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Hey guys. I figured I'd post this thread as it caters better to this particular topic.

I am trying to determine which subwoofer to purchase. My max budget is under $1,000. The room that this will be utilized in is 20x13. It is an open floor plan into the breakfast area and kitchen.

Here are the subs I'm considering that are within my price range:


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~ XV15: $799


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~ PB-1000: $499
~ PB-2000: $799
~ Dual PB-1000: $949


Let me know what you guys think of any of these options or if you'd have any other suggestions!

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If it is for home theater, or a combination of home theater and music, i would suggest:

 

PSA XV15

SVS PB2000

HSU VTF3.4

 

These would be your best bang for your buck under $800.

 

Music only I would add several sealed options to that.

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If it is for home theater, or a combination of home theater and music, i would suggest:

 

PSA XV15

SVS PB2000

HSU VTF3.4

 

These would be your best bang for your buck under $800.

 

Music only I would add several sealed options to that.

Thanks for you response bear. The primary use will be for home theater. It will be used for music as well. It's probably 90% home theater and 10% music.

 

EDIT: what are the main specs I need to focus on when comparing units?

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Okay updated my options. Still open to suggestions.

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I would take the def tech subs off your list. You will be happy with the svs, PSA, or hsu.
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So do you guys think I should take klipsch off as well?

Also, for the size of the room and the openness, would it make more sense to go single or double subs?
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Scratch the deftech and klipsch...
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So do you guys think I should take klipsch off as well?

Also, for the size of the room and the openness, would it make more sense to go single or double subs?

Go with the best you can afford now. I think the PB-2000 is the way to go.

Forget about the Klipsch subwoofers, there is no comparison here.

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Okay. Def tech and klipsch have been removed.

Now it's down to the PSA XV15, the PB-2000, or the dual PB-1000.

Just out of curiosity, if I can get my wife to cave and give me a $1,500 budget, what are my options?
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Duals of either the PB2000, XV15, or VTF3.4 would be drastic upgrades from dual PB1000

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Duals of either the PB2000, XV15, or VTF3.4 would be drastic upgrades from dual PB1000
If I can't go over $1,000, would it be better to do the single PB2000 or the dual PB1000?
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Thats a tough call.  Either way you go on that route, you will upgrade to dual PB2000's within a year with their upgrade policy anyway.

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Thats a tough call.  Either way you go on that route, you will upgrade to dual PB2000's within a year with their upgrade policy anyway.

I missed that. Where can I read into that?

Also, I hope this isn't a stupid question, as I said before, I'm still learning this stuff. Can the SVS subs be hooked up wireless or do I need to run wire to them?
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All subs can be hooked up wireless.

Easy enough haha. I saw the wireless accessory on there website.

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Look at the outlaw audio or rocket fish wireless adapters.

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Okay so I'm leaning toward SVS. However, I have another comparison request:

Single PB12-Plus $1,399

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Dual PB-2000 $1,499
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Dual PB-2000 will have better performance, but you do not get the variable tuning and extra amp features that the Plus has. It all comes down on what is more important to you. Dual subs will help smooth room modes which can require less eq from your avr room correction software to achieve a flat response...and that will equal more headroom. If you never see getting another Plus down the road then go dual PB.

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Okay. Def tech and klipsch have been removed.

Now it's down to the PSA XV15, the PB-2000, or the dual PB-1000.

Just out of curiosity, if I can get my wife to cave and give me a $1,500 budget, what are my options?

A $1,500 budget is just begging for dual PB-2000 (or XV15). 

 

Dual PB-2000 is $1,499 shipped from SVS. 

 

Pretty much everybody that does something like that seems quite happy.

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If I can't go over $1,000, would it be better to do the single PB2000 or the dual PB1000?

Good question. I have no idea. But I asked myself the same question and looked into it quite a bit. The most popular answer seemed to be: Get a PB-2000. Then, later on, you can upgrade to a second if you want. Or get the dual PB1000 with the potential to upgrade to dual PB2000 within a year. But if you are going to end up with two PB2000, it probably makes more sense to start with one, and then just get the second one, because

 

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I missed that. Where can I read into that?
 

SVS has a 1 year upgrade policy. For one year from the purchase of your sub, you can exchange it for a higher model and the entire purchase price of the first one will be applied towards the second. So say you spend $1,000 on a pair of PB1000...for a year after that you could pay $500 to up them to a pair of PB2000. The catch is that you have to pay return shipping on the less/older sub. This is why my personal recommendation would be to just get a single PB2000 with the intention of maybe, possibly, getting a second one later. That way you don't end up paying to ship/return two of the 1000s

 

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Okay so I'm leaning toward SVS. However, I have another comparison request:

Single PB12-Plus $1,399

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Dual PB-2000 $1,499
 
I'm asking myself the same question right now. My PB-2000 just arrived a few days ago but I know I want to either get a second one or upgrade to a 12-Plus.
 

Speaking of which, is there a particular reason you selected PB12-Plus and not PC12-Plus? The PC is only $1,199 and performs just like the PB12-Plus, only it is $200 less expensive and only weighs 75 lbs. 16.5" diameter by about 40" tall. 


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A $1,500 budget is just begging for dual PB-2000 (or XV15). 

Dual PB-2000 is $1,499 shipped from SVS. 

Pretty much everybody that does something like that seems quite happy.
Good question. I have no idea. But I asked myself the same question and looked into it quite a bit. The most popular answer seemed to be: Get a PB-2000. Then, later on, you can upgrade to a second if you want. Or get the dual PB1000 with the potential to upgrade to dual PB2000 within a year. But if you are going to end up with two PB2000, it probably makes more sense to start with one, and then just get the second one, because

SVS has a 1 year upgrade policy. For one year from the purchase of your sub, you can exchange it for a higher model and the entire purchase price of the first one will be applied towards the second. So say you spend $1,000 on a pair of PB1000...for a year after that you could pay $500 to up them to a pair of PB2000. The catch is that you have to pay return shipping on the less/older sub. This is why my personal recommendation would be to just get a single PB2000 with the intention of maybe, possibly, getting a second one later. That way you don't end up paying to ship/return two of the 1000s

Speaking of which, is there a particular reason you selected PB12-Plus and not PC12-Plus? The PC is only $1,199 and performs just like the PB12-Plus, only it is $200 less expensive and only weighs 75 lbs. 16.5" diameter by about 40" tall. 
there are differences between the PB and PC+. the PB has about 1.5db more output and less THD from 20hz and below.
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there are differences between the PB and PC+. the PB has about 1.5db more output and less THD from 20hz and below.
 
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A $1,500 budget is just begging for dual PB-2000 (or XV15). 

 

Dual PB-2000 is $1,499 shipped from SVS. 

 

Pretty much everybody that does something like that seems quite happy.

Good question. I have no idea. But I asked myself the same question and looked into it quite a bit. The most popular answer seemed to be: Get a PB-2000. Then, later on, you can upgrade to a second if you want. Or get the dual PB1000 with the potential to upgrade to dual PB2000 within a year. But if you are going to end up with two PB2000, it probably makes more sense to start with one, and then just get the second one, because

 

SVS has a 1 year upgrade policy. For one year from the purchase of your sub, you can exchange it for a higher model and the entire purchase price of the first one will be applied towards the second. So say you spend $1,000 on a pair of PB1000...for a year after that you could pay $500 to up them to a pair of PB2000. The catch is that you have to pay return shipping on the less/older sub. This is why my personal recommendation would be to just get a single PB2000 with the intention of maybe, possibly, getting a second one later. That way you don't end up paying to ship/return two of the 1000s

 

Speaking of which, is there a particular reason you selected PB12-Plus and not PC12-Plus? The PC is only $1,199 and performs just like the PB12-Plus, only it is $200 less expensive and only weighs 75 lbs. 16.5" diameter by about 40" tall. 

 

To be honest, I just wasn't a fan of the look of the PC. I'm more of the block look to the sub. 

 

I think I am leaning toward the PB-2000, I just can't decide if I want to spend the extra for dual. 

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there are differences between the PB and PC+. the PB has about 1.5db more output and less THD from 20hz and below.

Good to know.

 

It would also be nice if the SVS website had more detailed information like that. For example, in the FAQ:

 

What are the differences between the ported cabinet and ported cylinder subwoofers?
 
Within each family (i.e., NSD, Plus, Ultra) the ported cabinet and ported cylinder subwoofers offer the same overall level of performance. While taller, the ported cylinder models have a smaller footprint than their ported cabinet counterparts, and are a popular choice where floor space is limited, but there are no height restrictions.
 

Which is not inaccurate, I suppose, as that is the same overall level of performance. But still...would be nice to have details listed there.


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To be honest, I just wasn't a fan of the look of the PC. I'm more of the block look to the sub. 

I think I am leaning toward the PB-2000, I just can't decide if I want to spend the extra for dual. 

If you have the funds go for it!

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Hey man! I apologize I never got back to you! This site is great. However, it's bad in the sense that I wasn't planning on spending as much as I was haha.

 

Kind of unrelated to the sub, can you give me some info on my receiver choice and the speakers I chose? I feel as if I'm getting hassled about the speakers. Speakercraft is the only option to me from the contractor through my homebuilder and I thought the AIM7 MT Three's were a good choice.

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Hey man! I apologize I never got back to you! This site is great. However, it's bad in the sense that I wasn't planning on spending as much as I was haha.

Kind of unrelated to the sub, can you give me some info on my receiver choice and the speakers I chose? I feel as if I'm getting hassled about the speakers. Speakercraft is the only option to me from the contractor through my homebuilder and I thought the AIM7 MT Three's were a good choice.
It's common. My budget for my speakers was $400. $1,300 later I am glad I got talked up and I am still wishing I had got with a better sub.

More than likely they offer those because they get them wholesale and sell them to you for retail.

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It's common. My budget for my speakers was $400. $1,300 later I am glad I got talked up and I am still wishing I had got with a better sub.

More than likely they offer those because they get them wholesale and sell them to you for retail.

http://www.avsforum.com/f/89/speakers

 

So what is it about them that are bad? I seemed to find a lot of good reviews. Are there any by speakercraft that would be better?

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I have no idea that's why I linked you to the speaker forum smile.gif

 

I'll do you one better. I contacted the contractor today and he stated he really liked Speaker Craft, but he could also get Klipsch, PSB, Boston Acostic, and other brands. He said I'd have to figure out what I like and he'd price them. You seem knowledgable, any suggestions?

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