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post #631 of 735 Old 09-28-2006, 04:23 PM
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I agree with stormshadow3500. Even if someone likes Freaky Friday, they HAVE to know it "sucks"..

People are on different levels of emotion/critical thinking. They may not realize a movie sucks to most, but to them it's great. Take most any Adam Sandler or Jackass movie of example. I think they suck but I'm sure many would say different. Another example would be Britney Spears singing which sucks to me, but she has sold millions of records. I could give numerous examples of various types. Therefore, I disagree.
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maybe a change to the thread title would help or maybe not

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Why dont we just start a new thread called "Subwoofer Movies" leaving the suck or dont suck part out.. and having Dr. Pains list as the 1st post???
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Why dont we just start a new thread called "Subwoofer Movies" leaving the suck or dont suck part out.. and having Dr. Pains list as the 1st post???

Sounds like an idea, It would need to be started by me, so I could edit the list as it grows.

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Twister has been running on HBOHD lately - I seem to remember thinking it sucked back in 97 (or whenever it came out) but based on seeing it on this list a few times I decided to give it another chance...

BIG MISTAKE!

it sucks even worse than I remember: "that's Johnas - we went out and got himself some 'corporate sponsors'... he's got a lot of high-tech toys but no instinct... he's in it for the 'money', not the science..."

where's a bucket when you need one?
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careful..I drive on the streets from the movie Twister!!
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I'm sure you won't like it but try The Chronicles of Riddick. Pretty good bass scenes of fire storm on the Crematoria planet(and i have a passive sub by the way), kicks ass. And of course Saving Private Ryan. In my opinion it is sort of a reference movie for testing subs.
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Why dont we just start a new thread called "Subwoofer Movies" leaving the suck or dont suck part out.. and having Dr. Pains list as the 1st post???

There is one already here
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Silent Hill...what's up with those blacks?
The bottom end in there for sure.

How the hell am I supposed to learn anything with all this yackin' going on.
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How many faults in a movie does it take to make it suck? One or many?

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>How many faults in a movie does it take to make it suck? One or many? <<br />
If Keanu Reeves or one of the Baldwins (not counting Alec) is in it, one or two faults are usually enough to classify it as "sucks."

oh, add Vin Diesel to the list.
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How many faults in a movie does it take to make it suck? One or many?



In no particular order:

1. Hopelessly predictable plot, you can identify the good guys, bad guys, and ending within the first 10 minutes. (90% of action flicks)

2. Improbable and cheesy happy endings crafted to please brain-dead focus groups (see last 5 minutes of "Far and Away")

3. Obvious attempts to manipulate the audience in extremely predictable and uncreative ways, often appealing to trendy cultural neuroses like xenophobia and nationalism, "family values," anti-Muslim hysteria, fear of feminism, etc. (first 10 minutes we see the central character in full-blown ADORING FAMILY MAN mode, which sets us up for the rest of the movie we watch him avenging his family's brutal murder or protecting their livelihood, etc.)

4. Poor film editing---movie feels overly slow, long, and tedious with lots of pointless scenes that should've been cut. (director's cut of "Blade Runner" compared to the original cinematic version)

5. Lousy cast and acting. ("Showgirls")

6. Lousy script and dialogue. ("Showgirls" and most overhyped/overpriced Hollywood blockbusters)

7. Pretentious, pompous, and/or moralistic style usually taking itself WAYYYY too seriously. ("Crash," parts of "Saving Private Ryan" and "Band of Brothers")

8. Improbable characters (Julia Roberts playing a cheap streetwalker in "Pretty Woman" or Jennifer Lopez from "Maid In Manhattan" --- both movies are also guilty of #1)

9. Cliches---cardboard characters, telegraphed-from-a-mile-away plot developments, etc. (the later "Rocky" movies)



I'd say that any movie having more than 2-3 of those characteristics would be justly accused of sucking.
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>How many faults in a movie does it take to make it suck? One or many? <<br />
If Keanu Reeves or one of the Baldwins (not counting Alec) is in it, one or two faults are usually enough to classify it as "sucks."

oh, add Vin Diesel to the list.

Any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as a jedi master.
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the lion king is freaking fantastic
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>Any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as a jedi master. <<br />
I'd add any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as anything other than "angry thug/street dude"

Or perhaps, any movie where samuel jackson is cast.
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>Any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as a jedi master. <<br />
I'd add any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as anything other than "angry thug/street dude"

Or perhaps, any movie where samuel jackson is cast.

He was pretty good in The Negotiator and The Long Kiss Goodbye, (though the way the character was written should have been toned down a bit, IMO).

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Pitch Black rocks the sub, and also F&F Tokyo drift.
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Samuel Jackson's best role was in Pulp Fiction, IMO.

I watched Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Good sound mix with good LFE throughout. Not destined to become the classic that is the original.....not even close
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>Any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as a jedi master. <<br />
I'd add any movie where Samuel Jackson is cast as anything other than "angry thug/street dude"

Or perhaps, any movie where samuel jackson is cast.

I just rented this movie where he played this homeless guy, living in a cave....and hot on a murder trail. By the looks of the cover, I wasn't quite sure what I was getting into but I wound up watching it 3 times. That's usually my clue that I'm on to something. FWIW, I think it's his best work yet.
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Anybody experience the bass in We Were Soldiers HD-DVD? The dvd has great amounts,
but the HD version is incredible! much more powerfull and louder with out having to turn
up the master volume. I never went above -10, it pressurized the whole house!
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Feast!!!
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As I was playing with my sub position I found a few fun very low gems in the Star Wars movies...

IV, early in the openng scene the before Vader enters, the "Main Reactor" goes (3P0 tells you after it happens)

III, Anakin/Vaders heartbeat near the end (before the Stoopid, Noooooo!)
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Days of Thunder has very solid LFE, IMO. I have always liked the movie also.. the surround effects are nice also since the racing really gives great area effects.
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are there any remakes of days of thunder?
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are there any remakes of days of thunder?

I don't know about remakes, but the copy I have was released in 99, It's DD 5.1 and Widescreen 2.35:1. Every race sceen in the movie is full of "Thunder" if you know what I mean.

Plus one of my favorate lines of all time:

"You were one lucky son of a bitch in the tunnel turn."
"If you think it was luck, let's do it again."

"I dropping the Hammer!" ... and up fly the DB's

good stuff.
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But I _liked_ Showgirls...

I mean, cinematically and intellectually, it sucked.

So what.

As for sub-showcase flicks, I'm not gonna force a housepest to sit through The Haunting... I'm just gonna click forward to the "make the picture frames fall off the walls (plexiglass is your friend...)" section...

Too much is just enough...
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Just watched Fight Club again over the weekend. GREAT MOVIE and there were a lot of scenes with excellent LFE...
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Showgirls didn't have Marla...

Too much is just enough...
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The Omen(2006)
The infrasonics really intensified the scrares, made me flinch a few times.
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Same here, I heard more about the content but as I said I wasn't expecting the bass I heard. That's why I wanted others to check it out and let me know if it was just me. Remember I said 20+ minutes of sustained LFE, no kidding, that should be enough to peak a bass lovers interest. It sneaks up on you trust me, you're engrossed in the film the bass is this steady undercurrent, you look at the time and holy crap that's some long bass, and it builds and builds. I don't knew if the other viewers run subs or if they are bass lovers etc... JeffD2 rent it and let me know. Hell I may have to rent it again to make sure I'm not crazy.

After seeing this thread I read 11 pages worth just to see if anyone else brought up Irreversable.

+1 on this being a good use of LFE for something other than explosions. The psycological impact of the LFE is quite powerful - simliar to how LFE is being used for crowd control by the military and police departments. Make sure your sub can do 28Hz or lower cleanly to get the full effect. It is described in the IMDB trivia sectoin thusly:

"The first 30 minutes of the film has a background noise with a frequency of 28Hz (low frequency, almost inaudible), similar to the noise produced by an earthquake. In humans, it causes nausea, sickness and vertigo. It was the main cause of people walking out of the theaters during the first part of the film in places like Cannes and San Sebastian. In fact, it was added with the purpose of getting this reaction."

+2 on having extreme viewer discretion. This is a good movie, but it is intense in much the same way Requiem for a Dream is intense.
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