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Old 04-18-2014, 08:56 AM - Thread Starter
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I've been searching on here for weeks on subs alone. I've narrowed it down to these two. I want to order one this week. I talked with Ed at svs and that's the sub that he recommended for my room. When I started looking at subs, the hsu caught my attention right away. 60/40 movies-TV/ music 2300 cubic feet. I have an infinity PS-10 now and it does the job but I'd like a little cleaner and tad more output capibility.

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I would probably lean towards the HSU. The SB-2000 is not going to give you enough low end bass for movies in that size room. Now a pair of SB-2000's would be a different story.
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PB-2000 or the VTF3!
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$100 over budget.

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PB2000 outlet special or the PB12-NSD at outlet special on SVS site at like 550? That's a stupid deal.
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PB2000 outlet special or the PB12-NSD at outlet special on SVS site at like 550? That's a stupid deal.

Oh yea the PB12 outlet special would be killer if it was still in stock. The PC12NSD outlet is 699.00.
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There are not any pb-2000 on outlet currently.

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But there is an sb-2000 for $649..

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At this level of the game the SB-2000 really won't be any cleaner than the PB brethren. The PBs are remarkably clean. Not saying the SB-2000 won't give you what you want, but for the same price you can get a bigger, badder sub!
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The one thing that draws me to the sb-2000 is size. The ported ones are getting a little large. But if the performance is that much better I could deal with it. That being said, should I wait for a pb-2000 to show up on outlet or get the hsu?

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PB12-NSD. Within like 3 dB of the PB-2000, but drops off a little quicker at 20 hz. The PB-12NSD will have better low-end performance the SB-2000.
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The one thing that draws me to the sb-2000 is size. The ported ones are getting a little large. But if the performance is that much better I could deal with it. That being said, should I wait for a pb-2000 to show up on outlet or get the hsu?

 

 

If size or the extra $100 isn't an issue, the PB2000 is a pound for pound, dollar for dollar BEAST ... below 30hz movie/LFE capability wasn't a requirement for me, and I was able to convince the Mrs. that

a second SB2000 wouldn't be the end of the world, so ...image.jpg

 

but my son was hoping to get the most out of his video game soundtracks and movie LFE, so he's going for the PB2000.

 

If the budget only allows for one sub, and there's available floor space, the PB2000 is a complete, all-around performer ... fine with music, digs deep for the rumble ... so performance-wise, the PB dominates it's smaller brother

 

 

HSU?  Better hope you're happy with it ... The color was so unacceptable with the HSU ULS15 in "rosenut" which I ordered ( not anything like what I'd seen inn their website or the somewhat darker images on the net ... the sub I received was a dark purple/plum color ) that I swallowed hard and forfeited the $75 non-refundable shipping charge and ended up paying an additional $155 ( from Ohio to Cali ) to send it back.

 

As you probably know, SVS offers free shipping to and fro within their 45 day trial period ... 

 

I like the size of the SB2000 ... upgrading from the MartinLogan Dynamo700, I was used to and liked the looks and "feel" of a smaller sub ... the SB is only a couple of inches bigger each way ... the PB2000 on the other hand ...

 

a single SB2000 sounds nice ... dual SBs sound great for my music and fine for "audibly pleasant" movie LFE ( not much, if any, rumble - but a definite presence nonetheless ) ... a single PB2000 great for music and LFE


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The one thing that draws me to the sb-2000 is size. The ported ones are getting a little large. But if the performance is that much better I could deal with it. That being said, should I wait for a pb-2000 to show up on outlet or get the hsu?

Only you can decide how large of a sub you want to get, but to illustrate the difference in LFE output, it takes four SB2000's to equal one PB2000 at 20 Hz.


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I would probably look at the PB-2000 because as the others have mentioned, it's larger but the output is worth it IMO. That said, if size really does matter then get the SB-2000 and see if it makes you happy. If so keep it, if not send it back and get the PB-2000.

 

I would also get the SVS sub first for the same reasons. If you like it keep it but if you don't send it back for free and get the HSU sub. As Tom said, you can't play that game by getting the HSU first (at least no without taking a loss). The nice thing about SVS is it really is a no risk trial. 

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If 4 sb equal one pb12, how does the pb-1000 rank. It's closer to my budget and size requirements.

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Looks like I'll be waiting for a pb-2000 in outlet. Thanks for all the input.

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