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post #1 of 15 Old 04-15-2014, 09:29 PM - Thread Starter
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This is just a "might happen" thread. My wife and I started looking at new houses today and my (2) LFM-1EX subs would not fit into any of the homes we looked at.

Current room size 3400 cubic feet.

Possible new room 2000+/- cubic feet.

For one, the subs I have now would be WAY too big so I'd need to look for a smaller enclosure. So sealed? I've never owned a sealed sub in home audio. Cosmetics aren't that important but I'd like them to look decent. I have NHT speakers so matching black would be nice. I'm mainly concerned about the sound.

Any input? Where to start?

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First, I would really try to make the Outlaws work.  Have you thought of using one or both as end tables to help fit a smaller space better?  If you have to go smaller, dual PB1000's or dual XS15's would be two options.  I think the PSA sealed will keep good output for movies due to the larger drivers.  Rythmik also makes some fine sealed subs if you are willing to spend a bit more.


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First, I would really try to make the Outlaws work. ... If you have to go smaller, dual PB1000's ...
+1. 2,000 cu.ft. isn't that large a space. Dual PB-1000s would work very well in there.


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I second the end table idea with your Outlaws. I used to have an EX that served well as an end table.

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Yes try to make the Outlaws work, I have dual Plus's and have used 1 up front and 1 as an end table then when I moved to a new house and got new furniture I kept 1 up front but now have the other 1 behind the corner of my L shaped sectional couch and WOW!!! bass is awesome.... If you absolutely cant make the Outlaws work I'd look at 2 SVS SB2000's. They should work well in a smaller room and the sub cabinet is a 14.2" cube so very small for a 12" sub.

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I've never placed anything on my subs, do they ever shake so hard that stuff will fall over? like drinks or decoration stuff

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I don't think that will be a problem.  My sub is completely inert due to the design, but I know quite a few forum members who use single driver subs as end tables with lamps and such on them and don't seem to have issues.


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Thanks. I'll give it a test run tonight. I'd hate to have some friends over and a beer or something shakes off or spills over.

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I've never placed anything on my subs, do they ever shake so hard that stuff will fall over? like drinks or decoration stuff

I've tested my XV15 to see if it could act as an end table and it didn't cause anything to shake around too much. I agree with bear and the others and I would do everything in my power to run dual Outlaws if it's at all possible. 

 

That said, if you can't make the outlaws work I would think sealed subs would work well in a 2000 cu ft room. Of course that will depend on the sealed subs you end up using. 

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Ok, here is the plan:

 

Tell your wife you are thinking of switching subs:

 

LL

 

Then say, "Or, I was thinking of using the subs we have as endtables.  What do you think babe?"

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^ LOL, that's a great idea. I'm keeping that picture and using it myself in the future. 

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^^^^ HAHAHAH, I think that will work! What are those monsters?

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^^^^ HAHAHAH, I think that will work! What are those monsters?

Those are called orbit shifters.....and the name is appropriate.


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No kidding, those things are HUGE!

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You might need to build the room around those things. I bet the WAF is mighty low on the Orbit Shifters. 

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