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I have been wanting to upgrade to a SVS SB-1000 subwoofer for quite some time now. I have been using a Cambridge Audio Minx X300 subwoofer which came in the Cambridge Audio Minx S325v2 5.1 system. Been very happy with it but I am slowly changing my system out to Def Tech's only because I installed Def Tech DI5.5R in ceiling speakers for my surround sound (back speakers) for a cleaner look and I really like them. So now it's time to change out the fronts to either Mythos Gem XL or Mythos XTR-50's for left and right and a Pro Center 1000 or 2000 for the center. Now I have very limited space for a Subwoofer and only 1 place I can put it. It's sits in the front right corner of the room right under the front right speaker which is wall mounted. The subwoofer can be no bigger then 15 inches wide and 18 inches deep MAX. tallness is not a problem.

My room is the living room ( not a dedicated HT room) and is about 1400 cu feet. with only a 7.3 ft ceiling and thick berber carpet thru out. I guess some people would say there is a lot of room gain in this room. I have never had a problem with good bass no matter if I ran towers by themselves or a sub/sat system. So my thinking was the SVS SB-1000 is perfect as it is 13"x13"x13" and is a sealed sub which should work great especially if I was always happy with the Cambridge X300 sub.

Now before I order the SVS sub I would like to know if there is any other subwoofer comparable to the SVS SB-1000 size for size at a $500.00 to $600.00 price point that I am overlooking. I don't mind spending a little more if something is going to be better but again size is the only draw back. By the way I am running a Marantz SR5008 receiver right now.


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... My room is the living room ( not a dedicated HT room) and is about 1400 cu feet. ... So my thinking was the SVS-1000 is perfect as it is 13"x13"x13" ... Now before I order the SVS sub I would like to know if there is any other subwoofer comparable to the SVS-1000 size for size at a $500.00 to $600.00 price point that I am overlooking. I don't mind spending a little more if something is going to be better but again size is the only draw back.
The SVS SB-1000 (not SVS-1000) would be a solid choice for that room, those dimensions and that price range.

(The Martin Logan Dynamo 700 - if you can find it on sale for $600 - would be another option. Amazon.com has one available at this moment for ~$650, shipped.)

If you can do 15" wide and 18.4" deep, the SB-1000's ported sibling, the PB-1000 (also $499, shipped), would be a better choice (IMO).
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I knew I forgot something! Yes a SVS SB-1000. Also let me mention I have owned a Polk PSW111, Polk DSW Pro 550wi, Energy ESW-8 and the Martin Logan Dynamo 700 in the past but had different speakers at the time and a different receiver. I did like the Dynamo 700 but didn't like the Motion series speakers I bought at the same time so everything went back including the Sub. As for the SVS PB-1000, It would be a very tight fit and my thinking is there should be some room around the subwoofer. Or does that matter? thanks again.


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No room necessary around a sub except for in front for the port. It can help to have a little room int he back for the cable and such to stick out a bit. I agree that you will be more impressed by the PB-1000 in that size room imo.
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How about between the SB-1000 and the SB12-NSD? I see they have a couple in the outlet store that look good. Would there be any performance gain with the SB12-NSD? I don't see a whole lot of difference in spec's between the 2. Maybe the SB12-NSD has more output? (louder)?


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The SB12-NSD - which was replaced by the SB-2000 - has both more power (400W vs. 300W) and a better driver than the SB-1000. I'd take an SB12-NSD over an SB-1000.
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The SB12-NSD - which was replaced by the SB-2000 - has both more power (400W vs. 300W) and a better driver than the SB-1000. I'd take an SB12-NSD over an SB-1000.

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I have the SB-1000. I use it nearfield in a computer desktop setup. It does sound great. The SB-1000 would do OK in your size room, and it certainly should be much better than the Cambridge X300. But better to have the slightly better low end extension, better driver, and more output of the SB12.

Here's a review of the SB12: http://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-reviews/sb12-nsd-subwoofer Note that the reviewer is listening to the SB12 in a 4000 cubic ft room. So you would get some better bass impact in your space.

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also sb12 nsd comes in gloss black, much nicer than SB vinyl wrap. The SB12 NSD black vinyl wrap is still vinyl wrap but it's not the fake wood effect grain like you get on the cheapest speakers. I would prefer a Rel Grittex finish over black vinyl wrap though

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FWIW I agree with the advice you are getting above as well. I would take the SB12-NSD all day long over the SB-1000. But the SB-1000 and PB-1000 are probably the best subs you can get for $500 so if that's your budget you should know you are getting a great sub at that price. 

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FWIW I agree with the advice you are getting above as well. I would take the SB12-NSD all day long over the SB-1000. But the SB-1000 and PB-1000 are probably the best subs you can get for $500 so if that's your budget you should know you are getting a great sub at that price. 

You could always jam the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus into that space you have. It's currently on sale for $499. But it would stick out some. (lol)

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Yes I was looking at the Outlaw LFM-1 plus tonight for 499 but it's just to darn deep at 22". Thanks for the link to the review on the SB12. that was what I needed to read. Looks like I will be going with the SB12-NSD. It's not that much more money then the SB-1000 and It will fit perfect. Looks to be a good all around performer. Should  do wonders for my room!!  It will be a little bit before I change over to the Def Techs for the fronts. I am real curious as to see how the SB12 enhances the Cambridge Minx Min21's. Should be interesting. I am sure the Audyssey XT will do a good job at setting it up.

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Great! Yep. Audyssey will get it all configured.

Come back and let us know how it sounds compared to the Cambridge X300 smile.gif

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I sure will, should be next week sometime if all goes well.


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I sure will, should be next week sometime if all goes well.


Well, it's taken longer then I thought to get a new subwoofer. The friend that was going to buy my X300 had to back out at the last minute because his lawn mower blew up the week he was going to buy it. But I sold all 5 of my MIN21 satellite speakers and he might have the funds to finally buy the X300. So now I am looking again.
While I have been waiting I looked around at other choices and notice 2 other subwoofers that caught my eye.


How would the HSU VTF-1 or STF-2 compare to the SVS SB-1000 or SB-2000? It would be tight fit but i just have enough room for the VTF-1. It cost $507.00 shipped. Or how about 2 Outlaw M-8's? They cost $548.00. I could fit each M-8 on the front wall under each wall mounted front speakers. 1 sub would be in a corner, the other to a open area. Not sure if 2 smaller subwoofers in this arrangement would benefit over one larger subwoofer. Anyone have any thoughts?

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The Reaction Audio BPS-212 (two opposing 12-inch drivers) fits your size and price requirements and should be given serious thought.
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The Reaction Audio BPS-212 (two opposing 12-inch drivers) fits your size and price requirements and should be given serious thought.
Thanks for the insight on the Reaction Audio sub. There web site doesn't show many pictures but looks to me the drivers are facing the sides? If that is the correct then both drivers would only be about a inch from the wall and entertainment console on both sides. The subwoofer has to sit in a 3 sided space in a corner which doesn't leave me much room. That's why I was looking at a sealed front firing sub or maybe a down firing with port subwoofer.

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Great! Yep. Audyssey will get it all configured.

Come back and let us know how it sounds compared to the Cambridge X300
Well finally after talking to SVS I ended up ordering the SB-1000 and I received it Yesterday afternoon. SVS told me if I were to go with the SB12-NSD there would be a small improvement but probably not much for the money difference. So with there 45 day return policy I thought I would stick with the less expensive sub and see how it sounds compared to the Cambridge X300 and see if it was enough Subwoofer for what I was looking for. While I was add it I changed out my front 3 speakers from the Cambridge Min21's to the Definitive GEM XL for my front L/R and a Pro1000 center. ( already had the Definitive DI 5.5R in-ceiling speakers in place) for my surrounds. I also had a chance to run the Definitive speakers with my Cambridge X300 in place for comparison.
I must say, I was only able to do some quick testing for now with some of my favorite reference movies scenes and music content but so far I am very impressed with the SB-1000. Much improvement in everyway over the X300. The SVS SB-1000 produces very smooth bass, tighter bass, stronger bass down low, much improved output with a lower volume setting. It's clearly a step or 2 up from the Cambridge X300 or any of the other 4 subs that I have owned. I think I will be very happy with this subwoofer. It's compact, fits in the corner nice, looks good and definitely has good output for my 1400 cu/ft living room. I will do some testing later on with my DB meter to see how loud this system is compared to the Cambridge Minx S325-v2 5.1 system that I was using.
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I still must wonder how the Outlaw M-8 down firing ported sub for $299.00 would compare to the SVS SB-1000 in output??
Both have a comparable usable frequency range for what I am looking for. I just can't find any spec's on the output of the Outlaw M-8. Anyone know? I could save myself a couple of hundred buck by going with the M-8. Is it worth it? I don't know!

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I have an Outlaw sub (not the M8). I would suspect that the M8 is just as good a price performance value as the SB-1000, with the SB-1000 being the better sub overall because it's a higher class.

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