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Hello All,

Newbie here. starting with my new HT setup. Currently own Yamaha RX V675 receiver.planning to get Pioneer floor standers. On budget of max 250$ for subwoofer. Room is 24*10*12. Usage 50/50 movies and music.
Reading over forums, found these two to be good and in my budget. I am open to choices. Just trying to get VFM sub.
Also it would be a bonus if sub is compact and compatible with 220-240v but not mandatory.
Advice please.
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Would you consider $280 for a BIC PL-200?

 

I hear that an offer of $280 is likely to be accepted (free shipping)

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIC-Acoustech-PL-200-12-1000-Watt-Powered-Subwoofer-/371042796660?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers


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Would you consider $280 for a BIC PL-200?

I hear that an offer of $280 is likely to be accepted (free shipping)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIC-Acoustech-PL-200-12-1000-Watt-Powered-Subwoofer-/371042796660?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers
Is PL200 considerably better than FL2? If so, I d be willing to stretch my budget. Also I see that PL200 is heavier and bigger than FL2 which is what I am trying to avoid
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Is PL200 considerably better than FL2? If so, I d be willing to stretch my budget. Also I see that PL200 is heavier and bigger than FL2 which is what I am trying to avoid

FL2? You mean the BIC F12? That's the number 12, not an L and then a 2. ;)

 

Can you quantify, like  specific dimensions, what you are looking for?

 

The catch is that in order to get the best performance for movies/home theater, you are going to want a ported sub...which is not small. The size is a necessity to get that strong low-end output. 

 

I have no experience with the PL-200 (I do have an F12), but from everything I have read the PL-200 is definitely a step up from the Dayton 1200 or the BIC F12. 

 

That said, the F12 is definitely a solid performer for its price, and can be had for $189.49 shipped on Amazon right now (Prime eligible)

 

http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-F12-475-Watt-Subwoofer/dp/B0015A8Y5M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398195474&sr=8-1

 

This would also be a worthy contender in the $200 price bracket. (currently $191.98 and Prime eligible)

 

http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-12-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B000092TT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398195519&sr=8-1

 

 

Those are all pretty low prices. When I was shopping for a budget sub back around January to February, the 505 was like $250+ and the F12 was $200. Having both at like $190 shipped...great choices.

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Thanks a lot for your advice. I checked the link you provided and was able to get PL 200 for 280$ which I think is sweet. I am tempted to get smile.gif
But I really want to know which is better Dayton 1200 or BIC F12.
I read quite a few threads but most of them gets ended up in discussing placement of sub woofer.
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I think you'll be hard pressed to find someone who has done a side by side comparison... The sub-1200 is on sale right now for $109 (there's also a 10% off coupon code out there). For that price you can get dual sub-1200s and call it a day.
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You should also take a look at the nxg bas500 Jim Wilson has a review on home theater shack. You can get it for 260 shipped. It's a beast in my basement. Check out the review.
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So for a point of reference my sunken living room is 16.5 x 26.5 x 8 and opens three steps up into my larger dinning area that I am to lazy to measure. One day I will diagram. Anyways though, I bought 2 of the Daytona as a Christmas present for my self and although I still haven't had the time to really fine tune them to the room and my speakers, nor spent tons of hours listening I will say I am extremely happy with my purchase. I have watched a dozen or so bluejays, and maybe couple dozen CDs some hi res stuff also. My front mains are Acoustat Spectra 11 ESL's And although over 25years old blow guests away withe their open and airy resolution and clarity. My 200 watt per channel Adcom amp clips out driving them at a significant volume level (sorry no app meter) and the Dayton's are still tight, punchy, loud, clean and not straining. I can't comment on the other subs as I have't heard them but after 4 months so far I will say the Dayton's are a solid value.
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Thanks all for your inputs. I understand that side by side comparison between these two subs might be rare. However based on specs alone, if some one is able to shed some light on the differences, it will help me make decision. Is BIC F12 worth 80$ more than Sub 1200

 

BIC F12:

  • Design: Front-firing 12" 475-watt peak powered subwoofer
  • Frequency Response: 25Hz - 200Hz
  • Sensitivity: 90dB
  • Drivers: 12" Injection molded woofer with heavy duty surround
  • Magnetic Shielding: YES
  • Gold-Plated Terminals:YES
  • Recommended Power: Built-in Amplifier Power: 475 watts Dynamic Peak, 150 watts RMS continuous
  • Impedance: 8 ohms
  • Dimensions: 17"H x 14 3/4"W x 17 1/4"D
  • Weight: 42 Pounds Each
  • Warranty: 5 Years Parts & Labor

 

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Bottom-firing, flared port, bass reflex design for reduced port noise and increased bass response. It also utilizes a long-throw 12" woofer and up to 120 watts

Power output: 120 watts RMS • Frequency response: 25-140 Hz • Box design: Ported • Inputs: RCA line level & speaker level • Outputs: Speaker level • Crossover frequency control: Continuously variable from 40 Hz to 140 Hz @ 12 dB/octave • Phase switch • Auto on/off • Power requirements: 120 VAC, 60 Hz • Dimensions: 16-3/4" H x 16-3/16" W x 17-3/4" D.

1 Year warranty.

 

I read some where that they both are made of same materials, just F12 looks better and so the price is more. Not sure how true this is..

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I have the sub 1200 and it digs down to 23hz in my room and is very audible down to 28hz..

I find the room has a lot to do with these and its really easy to make one sound better than the other, just based on placement and in my case, orientation.

Room: Front wall, 11', right side, 20' ' with large opening on the front left side about 7', then enclosed for 13', rear wall 11'


sub placed in the front right corner, about 8" from each wall, 45 degrees aimed at the opposite corner.

Listening position is the 2' off the rear 11' wall.

its a bit peaky around 48-53hz, but not droning, and it is pretty even across the entire range and hits quite well from 28hz easily.
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I went ahead and got Sub 1200. I had a chance to compare it with SVS PB2000. Due to sheer power, PB2000 definitely sounds better but Sub 1200 is no slouch. Sounds great and is compact enough for my need. I am happy with the purchase.
One thing that worries me is only 1year warranty on sub 1200. Hopefully it won't cheap out on me after an year.
Thanks again for everyone in this thread.
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I have spent enough time with the sub now. I can say i have enjoyed it so far. Today i have noticed something and i could not get my head around it. So thought of asking here

 

I am running Yamaha RX V675 receiver, Pioneer FS52 floor standers and Sub 1200 in 2.1 setup. Fronts are set as Small in Receiver and Sub is crossed at 80Hz. When i play below video, Sub kicks in at 35hz.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukQ6OSs3dWo&list=PLzuCd1CnQKokNCr0mQQWEpponH_la1LIy&index=4

 

Now, when i activate Puredirect on receiver(which i believe sends full range to Fronts and almost none to Sub), I see that Woofer cones on Pioneer's starts moving right from 1Hz. When i say move, i mean really move in and out. I have never seen such cone movement on the Sub. 

 

My questions:

1) @trueno92 how is that you are able to achieve 23hz with your sub. I know that room and placement matters, but can i really go down from 35 to 23 by moving it across room. Right now it is placed in the front right corner parallel to walls.

2) How is it that Pioneer's are able to respond to 1Hz while Sub doesn't?

3) Has any of you seen your Sub 1200's cone move in and out or is it something that should not be expected out of a budget sub like this(because of amp being less powered or whatever)

 

TIA for the advice!

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I haven't read all of the post but just for the record, I have both the F12 and the PL-200 and the Pl-200 is well worth it, it is a HUGE upgrade from the F12, both great subs but I think you should go with the PL, it can get quite low and you wont be disappointed! 

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I haven't read all of the post but just for the record, I have both the F12 and the PL-200 and the Pl-200 is well worth it, it is a HUGE upgrade from the F12, both great subs but I think you should go with the PL, it can get quite low and you wont be disappointed! 

Thanks for the reply. I had already purchased Sub 1200. Had some questions regarding its operation, so posted above 

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I have spent enough time with the sub now. I can say i have enjoyed it so far. Today i have noticed something and i could not get my head around it. So thought of asking here

 

I am running Yamaha RX V675 receiver, Pioneer FS52 floor standers and Sub 1200 in 2.1 setup. Fronts are set as Small in Receiver and Sub is crossed at 80Hz. When i play below video, Sub kicks in at 35hz.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukQ6OSs3dWo&list=PLzuCd1CnQKokNCr0mQQWEpponH_la1LIy&index=4

 

Now, when i activate Puredirect on receiver(which i believe sends full range to Fronts and almost none to Sub), I see that Woofer cones on Pioneer's starts moving right from 1Hz. When i say move, i mean really move in and out. I have never seen such cone movement on the Sub. 

 

My questions:

1) @trueno92 how is that you are able to achieve 23hz with your sub. I know that room and placement matters, but can i really go down from 35 to 23 by moving it across room. Right now it is placed in the front right corner parallel to walls.

2) How is it that Pioneer's are able to respond to 1Hz while Sub doesn't?

3) Has any of you seen your Sub 1200's cone move in and out or is it something that should not be expected out of a budget sub like this(because of amp being less powered or whatever)

 

TIA for the advice!

Anyone?

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Sub placement has no effect on what frequencies the sub will play.
I find it hard to believe you get come movement at 1hz with your speakers. If you did then you would be getting some sound from them and they will not produce any sound below about 50 hz.

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I have spent enough time with the sub now. I can say i have enjoyed it so far. Today i have noticed something and i could not get my head around it. So thought of asking here

I am running Yamaha RX V675 receiver, Pioneer FS52 floor standers and Sub 1200 in 2.1 setup. Fronts are set as Small in Receiver and Sub is crossed at 80Hz. When i play below video, Sub kicks in at 35hz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukQ6OSs3dWo&list=PLzuCd1CnQKokNCr0mQQWEpponH_la1LIy&index=4

Now, when i activate Puredirect on receiver(which i believe sends full range to Fronts and almost none to Sub), I see that Woofer cones on Pioneer's starts moving right from 1Hz. When i say move, i mean really move in and out. I have never seen such cone movement on the Sub. 

My questions:
1) @trueno92
 how is that you are able to achieve 23hz with your sub. I know that room and placement matters, but can i really go down from 35 to 23 by moving it across room. Right now it is placed in the front right corner parallel to walls.
2) How is it that Pioneer's are able to respond to 1Hz while Sub doesn't?
3) Has any of you seen your Sub 1200's cone move in and out or is it something that should not be expected out of a budget sub like this(because of amp being less powered or whatever)

TIA for the advice!

1. Placement can have a significant affect on bass... Corners enhance the lower bass by amplifying through horn loading... The sub will not play any differently, its just that corner placement is louder than non-corner placement.
2. No speaker can playback 1 Hz... No current source can playback 1 Hz. What are you playing that has a 1Hz signal?
3. The Sub 1200 should have some movement when playing back 20Hz and above...

If it's not a BIG screen, it's not a theater...
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1. Placement can have a significant affect on bass... Corners enhance the lower bass by amplifying through horn loading... The sub will not play any differently, its just that corner placement is louder than non-corner placement.
2. No speaker can playback 1 Hz... No current source can playback 1 Hz. What are you playing that has a 1Hz signal?
3. The Sub 1200 should have some movement when playing back 20Hz and above...

In below frequency sweep video, when it shows 1Hz, all three woofer cones on my Pioneer's move in and out. I can clearly see them slowly move in and out at 1Hz and as frequency increases, cone movement paces up.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukQ6OSs3dWo&list=PLzuCd1CnQKokNCr0mQQWEpponH_la1LIy&index=4

 

I am surprised too :)

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How fast are the cones moving? At 1Hz, the movement should be 1 cycle per second....

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I had the BIC F12 and found it to be basically unusable below 35hz. I have a very hard time believing that the Sub 1200 can playback nearly to 20hz at that price point. I'm not really sure if there is anything in that price range that can play down to nearly 20hz.

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How fast are the cones moving? At 1Hz, the movement should be 1 cycle per second....

At 1Hz cones begin to move. Movement is slow and i can clearly see them move in and out.

 

My only gripe is, Why doesn't my Sub 1200 does that? I can hear the Sub's output, but i don't see much excursion.

It would be fun to watch it :) 

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The Dayton amps have a sub filter that rolls off the signal below 20 Hz or so. You drive your speakers at that low a level will probably burn the voice coils if you can see the cones moving...

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The Dayton amps have a sub filter that rolls off the signal below 20 Hz or so. You drive your speakers at that low a level will probably burn the voice coils if you can see the cones moving...
Thanks Jon. Even above 35hz i barely see the cone moving. I think its because of weak subout signal from my Yamaha receiver. I may get a Y cable and see if it helps in future
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I have spent enough time with the sub now. I can say i have enjoyed it so far. Today i have noticed something and i could not get my head around it. So thought of asking here

I am running Yamaha RX V675 receiver, Pioneer FS52 floor standers and Sub 1200 in 2.1 setup. Fronts are set as Small in Receiver and Sub is crossed at 80Hz. When i play below video, Sub kicks in at 35hz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukQ6OSs3dWo&list=PLzuCd1CnQKokNCr0mQQWEpponH_la1LIy&index=4

Now, when i activate Puredirect on receiver(which i believe sends full range to Fronts and almost none to Sub), I see that Woofer cones on Pioneer's starts moving right from 1Hz. When i say move, i mean really move in and out. I have never seen such cone movement on the Sub. 

My questions:
1) @trueno92
 how is that you are able to achieve 23hz with your sub. I know that room and placement matters, but can i really go down from 35 to 23 by moving it across room. Right now it is placed in the front right corner parallel to walls.
2) How is it that Pioneer's are able to respond to 1Hz while Sub doesn't?
3) Has any of you seen your Sub 1200's cone move in and out or is it something that should not be expected out of a budget sub like this(because of amp being less powered or whatever)

TIA for the advice!

@ 23 hz its around -15db, but there is definitely something playing. but at low frequencies below 35hz i would say you are hearing more of the room rather than the actual sub itself... so at this point it depends on the room very heavily. Hardwood floors? not a lot of soft furniture? lots of reflective surfaces? these all are contributing factors to how easily you can hear something play really low.

The other influencing factor is listening position. If your sub is in the front right corner, and you are up against the back wall, you will certainly hear something pretty low and louder than anywhere else in the room. There will be a significant null based on resonant frequencies of what the room is made up of and the bass won't sound really 'clean' or 'distinct' (if you listened to the scales of an upright bass, they could sound muddy) but you will start to hear that really low output opposed to listening in any other part of the room.

with my spl meter by 29hz the output is inline with the rest of the output curve with a hump around 50hz (+8db) but comes down even to about 120hz (i set it a bit high, as I am running this with a soundbar) @ 85db output. (i am honestly afraid of blowing/breaking something if I go louder than this)
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Don't tear your mains up. I am pretty sure they should not be playing a 1 Hz signal at any significant level.

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