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i have a question for the guys using a subdude.

since it's 15" in width (or length), how do you use it with subwoofers wider than 15"?

does that mean the subwoofer is wider than the subdude? do you guys have pics?


You could also use the GRAMMA or Great GRAMMA if you need something bigger.

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I have a thin layer of foam between the laminate flooring and the concrete subfloor. Would I benefit from a Subdude? I wanted to put one under my MBM-12 if its going to make a difference.
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[quote=bori;14341052]I have a thin layer of foam between the laminate flooring and the concrete subfloor. Would I benefit from a Subdude? I wanted to put one under my MBM-12 if its going to make a difference.[/QUOTE

I have subdude's under all my subs - two HSU 3.3's & two MBM-12's.

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I have a thin layer of foam between the laminate flooring and the concrete subfloor. Would I benefit from a Subdude? I wanted to put one under my MBM-12 if its going to make a difference.[/QUOTE

I have subdude's under all my subs - two HSU 3.3's & two MBM-12's.

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What type of flooring do you have?
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I have a thin layer of foam between the laminate flooring and the concrete subfloor. Would I benefit from a Subdude? I wanted to put one under my MBM-12 if its going to make a difference.

It is going to make a difference the only question is how much. Doesn't cost much to buy and return if you don't feel it is worth it. (You will only pay for return shipping at Sweetwater)
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What type of flooring do you have?

Laminate hardwood.

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Who can scientifically give an theory behind the benefit of subdude and great gramma?
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I really could not say for sure I noticed extra performance. maybe. My subs were sitting on carpet over concrete, it does seem logical it should be better with my circumstance.
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To those of you who own a gramma or subdude, do you think that you could get two functional "subdude"s if it were cut in half? My sub is almost exactly half the size and I thought I could cut one in half, use half, and sell the other to someone who has the same sub as I do .

Has anyone ever done this? What was the result?
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Well I ordered the gramma last night and it has already shipped today. I should have it by Saturday. I have an Epik Castle and will give my before/after impressions this weekend and take some pictures. I must say tho, I'm extremely satisfied with the Castle as it is now and don't see how it can get any better. Welll see tho!
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To those of you who own a gramma or subdude, do you think that you could get two functional "subdude"s if it were cut in half?

I have a Gramma and have seen the Subdude, and I don't know why you wouldn't be able to cut a Gramma in half. You'd have two unfinished edges to patch up (or hide against a wall), since the whole thing is normally carpet-covered. Also one person would get the carrying handle and the other wouldn't

I'd work out the other-buyer thing ahead of time though since it may be hard to sell a butchered Gramma. Or just build your own, you can get some pieces of Auralex Platfoam if you really want to mimic the Gramma.

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To those of you who own a gramma or subdude, do you think that you could get two functional "subdude"s if it were cut in half? My sub is almost exactly half the size and I thought I could cut one in half, use half, and sell the other to someone who has the same sub as I do .

Has anyone ever done this? What was the result?


I'm curious what kind of sub you have that would only require half a subdude. A subdude is only 15" by 15". My Valor overhangs mine by about 3" on the front and the rear.

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Wow! Just got a GRAMMA for my Epik Castle. It is almost perfect size and is the best $50 I spent on audio ever. The annoying buzz I used to get from nearby windows, table, etc. is gone! What an excellent product!
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Laminate hardwood.

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Laminate over concrete?
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I said the exact same thing earlier, best $50 you'll ever spend on an accessory. I'm sure many of those questioning it's ability to improve the sound have spent more than $50 on tweeks that were inaudible. The simple fact that there are no resonant vibrations in the floor, walls , and windows has a profound effect on the sound. If you have a concrete floor you probably don't need a SubDude but if you have a house like mine the difference is night and day.
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I said the exact same thing earlier, best $50 you'll ever spend on an accessory. I'm sure many of those questioning it's ability to improve the sound have spent more than $50 on tweeks that were inaudible. The simple fact that there are no resonant vibrations in the floor, walls , and windows has a profound effect on the sound. If you have a concrete floor you probably don't need a SubDude but if you have a house like mine the difference is night and day.

I have HW on concrete slab and I can tell a difference in the MBMs. For me it cleans up the bass, takes away the boomyness and a tactile sound.
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Well I got my Gramma today also and have been watching several of my favorite scenes and must agree that it's the very best 50 bucks I've spent on my home audio. It has increased the output from my Castle and really cleaned up the bass giving it even more punch! Thanks Sweetwater for the excellent product and even better customer service!
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I have HW on concrete slab and I can tell a difference in the MBMs. For me it cleans up the bass, takes away the boomyness and a tactile sound.

I have a mbm-12 and just curious what do you mean by tactile sound. Im very interested in this subdude thing

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Well I got my Gramma today also and have been watching several of my favorite scenes and must agree that it's the very best 50 bucks I've spent on my home audio. It has increased the output from my Castle and really cleaned up the bass giving it even more punch! Thanks Sweetwater for the excellent product and even better customer service!

You're right, all companies should strive to deliver the kind of service that Sweetwater provides. Their customer service and follow up was exceptional.
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I have a mbm-12 and just curious what do you mean by tactile sound. Im very interested in this subdude thing

Tactile sound is the physical vibration that the sub is sending through the floor it is sitting on. Tactile vibration is the same principal that Buttkickers work on. They imitate bass by vibrating. The biggest difference is your sub is designed to create bass by moving air so any tactile vibrations usually aren't desired and make the sub sound muddy.
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Tactile sound is the physical vibration that the sub is sending through the floor it is sitting on. Tactile vibration is the same principal that Buttkickers work on. They imitate bass by vibrating. The biggest difference is your sub is designed to create bass by moving air so any tactile vibrations usually aren't desired and make the sub sound muddy.

"Tactile sound" does not necessarily refer to physical vibrations. 15Hz is felt, tactily.

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Do they really weight 45lbs? And what are its dimensions? The Sweetwater site says 15" x 15" but it doesn't 'look' square in the pictures.

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Auralex =23" L x 15" W x 2.75" high
Subdude =15x15 per Sweetwater site
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Well I got my Gramma today also and have been watching several of my favorite scenes and must agree that it's the very best 50 bucks I've spent on my home audio. It has increased the output from my Castle and really cleaned up the bass giving it even more punch! Thanks Sweetwater for the excellent product and even better customer service!

Has my interest now. What do you mean increased output?
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I said the exact same thing earlier, best $50 you'll ever spend on an accessory. I'm sure many of those questioning it's ability to improve the sound have spent more than $50 on tweeks that were inaudible. The simple fact that there are no resonant vibrations in the floor, walls , and windows has a profound effect on the sound. If you have a concrete floor you probably don't need a SubDude but if you have a house like mine the difference is night and day.

So pretty much if you use a subdude/gramma on 12"x12" tile, that is like sitting on concrete when properly placed. The gramma will not be beneficial?
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Auralex =23" L x 15" W x 2.75" high
Subdude =15x15 per Sweetwater site



So how big is it? Are you saying the Sweetwater site is incorrect or are you showing me the measurements for the Auralex Gramma?

The Subdude is 45lbs and the Gramma, although bigger, is only 35lbs (as best I can tell from the sources I have found), BTW.

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Whhhhaaaat are you smoking err reading?
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/deta.../specs/#anchor

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SubDude
Dunno on the weight but I doubt they are that heavy?? A full sheet of ply wood is 45lbs depending on type.????
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Whhhhaaaat are you smoking err reading?
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/deta.../specs/#anchor

You said "Auralex", not Gramma. Both products are made by Auralex.

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Dunno on the weight but I doubt they are that heavy?? A full sheet of ply wood is 45lbs depending on type.????

45lbs for the Subdude and 35lbs for the Gramma is what I have been able to find online.

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Hmmm maybe I should stop smoking . Dunno on weight I can't find it.
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