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Well i suppose I could hook it up in my living room and run some rew sweeps sometime. I might just do that eventually.
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Those small subs can make surprisingly good thumpers.
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According to this, it's 28hz.
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I'm actually inclined to believe it Jim. This little sub really has unbelievable sound for it's small size. I would never pay retail, but for what I paid it was a steal.

I'll try to do some REW measurements later this week and post them here.
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I have a Baby Boomer, which is the larger brother to that one, and Pinnacle claims a -3dB point of 23Hz for it. In the past I've found Pinnacles quoted spec's to be pretty accurate, but in this case they're somewhat ambitious; while the BB can hit 23Hz, it was down 12dB by then. Essentially inaudible and unusable.

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Jim, how do you like the BB?
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Yep, which is why I'm curious about how low it actually goes


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Here's the response in my 960 cu. ft. office.

You were right Jim, their claims are a bit ambitious, but still not too shabby.

This is with mains, crossover around 80hz, gain around 10:00, no smoothing.

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Thanks, that's probably pretty close but the sub included in that package is slightly different. Smaller amp and a larger enclosure, and Pinnacle only rates it down to 32hz vs. 29 for the subsonic.

Thanks Alan P for your graph! Nice to see it's a decent performer for its size.
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Jim, how do you like the BB?

It's actually not a bad sub, all things considered. The output and SQ are a whole lot better then you might think when you look at how tiny this thing is. I bought one to play around with, because I was always curious how it would perform, but I'm going to sell it now (I have to start unloading some of the speakers and subwoofers I've amassed recently).


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Here's the response in my 960 cu. ft. office.

You were right Jim, their claims are a bit ambitious, but still not too shabby.

Give its size and driver compliment I agree, just not quite up to what they claim.

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Here's the response in my 960 cu. ft. office.

You were right Jim, their claims are a bit ambitious, but still not too shabby.

This is with mains, crossover around 80hz, gain around 10:00, no smoothing.

Nice! With some eq in the 50hz are I can see it being flat into the 30's up to 90db or so. I knew it dug much lower then 62hz...
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Nice! With some eq in the 50hz are I can see it being flat into the 30's up to 90db or so. I knew it dug much lower then 62hz...
I've actually thought about hooking up my unused MiniDSP to EQ it flat.

Kind of overkill for a desktop system though, dontcha think??
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Kind of overkill for a desktop system though, dontcha think??
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You're asking that question HERE?!
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A little update on the Subsonic:

I'm loving this little sub in my office! No complaints from the neighbors yet...it has such tight, controlled bass that I don't think it travels very much. On the other hand, my boss (office next door) has a super crappy little sub hooked up to his PC and the rumble carries into my office something horrible! Every time he's watching a YouTube video my Sub-Spidey Sense goes through the roof!

With my little Micca bookshelf speakers, the Lepai 2020A T-amp and this Subsonic, the music is clear, well-defined, articulate, balanced, has great bass...and at low volume, near-field, I swear it could almost compete with my home system (KHorns + quad PSAs). I find myself staying late at work just to see what the next song coming up on "shuffle" might be.

Color me impressed!
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It is indeed a great little sub!! I have been enjoying mine when I am out in the garage working. I will post a pick of the garage 2.1 setup when I get a chance.
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I have a pair of these guys, and they sound a lot better than i ever imagined. I have no clue how low they go.

http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-SUBco.../dp/B0007XEB0K
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I have a pair of these guys, and they sound a lot better than i ever imagined. I have no clue how low they go.

http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-SUBco.../dp/B0007XEB0K
They actually still exist, not discontinued as Amazon indicates. I have one of these, pretty powerful and low for such a small package:


http://pinnaclespeakers.com/subcompact6.html

System Type: Ultra Compact, Front Firing 6.5", Acoustic Suspension.

Component Drivers: (1) 6.5" heavyweight fibercone woofer with butyl surround, 2" voice coil and 30 ounce magnet.

Subwoofer Low End Frequency Response: 28 Hz (- 3 dB)

Variable Subwoofer Low Pass Filter: 50 - 150 Hz

Satellite Speaker Crossover: First Order @ 80 Hz

System Power: 200 Watts

Dimensions: 7 7/8” Wide x 8” High x 9 3/8" Deep (with Amp & Grille)

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System Type: Ultra Compact, Front Firing 6.5", Acoustic Suspension.

Component Drivers: (1) 6.5" heavyweight fibercone woofer with butyl surround, 2" voice coil and 30 ounce magnet.

Subwoofer Low End Frequency Response: 28 Hz (- 3 dB)
28Hz is going to be optimistic. Here's what I measured for the Baby Boomer, which uses 8" drivers...
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28Hz is going to be optimistic. Here's what I measured for the Baby Boomer, which uses 8" drivers...
I absolutely agree! I just stated that it sounds 'good' for the size. It's being used in a room that was 'not supposed to have electronics' so I went with the smallest that sounded OK. Other subs in the house are all much larger. Even my Presonus Eris 8 speakers (active monitors with 8" drivers) being used for our keyboard dig lower. But, again, I agree with you - you can't get very low, powerful bass from such a small driver. For uses in small rooms or for PC speaker, they are pretty awesome for their size.

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