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1 PB13-Ultra or 2 PSA XV15se or 2 PB 2000 ?

Hey guys,

I want to order one of the options above. I want to order by the end of next week.

I just measured my room, it is 36 feet length, 18 feet width, 8 feet high. The room is in a
basement with one opening for the stairs to the upper level.

I mainly want the sub(s) for movies. I want something that makes me feel the action. I have an
old Paradigm PDR 12, its ok , but I want something more.

I was thinking about the PSA XV15se , but since I live in Canada, not many options here. I think
it would cost me more to get those PSA's shipped here.

I just want to get something that will wow me now and not regret and say dam I should of got
this and that etc...

Any thoughts , that would be great !

Also, if I decided on the Ultra , that would be just for the one single unit, not duals, and I will not be able
to afford to buy another Ultra in the future.

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None of the above. You have a large space located in a basement. By nature, basement are very dead spaces for subwoofers. All the subs you mentioned are good subs, but to get a good tactile respone, 4 sub is most likely needed. For the cost of the mentioned sub, Get 4 Stereo Integrity 18 in. subwoofer driver and build your own in 1-2 day. A second option is Part Express 18 in. Dayton sub kit. You just need glue and clamps for the most part.

I am in a larger basement and use 4 subs with a total of six 18 in. driver to get the job done. I tried two and it was loud enough but, lacking in the tactile response department. For large areas, multiple subs is the way to go. Start with two and add on later. DIY is way less cost and a better performace/cost ratio.

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If...at all feasible go DIY....if you're open to that idea....I certainly am not! Of the 3 options you mentioned...I find the PB13U very intriguing with the hope of adding another one down the road?? I know PSA is offering free shipping trails but I am not certain that includes Canada...if it does, I would be inclined to go with dual XV15se > PB2000 or a single PB13U...I recently switched over to the newer SE units...it was an noticeable improvement. I would now flip a coin comparing my XS30se with the SB13u.


If you reside in the GTA...you're more than welcomed to come over...


You might be able to get (2) xv15se for roughly the same cost as one PB13U...even up here...
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Out of those options...dual XV15se. If you are willing to go DIY then by all means go thst route. There is a member(Chalugadp) that builds custom enclosures for a rasonable cost and he is in Canada. I would be looking at the minimum 2 SI 18's in large slot vent enclosures tuned around 15hz. Behringer Inuke DSP series amps are very popular on the cheap. Something like the 3000dsp would work well.
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I would definitely go for dual XV15se's from that list, otherwise DIY for sure. Is it possible you could place the subs nearfield to increase the tactile feel your seeking?
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None of the above. You have a large space located in a basement. By nature, basement are very dead spaces for subwoofers. All the subs you mentioned are good subs, but to get a good tactile respone, 4 sub is most likely needed. For the cost of the mentioned sub, Get 4 Stereo Integrity 18 in. subwoofer driver and build your own in 1-2 day. A second option is Part Express 18 in. Dayton sub kit. You just need glue and clamps for the most part.

I am in a larger basement and use 4 subs with a total of six 18 in. driver to get the job done. I tried two and it was loud enough but, lacking in the tactile response department. For large areas, multiple subs is the way to go. Start with two and add on later. DIY is way less cost and a better performace/cost ratio.
Hi Derrickdj1,

Thanks for your advice. I wish I had the know how, on how to build my own sub. If I tried , it would probably fall apart lol . I live in Toronto, Canada. Maybe I will look into seeing if I can pay somebody
to actually build me a sub.

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If...at all feasible go DIY....if you're open to that idea....I certainly am not! Of the 3 options you mentioned...I find the PB13U very intriguing with the hope of adding another one down the road?? I know PSA is offering free shipping trails but I am not certain that includes Canada...if it does, I would be inclined to go with dual XV15se > PB2000 or a single PB13U...I recently switched over to the newer SE units...it was an noticeable improvement. I would now flip a coin comparing my XS30se with the SB13u.


If you reside in the GTA...you're more than welcomed to come over...


You might be able to get (2) xv15se for roughly the same cost as one PB13U...even up here...
Hi Billy,

Yes , I would love to build my own but I have no experience, so I would rather just pay for a sub that's
already made lol. I can get a single PSA shipped here for around $1200 Canadian , I could be wrong with that estimate.

Yes, thanks, I may take you up on that offer to check your subs. Actually I live in Scarborough

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Out of those options...dual XV15se. If you are willing to go DIY then by all means go thst route. There is a member(Chalugadp) that builds custom enclosures for a rasonable cost and he is in Canada. I would be looking at the minimum 2 SI 18's in large slot vent enclosures tuned around 15hz. Behringer Inuke DSP series amps are very popular on the cheap. Something like the 3000dsp would work well.
Hi Basshead,

Thanks for your advice. Do you know where member(Chalugadp) is located in Canada? I wouldn't feel comfortable building my own sub. I would pay someone to do it .
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I would definitely go for dual XV15se's from that list, otherwise DIY for sure. Is it possible you could place the subs nearfield to increase the tactile feel your seeking?
Hi JT78681,

Thanks for your advice. I can't do DIY. I wish I had the experience to build my own.

Ya maybe dual PSA XV15se's . I would have to figure out exactly how much it would cost to ship both subs to Canada. PSA XV15se is listed at $899 US for a single unit. I have never ordered anything from the States.

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Hi JT78681,

Thanks for your advice. I can't do DIY. I wish I had the experience to build my own.

Ya maybe dual PSA XV15se's . I would have to figure out exactly how much it would cost to ship both subs to Canada. PSA XV15se is listed at $899 US for a single unit. I have never ordered anything from the States.

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Go to the PSA website and wait until the chat portion comes up and you'll most likely get Tom. I was in the same mentality as you about a month and a half ago that PSA wasn't even a consideration. After shipping and exchange rate it came to approx $1200 total all in. Love my XV15SE.
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Hi JT78681,

Thanks for your advice. I can't do DIY. I wish I had the experience to build my own.

Ya maybe dual PSA XV15se's . I would have to figure out exactly how much it would cost to ship both subs to Canada. PSA XV15se is listed at $899 US for a single unit. I have never ordered anything from the States.

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Go to the website for PSA, there is usually a pop up box for questions. Tom V is very quick to get back to questions, as you could e-mail him on the PSA subwoofer forum as well. They are great to work with.

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Go to the PSA website and wait until the chat portion comes up and you'll most likely get Tom. I was in the same mentality as you about a month and a half ago that PSA wasn't even a consideration. After shipping and exchange rate it came to approx $1200 total all in. Love my XV15SE.
Hi Magibeg,


So basically one SVS PB200 would cost me $1000 pick up locally, and one PSA XV15SE would cost me 1200 shipped from the States. Paying the extra 200 for the PSA doesn't bother me, as long as its worth doing so.

Also , I will check the PSA website chat portion you mentioned.

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Go to the website for PSA, there is usually a pop up box for questions. Tom V is very quick to get back to questions, as you could e-mail him on the PSA subwoofer forum as well. They are great to work with.
Hey lizrussspike,

I will do that for sure, thanks !
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Hi Billy,

Yes , I would love to build my own but I have no experience, so I would rather just pay for a sub that's
already made lol. I can get a single PSA shipped here for around $1200 Canadian , I could be wrong with that estimate.

Yes, thanks, I may take you up on that offer to check your subs. Actually I live in Scarborough
A dual XV15se package would be about $1840(ish) plus any applicable sales tax to that area.

We have been shipping quite a bit to Canada lately (5-10 a week) and we just renegotiated our fedex rates and got some nice discounts.

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I have an xv15se and im very happy with it. I also had the opportunity to listen to a pb2000 as well. Its a great sub mind you, we felt the xv15se did outdo the pb2000 by a margin. not a huge one but enough for the owner of the pb2000 to seriously consider selling it and getting an xv15
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Two Rythmik FV 15's would give you the most output below 20 Hz.

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Two Rythmik FV 15's would give you the most ouput below 20 Hz.

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What about dual svs pc12+'s?

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Hi Basshead,

Thanks for your advice. Do you know where member(Chalugadp) is located in Canada? I wouldn't feel comfortable building my own sub. I would pay someone to do it .
I think Vancouver....here is a thread of his.


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A dual XV15se package would be about $1840(ish) plus any applicable sales tax to that area.

We have been shipping quite a bit to Canada lately (5-10 a week) and we just renegotiated our fedex rates and got some nice discounts.

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Thanks for that . I will email you

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I have an xv15se and im very happy with it. I also had the opportunity to listen to a pb2000 as well. Its a great sub mind you, we felt the xv15se did outdo the pb2000 by a margin. not a huge one but enough for the owner of the pb2000 to seriously consider selling it and getting an xv15
Thats very informative. That gives me great info.

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Two Rythmik FV 15's would give you the most output below 20 Hz.
Thanks. I will have to see if they ship to Candada, and I will read up on that sub

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What about dual svs pc12+'s?
Hmmm good advice . I will look into that . Thank you

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Thanks , I read a bit . He sure knows his stuff. Maybe I can contact him and discusss if he could build me a sub.
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