I was waiting to see the results of Marc's GTG before deciding. I am upgrading from a SVS PC12 NSD, so this will be a huge upgrade. I am currently running a Denon X4300H.
As you can see all of them are ported and then out of left field came in the dual Seaton Submersive HP at a value I had to consider it and based on my room probably will be the best choice. Thanks to @Marc Alexander for introducing me to Seaton, which I was not considering. I would also like to acknowledge guidance from @mthomas47 and [MENTION=8477881]basshead81 on options that I have been throwing out on and off. I intended to start a thread to get opinions from folks as well as wait for the SoCal GTG results, however talking to Mark Seaton, who was outstanding and detailed in trying to understand my room and goals, offered me a deal on Submersive HP I could not pass up.
They should be here end of next week in Black Maple...
My room is a 2100 cuft dedicated media room on a suspend wood floor. I can't wait to see what 2 2400 watt amps with 4 15 inch woofers do in that room. I know Mark is well known for his subs and is considered a genius so I am sure I am going to be blown away.
Very excited. They look very nice and should integrate well in the room.
Here is a link to my room pics for those interested.
Yeah. The room is on second floor so have a suspended wood floor. I was really after chest crushing bass and the output from these two should be crazy!
Thanks my friend. Appreciate all the help with REW, that will definitely come in handy. Mark will help me place and set them up. With REW I can give him data to work with. You remember I mentioned the subs listed when we spoke. Well things changed. Lol. Delivery is likely next week now.
Thanks my friend. Appreciate all the help with REW, that will definitely come in handy. Mark will help me place and set them up. With REW I can give him data to work with. You remember I mentioned the subs listed when we spoke. Well things changed. Lol. Delivery is likely next week now.
Nice choice your going to really enjoy them. I have owned each of Mark's subs and have a particular affinity for the dual opposed design. They are going to pound!
I love your built in media rack! Those 110's look so small, even though I know how large they are in person, but I guess you already upgraded to 210s. 😃
Any reason you went with two Submersive HP instead of the Submersive HP+ Master and Slave unit? Just browsed through the latest pricing and specs and seems like a better deal for the master/slave units, if performance is the same.
The only thing that rack prevents is putting a sub right in the corner in the front since it is wall to wall. Yes and I do have 210s now sitting in the 110s place. Went with two powered units to allow placement flexibility which Mark stressed is going to be key to get the best impact from these subs. From what I am hearing from folks on this forum I might actually hurt myself listening to them. [emoji16]Fantastic
Good question. In talking with imureh and seeing pictures of his room, we see the cabinet at the front of the room limits front wall placement of subwoofers, and he already found the rear left corner delivered much better deep bass to the listening position. I expect the best results will come from combining front and rear locations, with one sub most likely at the front right near the 1/4 depth of the room in front of the cabinet, and the second in the rear left corner where his current SVS lives. In a smaller room like this with limited placement options, the flexibility of separately delayed signals will be useful, and with the sale offered on the pair of powered units it was well worth a few hundred dollars to have ultimate flexibility.
It looks like imureh's new subs should be delivered this Friday.
The only thing that rack prevents is putting a sub right in the corner in the front since it is wall to wall. Yes and I do have 210s now sitting in the 110s place. Went with two powered units to allow placement flexibility which Mark stressed is going to be key to get the best impact from these subs. From what I am hearing from folks on this forum I might actually hurt myself listening to them. [emoji16]Fantastic
Funny how everyone gets excited for others , if you were to read this thread not knowing what it was about , you might have thought someone just had a baby or won the lotto lol!!! Nah , he just dropped a couple grand on some speakers!!! Most people who dont understand would be like WTF!!!........So anyway , Congrats on the newborns
Just saw this thread. As I said via our messages back and forth, I can't see any way you would come away disappointed with the HPs. It's definitely the way to go if you have the budget imo.
Here are some pics based on the location I though @Mark Seaton wanted to test first. Will send him the pics as well. Let me know what you all think. @Marc Alexander
Front one first and then rear. The front is on front right and rear at rear left.
Nice. Looks like that can work for you. It's all about what is practical in your room and how the rew measurements compare between your different placement options/considerations (before running audyssey or any eq). That looks like that is likely a top layout from a practical room placement perspective.
The only option I would think about is having both up front. But this is ideal if it works. So you would suggest to run REW before running Audyssey XT32 for all locations and then once location is landed then run Audyssey?. I have Denon X4300H.
Yes. You ideally would want the best response possible before audyssey so there is less for it to have to correct/eq. Try the two layouts and see if there is a big difference or not between your subs' responses.
Here is the first sweep with one sub in front right and the other in left rear. Have some serious dips especially starting at 50hz. Not sure why but did not expect the results to be this poor. These are with Audyssey off. Will have to play more tomorrow.
It's not as bad as it looks (almost always appears worse than it is). How does it sound and feel? How is your post Audyssey response?
You can likely fix those narrow dips with a small change in placement, driver orientation, or timing. For the best resolution of bass on your graph, change the Y-axis so you have about 5dB above and below the highest and lowest point and only run the X-axis up to 200-300Hz max, and drop the minimum down to 10hz.
A room mode at 40-50Hz is quite common, so you can pull that down with EQ, and also fix the cancellations at 60Hz with phase adjustments. I bet those subs have some solid infrasonic output in your room!
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