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List of modest priced subwoofers ($301-$700)

An adjunct to my thread titled List of budget subwoofers, I now bring you - by popular demand - a list of modest priced subwoofers. This one will contain products that fall within the range of $301-$700. Originally I was going to use $600 for the upper end, making it essentially a $300 span to coincide with the Budget thread, but realistically speaking there are very few subwoofers costing between $301-$499 so that's almost dead space. If I capped it at $600 that means the topic would have effectively included products in the $500-$600 range only, so not particularly useful.

Most of the rules used in the $300 thread apply here, however a few things will change.

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  • The price quoted must be what you can reasonably expect to get the sub for, which may not necessarily be the same as the suggested retail price. In other words, what most people can rightly assume to pay without the need to wait for some clearance sale or restricted holiday event.
  • The driver can be no smaller than 8". There probably aren't too many of those in this price range to begin with, so I doubt there's anything with smaller driver(s). But if they do exist they won't be listed here because it's hard to quantify those as subwoofers.

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  • There will be no separate discussion thread for this topic. I still think that's the best approach in order to keep this one from becoming unwieldy - the Budget version is currently at 64 pages and contains almost 2000 posts, which can be overwhelming to look through - but that concept wasn't really adhered to so the discussion thread lost some context. You can now use this thread to suggest additions and discuss the units listed. However, if you have a specific need that turns into a lot of back and forth proper forum etiquette dictates you start a new thread dedicated to your unique set of circumstances. A couple of questions about your situation is good, a couple of pages is not.
  • No more Purchase links. That turned into a time-consuming PITA for me. google is your friend.
  • Due to the change above I will now include suggested retail price next to each unit. That will allow you to focus strictly on the subwoofers which fall within your budget.


Mod's, if you feel this one warrants a sticky as well please fell free to do so. And away we go...


Aperion Audio
* Bravus II 10D $699

Axiom
* EP 125 v4 $485
* EP 175 v4 $685

BIC
* PL-200 II

Boston Acoustics
* ASW 250 $350
* ASW 650 $500

Cambridge Audio
* Minx X201 $400
* Minx X301 $500

Definitive Technology
* ProSub 800 $400
* ProSub 1000 $500
* SuperCube 2000 $600

Earthquake Sound
* CP8 Coach Potato $399
* FF-10 $449
* FF-12 $699

Elac
* S10EQ $500
* S12EQ $700

Emotiva
* BasX S12 $399
* Airmotiv S10 $549
* Airmotiv S12 $699

EMPTek (all of these are RBH Sound models sold by EMPTek)
* I-12 $499
* I-12/e $699
* S8 $485
* S10 $545
* S12 $700

Home Theater Direct (HTD) (price depends upon configuration)
* Level TWO $359-$399
* Level THREE $439-$479

HSU Research (all prices include shipping)
* VTF-1 MK3 $501
* VTF-2 MK5 $629

Infinity
* Reference SUB R10 $400
* Reference SUB R12 $500

JBL
* Studio 150P $440
* Studio SUB 250P $450
* Studio SUB 260P $600
* SUB 550P $600

Klipsch
* R-110SW $549
* R-112SW $649

Martin Logan
* Dynamo 500 $495
* Dynamo 700 $695

Orb Audio
* subONE $399

Pioneer
* SW-10 $350

Polk
* PSW125 $400
* DSW PRO 440 wi $430
* DSW PRO 550 wi $540
* DSW PRO 660 wi $650

Premier Acoustic
* PA10 $499
* PA120 $599

PSB
* SubSeries 125 $450
* SubSeries 200 $650

RBH Sound
* I-12 $499
* I-12/e $699
* S-8 $485
* S-10 $545
* S-12 $700

RSL
* Speedwoofer 10S $399

Rythmik Audio
* L12 $569
* LV12R $569
* LVX12 $699 (subject to change; product description lists price as $799)

Sonance
* SUB 8-100 $550

Sunfire
* SDS-12 $600

SVS
* SB1000 $499
* PB-1000 $499
* SB-2000 $699

Velodyne
* EQ-Max 8 $459
* EQ-Max 10 $699
* Impact 10 $399
* Impact 12 $499

Yamaha
* NS-SW200 $400
* NS-SW300 $500
* YST-SW315 $350

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I seeded this thread with a few off-the-top-of-my-head models, just to get the ball rolling. More to come of course.

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First "found a deal" post...

JBL 560P $800. Use promo code SUBDEAL and save 55%, so $360 instead.

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If you make it the $301-$703.77 thread you could include the Outlaw Ultra-X12.
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If you make it the $301-$703.77 thread you could include the Outlaw Ultra-X12.
I was about to mention that hah!

Great work Jim, I think this will be a valuable resource that builds on the budget sub thread.

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Rhythmik's are servo?
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Yes, Rythmik subs are servo-equipped.
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Great list, with plenty of excellent options that are very affordable while still offering good quality. IMO the Rythmik LV12R and HSU VTF2 MK4 stand out. With numerous others battling it out in the second tier. Of course there are so many variables as to which is the best for each person and what they need/want in a sub.

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Jim - not that I am familiar with PSB's subs, but I believe you have a few to add from them based on Crutchfield pricing:

PSB SubSeries 125 - $449
PSB SubSeries 200 - $649

What am I missing with Outlaw's X12 at $639 being left off the list?

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Jim - not that I am familiar with PSB's subs, but I believe you have a few to add from them based on Crutchfield pricing:

PSB SubSeries 125 - $449
PSB SubSeries 200 - $649
Crutchfield would qualify as a legitimate pricing source. Given the prices don't appear to be tied to a sale I can use those as reference. I'll add these.


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Does that include shipping? A few others mentioned the X12, but its price was over $700. It looks like the website is showing $639 so if that's delivered I can add that one as well.

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Why does it need to include shipping? For someone like me I'd have to drive two hours each way to even look at a choice in sub aside what the local BB offers (which is almost nothing and that's nearly an hour each way).

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I bought a good, used Rhythmik F12G on Audiogon to match with my Magnepan MMGs for music listening. I purchased it mainly for its fast musicality and high degree of adjustability. It has been a perfect match for the Maggies.
They are truly incredible subs and I highly recommend them.
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Why does it need to include shipping? For someone like me I'd have to drive two hours each way to even look at a choice in sub aside what the local BB offers (which is almost nothing and that's nearly an hour each way).
So there are no surprises when someone hits the "buy" button. HSU is often derided for having separate shipping costs, so with those I added it on top of the list price. That way, should someone want to purchase one based upon this list they won't wonder why it ends up costing more than they anticipated.
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So there are no surprises when someone hits the "buy" button. HSU is often derided for having separate shipping costs, so with those I added it on top of the list price. That way, should someone want to purchase one based upon this list they won't wonder why it ends up costing more than they anticipated.
Yeah, I get that part and I do understand. Some people apparently believe in free shipping or that ID retail prices should automatically include such when they can't be bothered to read (when the B&M stuff doesn't include delivery)....costs me extra to go get it anyways even if I were interested in any of the B&M subs (or ID at this stage)....so as far as I'm concerned $599 is a better limit than $699 for a B&M sub....just sayin' it goes both ways.....I know I'm in the minority not being near a ginormous metro area with limited inherent pickup costs....
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Yeah, I get that part and I do understand. Some people apparently believe in free shipping or that ID retail prices should automatically include such when they can't be bothered to read (when the B&M stuff doesn't include delivery)....costs me extra to go get it anyways even if I were interested in any of the B&M subs (or ID at this stage)....so as far as I'm concerned $599 is a better limit than $699 for a B&M sub....just sayin' it goes both ways.....I know I'm in the minority not being near a ginormous metro area with limited inherent pickup costs....
And sales tax in Texas for me to go pick one up from Rythmik. ;-/
Of course that would be the case for any B&M purchase and Amazon for me also.
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And sales tax in Texas for me to go pick one up from Rythmik. ;-/
Of course that would be the case for any B&M purchase and Amazon for me also.
Rythmik is in Texas?
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Yes, Austin

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/contact.html

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Yeah, I get that part and I do understand. Some people apparently believe in free shipping or that ID retail prices should automatically include such when they can't be bothered to read (when the B&M stuff doesn't include delivery)....costs me extra to go get it anyways even if I were interested in any of the B&M subs (or ID at this stage)....so as far as I'm concerned $599 is a better limit than $699 for a B&M sub....just sayin' it goes both ways.....I know I'm in the minority not being near a ginormous metro area with limited inherent pickup costs....
Good point; people too frequently believe they aren't paying for shipping when nothing could be further from the truth (which is, in large part, why I'm including it as well). I often here that mentioned as an advantage for products that offer 'free' return shipping, as though the company is going to eat it. Some - like SVS and PSA for example - probably have such low return rates they can afford to gamble because they're unlikely to get more then a handful of stuff back (and I would guess that's primarily from those who are doing a bit window shopping). In the end though the consumer pays for shipping; somehow, someway. Be it ID or B&M, it's inevitable.


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And sales tax in Texas for me to go pick one up from Rythmik. ;-/
I have to draw the line someplace.
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Good point; people too frequently believe they aren't paying for shipping when nothing could be further from the truth (which is, in large part, why I'm including it as well). I often here that mentioned as an advantage for products that offer 'free' return shipping, as though the company is going to eat it. Some - like SVS and PSA for example - probably have such low return rates they can afford to gamble because they're unlikely to get more then a handful of stuff back (and I would guess that's primarily from those who are doing a bit window shopping). In the end though the consumer pays for shipping; somehow, someway. Be it ID or B&M, it's inevitable.




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How does this work exactly? I found some that are kits, others that are bundles, and some that seem to be sale priced but not disclosed as such, just shown with what appears to be the MSRP crossed out? Also Amazon offers free shipping on many items but not all, how is that counted?

parts express:
Dayton Audio RS1200K 12" Reference Series 500 Watt Subwoofer Kit $599.59 +s&h
Dayton SA230/2VS8 Dual Subwoofer System Amplifier Bundle $423.86 +s&h
amazon:
Mackie THUMP18S 1200-Watt 18-Inch Powered Subwoofer $699.99
KEF Q400B Front Firing Powerful Subwoofer - Black Ash (Single) by KEF $699.99
KEF T2 Subwoofer - Black by KEF $699.99
KEF Q400W Front Firing Powerful Subwoofer - European Walnut (Single) by KEF $699.99
JBL PS1400 Powered Subwoofer Performance Series SoftBeech Color by JBL $699.95

There seem to be tons of '$699.99 subwoofers' on Amazon today and they are all a mix of free/nonfree shipping and MSRP crossed out/undisclosed. This might turn out to be a rather long list of models eventually.

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JBL CONTROL-40CS/T 200W 8" Long-Throw In-Ceiling Subwoofer by JBL $615.00

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How does this work exactly? I found some that are kits, others that are bundles, and some that seem to be sale priced but not disclosed as such, just shown with what appears to be the MSRP crossed out? Also Amazon offers free shipping on many items but not all, how is that counted?

parts express:
Dayton Audio RS1200K 12" Reference Series 500 Watt Subwoofer Kit $599.59 +s&h
Dayton SA230/2VS8 Dual Subwoofer System Amplifier Bundle $423.86 +s&h
amazon:
Mackie THUMP18S 1200-Watt 18-Inch Powered Subwoofer $699.99
KEF Q400B Front Firing Powerful Subwoofer - Black Ash (Single) by KEF $699.99
KEF T2 Subwoofer - Black by KEF $699.99
KEF Q400W Front Firing Powerful Subwoofer - European Walnut (Single) by KEF $699.99
JBL PS1400 Powered Subwoofer Performance Series SoftBeech Color by JBL $699.95
This thread is geared toward manufactured subwoofers that could be used in the typical HT or 2 channel system. As such, I didn't include any kits or DIY-related products. I also don't have any PA type of equipment.

Whenever possible I use the manufacturers website for pricing information. For companies who don't post anything I do a bit of searching on the web and try to get a feel for what the average selling price is. It's not an ideal method, because in a sense there are two different pricing models being employed, but if the manufacturer doesn't list anything there's little else I can do.

The KEF Q400w is not on KEF's website, nor is the PS1400 on JBL's, so I'll have to skip those. I did find the Q400b and T2 on KEF's website though, so I'll add them. Thanks for the info!


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There seem to be tons of '$699.99 subwoofers' on Amazon today and they are all a mix of free/nonfree shipping and MSRP crossed out/undisclosed. This might turn out to be a rather long list of models eventually.
This is one of the main reasons I dropped the 'purchase' links from my Budget Subwoofers thread. It became a nightmare of updates for me - and took a tremendous amount of time due to all the research I had to perform - making it such that I tended to fall behind.


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Thanks.I'm in Texas is the reason I was curious and my Rythmik knowledge as a company is limited even though I know what a servo sub design is. People forget how massive Texas is sometimes and most times one side of the state has no idea what the other side is doing. Now I know.
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Oops! Sorry. Wasn't trying to get your forum off track with the question.Yeah, it would be nice if I could just read a little in AVS. That would have saved some of the money I've spent over the years on my glasses prescriptions, Lol. No, I'm a long time(years) AVS reader and it's nice to get a response from Jim Wilson. I'm a big fan. This was just a location gap in my memory banks. Embarrassingly enough I even live in Texas and I didn't know this but it's a big state. Thanks again for all your hard work. It's appreciated.
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Good point; people too frequently believe they aren't paying for shipping when nothing could be further from the truth (which is, in large part, why I'm including it as well). I often here that mentioned as an advantage for products that offer 'free' return shipping, as though the company is going to eat it. Some - like SVS and PSA for example - probably have such low return rates they can afford to gamble because they're unlikely to get more then a handful of stuff back (and I would guess that's primarily from those who are doing a bit window shopping). In the end though the consumer pays for shipping; somehow, someway. Be it ID or B&M, it's inevitable.
Yes indeed. However, when I purchased my SVS SB13-Ultra and PSA XS30 subwoofers (about 3 years ago) neither company had free return shipping. SVS added that perk while I was on my trial period. PSA ran a summer special the following year that included free return shipping on all but their most massive subs (which they decided was a wise move and kept this policy). Neither company raised prices, so in essence, free return shipping was actually free in those cases.

As you indicated, the returns that both SVS and PSA do get are obviously not significant enough to hurt their bottom line, so they kept the same pricing. While people are correct that shipping free to the customer has already been built into their pricing structure, return shipping may or may not have already been factored in, depending upon the company.

Hsu’s policy has not changed over the years (at least the years that I’ve looked at the company), and is rather unique nowadays. But even adding shipping costs, their prices are extremely competitive. I consider them a bargain (as do you). It’s only when one returns their sub (for whatever reason), that their shipping policy effects the consumer.

Any time a consumer can test out a sub in their home and have no fear of the high cost to return that sub, it’s better for the consumer. It’s also better for the company, because they are getting much higher sales because of this "no hassle free trial period" policy. Kind of a win-win.

Each company must determine what is right for them in this highly competitive market. Five-year warranties were NOT the norm. Competing companies that had one- and two-year warranties have now up their warranties to two, three and even five years. Isn’t competition wonderful?

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