still packs a punch when you need it. Not to mention world class customer support and warranty. Win win.<br><br>
None of Monitor Audios previous subs were anything special…I’m sure they can be competent…but there’s no reason to indicate that the SVS isn’t a better buy for the same money…they’ve always set the standard for overall build quality, performance, and customer satisfaction.
Hi, I'm in a similar dilemma as of now. I have MA Gold 200 floor standers and MA Gold C150 Centre speaker. I'm thinking if I should go for MA W12 or these SVS SB2000??? My room is of small-medium profile. I difference in price between both these subs is almost $300 (MA being more expensive). Pls let me know your experiences. @Ducman @purplerain @warpdrive @Nikwasi
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Any way you could get the SB12-NSD to Canada? Great I guess closeout sale $400. Amazon is selling them. If not yes to the SB2K.

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Hi, I'm in a similar dilemma as of now. I have MA Gold 200 floor standers and MA Gold C150 Centre speaker. I'm thinking if I should go for MA W12 or these SVS SB2000??? My room is of small-medium profile. I difference in price between both these subs is almost $300 (MA being more expensive). Pls let me know your experiences. @Ducman @purplerain @warpdrive @Nikwasi
The answer remains the same, you are not sacrificing anything in the SB2000. If you are tempted to get the MA, the only adavantage it has over the SVS is that it has a built in Room EQ setup which may help if you aren't using a Home theater receiver with some kind of automatic setup. Otherwise, the SVS is a proven clean sounding sub and I wouldn't hesitate to pair it with Monitor Audio speakers.


For the price of the MA sub, I'd recommend shooting even a bit higher than the SVS, going for a Rythmik F12 or Hsu ULS15Mk2 in nice wood finish, which are arguably the next step up from the SVS (Rhymik is well known for very good sounding subs, and Hsu offers even more bang for buck than SVS).

Monitor Audio makes great sounding speakers but like all a lot of companies, there are better subs from alternative manufacturers specializing in subs.

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Hi, I'm in a similar dilemma as of now. I have MA Gold 200 floor standers and MA Gold C150 Centre speaker. I'm thinking if I should go for MA W12 or these SVS SB2000??? My room is of small-medium profile. I difference in price between both these subs is almost $300 (MA being more expensive). Pls let me know your experiences. @Ducman @purplerain @warpdrive @Nikwasi
Hi. With the fine speakers you have i would go at least sb13u or sb16u...only those subs would complement your speakers well...or if you can get psa s1500 or s3000i or hsu uls 15 mk2...that is my opinion

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I considered dual subs briefly but I plan to block off 750 cubic feet with a sliding wall, to decrease the volume to 1800 cubic feet plus an open doorway to the rest of the house.
If that partition is a typical sliding partition, it probably does little to stop bass. Bass travels right through paper and a thick fabric partition is not going to do much to stop it either.

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I'll see how one SB-2000 preforms and consider a second if I hear a problem. The room is a poorly shaped family room with many reflection points. if I had a dedicated theatre room, I would have dual subs.
Dual subs are more for smoothing the frequency response over a wider area than for adding bang. It helps to keep them separated from each other.

If you have an irregularly shaped room that is open floorplan, you probably want to put your subwoofer into the deepest corner that is surrounded by the longest contiguous walls floor and ceiling you have in the room. That helps ensure that the subwoofer has good boundary reinforcement down to the lowest frequencies.

If you use a second subwoofer with it, you probably want to put that one in the middle of the wall that is farthest from the first subwoofer, to drive the axial mode on the longest dimension from both ends and cancel it. That helps eliminate the deep modal null in the center of the longest dimension (that also probably coincides with your main listening position too).
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