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I just ordered the Auralex SUBDUDE HD, do you think it will fit my Klipsch RW-12D?, the port is on the front bottom of the sub.

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I just ordered the Auralex SUBDUDE HD, do you think it will fit my Klipsch RW-12D?, the port is on the front bottom of the sub.

What if your Klipsch were on the floor?

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I'm sorry i don't understand your question

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I'm sorry i don't understand your question

I don't think I understand yours, either Can you re-word it? What are you asking?

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right now the sub is on the floor, which is tile, so i was asking if the rw-12d will fit on the subdude?

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right now the sub is on the floor, which is tile, so i was asking if the rw-12d will fit on the subdude?

Oh... I guess the port's position wasn't the relevant fact of your question. Well, the SubDude (that you've already bought... without looking at its measurements?) measures 15"x15"; so if the feet of the RW-12D are no more than 15"x15" apart, then the SubDude fits it. Mind you, if they're exactly 15" apart, then it may be an extremely precarious fit.

It's fine if your sub's walls overlap the MDF platform. I use a SubDude, and it's a cylinder with a 16.75" diameter. But the four feet are all within the boundaries of the SubDude so it works great.

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Oh... I guess the port's position wasn't the relevant fact of your question. Well, the SubDude (that you've already bought... without looking at its measurements?) measures 15"x15"; so if the feet of the RW-12D are no more than 15"x15" apart, then the SubDude fits it. Mind you, if they're exactly 15" apart, then it may be an extremely precarious fit.

It's fine if your sub's walls overlap the MDF platform. I use a SubDude, and it's a cylinder with a 16.75" diameter. But the four feet are all within the boundaries of the SubDude so it works great.

OK thanks allot for your comment, actually the port was a part of my question but i didn't type it in, since its a down firing port does that have to be on the platform to reduce vibrations? if the port is not on the Subdude will the air from it cause the sub to vibrate the floor, and other things. THANKS

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Well the feet are out of the boundaries, so i might have to use this one for the Klipsch promedia 2.1 sub, and get the GRAMMA, as its bigger, but ugly.

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Since you have the Subdude, how did it help with the sound/vibrations of the sub?

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I Just recieved a FV12 ,and though the size is bigger than the subdude.
I read on audioholics that as long as the the sub does not have a downward facing driver you would not need the great gramma. Does anyone have experience with a larger front or side facing sub on a subdude?
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Since you have the Subdude, how did it help with the sound/vibrations of the sub?

I had no rattles in my room, so I can't speak to its ability to quell those. With no measuring equipment I feel like my opinion isn't much, but the bass sounds, to my ear, tighter and more plosive. Make no mistake--it still slams the room. There are still floor vibrations and if I weren't careful I'd still get an unfriendly visit from downstairs neighbors, or worse. It's not a license to kill Just a nice little bump to sound quality and a reduction in room-shimmy. Your armoire full of Capodimonte porcelain figurines will be a little bit safer.


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I Just recieved a FV12 ,and though the size is bigger than the subdude.
I read on audioholics that as long as the the sub does not have a downward facing driver you would not need the great gramma. Does anyone have experience with a larger front or side facing sub on a subdude?

I think you'll find that most people don't agree that driver orientation has much to do with it. Link?

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Silly question but would it be better to just raise the sub by the legs instead of having an mdf board? As far as SQ, I thought it was better to have down firing subs raised higher but it seems with the subdude that you are countering the raising by having that mdf board in between. Still the same height off the "ground"? I'm sure it still helps with the vibrations though!

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Silly question but would it be better to just raise the sub by the legs instead of having an mdf board? As far as SQ, I thought it was better to have down firing subs raised higher but it seems with the subdude that you are countering the raising by having that mdf board in between. Still the same height off the "ground"? I'm sure it still helps with the vibrations though!

The SQ difference (ymmv) is solely from reducing or eliminating the cabinet to floor resonances you might otherwise hear. The idea is simply to decouple the sub, not to change room modes or anything.
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Just got my Subdude HD, and it didn't fit under my A2-300.. too small.

I had some extra rubber isolators from a buttkicker install. I put the isolators at the corners of the Subdude, and lined up the Subdude under the sub. Ghetto, yes.. but it seems to work well.

The rubber alone would probably do a good job of decoupling without the Subdude. I haven't tested everything fully yet, but my closet door no longer rattles during a loud LFE moment. I'm going to test with/without subdude plus rubber isolators to see if there is a big difference.
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eD has their own isolation pad for your sub, if you wanted to return the subdude hd.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=950

I'd rather DIY my own, but that will fit for sure.
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I need help. Yesterday I have a call from my neighbour about the vibrations from my sub. I need a solution to fix that, so I dont´t have to turn the sub down. My sub is Def tech Prosub 800(One 8" woofer pressure coupled to one 8" low bass radiator). I have laminate floor and don´t have a carpet. Is Gramma solution? How much vibrations he can reduce? I´m from Croatia and here Gramma is slightly expensive, but if it´s worth I will buy one.
If there is any other solutions for my problem, please let me know!
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I need help. Yesterday I have a call from my neighbour about the vibrations from my sub. I need a solution to fix that, so I dont´t have to turn the sub down. My sub is Def tech Prosub 800(One 8" woofer pressure coupled to one 8" low bass radiator). I have laminate floor and don´t have a carpet. Is Gramma solution? How much vibrations he can reduce? I´m from Croatia and here Gramma is slightly expensive, but if it´s worth I will buy one.
If there is any other solutions for my problem, please let me know!

You have to turn the sub down.

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You have to turn the sub down.

Yeah that is the simplest solution LOL, unless he wants to spend a lot of money to get a piece of foam and MDF(wood) shipped from USA to Croatia :-)

I am planning to partner with Home Depot to see if they can make a Granpa and sell it for some 20 bucks at Home Depot :-) A 15"x15" piece of MDF is probably $3, foam some $4, paint $1, glue $1, add $10 for profit/overhead.
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Yeah that is the simplest solution LOL, unless he wants to spend a lot of money to get a piece of foam and MDF(wood) shipped from USA to Croatia :-)

I am planning to partner with Home Depot to see if they can make a Granpa and sell it for some 20 bucks at Home Depot :-) A 15"x15" piece of MDF is probably $3, foam some $4, paint $1, glue $1, add $10 for profit/overhead.

(Don't forget the to add a classy black velour "HD" option for $30)

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eD has their own isolation pad for your sub, if you wanted to return the subdude hd.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=950

I'd rather DIY my own, but that will fit for sure.

Already scratched the Subdude with the spikes, no can do. The penn-elcom rubber isolators on the corners with the pad under the woofer works fine. Noticeable reduction in room vibrations, so it suits my needs.
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This is now past the 65-Days and is considered an Old-Thread.
But IMO I think it is worth bringing back to New Members that might not be aware of these Auralex products.

I just went through this complete Thread/Post and man there a lot of mixed opinions on Auralex products.

I took what the majority said, (Positive Results) and got with my A/V Dealer/Rep. and we just ordered,
4-Auralex Great GRAMMA's and 1-pair of Auralex MOPAD isolation pads for my rear
JML Mini Utopia surrounds mounted on shelves to the rear wall.

I have 4-Mirage BPS-400 Subs.

This has been a most informative Thread and the Post on it.

I rate the overall content of this Thread 4-stars !!!

Glad I found this Thread as well as the others on this topic here on AVS.


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Im upgrading my sub to either the rythmik F15HP or the FV15HP and im interested in the gramma pad since i live in a townhouse with carpet over wood floors. The regular gramma would have my sub overhang 2 in on the left and right side but fit the depth perfectly. The great gramma would fit the sides perfectly but would have 9 in of extra depth on the pad. Which would be preferred if it even matters either way?
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If your subwoofer is larger than the isolation platform this will not have an effect on decoupling performance. Having the platform larger will also not make any difference. These are just visual differences. So just pick which platform fits your sub and available space best.
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If your subwoofer is larger than the isolation platform this will not have an effect on decoupling performance. Having the platform larger will also not make any difference. These are just visual differences. So just pick which platform fits your sub and available space best.

Thanks. I feel the sub hanging off the sides 2 in on each side will look a little odd so i will probably go with the larger pad and have the extra pad space behind the sub.
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Here are a few Pics. of my Auralex Great Gramma Isolation pads.

The 19" was perfect fit but they need to be "Cut" to fit the other way.

This will give some of you some added insight on how you can get these to look perfect when Modified to fit your subs.

Basically they measured the Sub, marked both sides of the Great Gramma, cut it, folded over the Felt, stapled it and it looked perfect.









































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Nice job. You even got the Auralex logo centered. I'm anal like that to. I guess you won't see it with the subwoofer sitting on it though.
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Nice job. You even got the Auralex logo centered. I'm anal like that to. I guess you won't see it with the subwoofer sitting on it though.

Secret Squirrel,

I also have the "Auralex MOPAD Monitor Isolation Pads under the relocated JML Utopia Mini rear surrounds.
(These Mini JML speakers weigh a healthy 60 Lbs. each)
They Isolate them from the Custom Shelves and give them the necessary 8-Degree Tilt needed.









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Very nice speakers Terry. I plan on getting an Auralex Great Gramma for my SVS PB12-plus. I live on the second floor of my apt and I don't want to take any chances with neighbors. I know turning the sub down will help the most.
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Very nice speakers Terry. I plan on getting an Auralex Great Gramma for my SVS PB12-plus. I live on the second floor of my apt and I don't want to take any chances with neighbors. I know turning the sub down will help the most.

Turning the sub down is the only thing that will help.

If your subwoofer's enclosure has a large amount of resonance--like, it dances around when you use it--then the Gramma can reduce that vibration's propagation through the floor.

I doubt that your very excellently designed and built subwoofer has much cabinet resonance to speak of.

Gramma notwithstanding, your sub is going to shake the air; this air-shake is going to shake the walls. This wall-shake is going to reach adjacent walls.

I'm an apartment dweller so I feel your pain (and your hope) but there's no shortcut to being a good neighbor

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No matter what you do, a beast like PB12-plus is going to shake the entire building. It is an over kill for an apt. and even at low volume the neighbors going to get pissed off.

You dont throw stones when you live in a glass building. Same way, you dont buy a subwoofer when you live in an apt. :-)
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