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I love it when folks ask you to "audition a sub in your own home". Having done a fair amount of that, I can say it was a collosal waste of time...

Ok, but that's for you - you have a dedicated home theater (and an obvious need for serious bass ), so auditioning subwoofers becomes a major undertaking. You offer good advice for people in similar situations, but I wonder if you've actually bothered to read the last page or two of posts. Like I've already mentioned, I honestly don't think JL was targeting people like you with the Fathom line. These are purpose built to look nice and be discreet, so they can blend in with your furniture, and your significant other might actually like how they look. To me, they seem most at home in a living room, where they can be tucked away wherever convenient, then let ARO smooth out the bumps (although I've found that solution to be somewhat lacking). That's not to say they can't get the job done in other situations, but people are of course well advised to take the time to educate themselves before buying any kind of HT gear.


Nobody is saying that Fathom subs will give you "truly epic sound". We have defended them simply because they excel in the applications for which they were designed. This should become self-evident with just a modest amount of research. Also, keep in mind that people will have different expectations of the sound they're looking for, so for some (like me!), they could be just "epic" enough (and I only use a pair of F112s). I know most people here at AVS are not exactly mainstream consumers, but there is no shortage of resources to put you on the right track. 95% of the folks that have heard my system have never heard anything like it before. They would be thrilled to have half the sound I get.


We are absolutely not trying to steer people wrong in this thread. Of course, from time to time, some people might get a little carried away singing the praises of their favorite sub. Typical online forum behavior, nothing more. If you think you can spend a few minutes digging around in here and come up with the solution to your home theater woes, you are sadly mistaken. Ask questions. Start a help thread. Put in a little effort and you will find your way. These are lessons most internet users should have learned by now.
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For my dedicated HT room I have 4 Fathoms ( which is more than enough ). Helped and calibrated by a HAA representative using his equipment I have achieved great results ( especially I only have 3 HT seats I'm the one that sits in MLP )I have plenty of head room especially for the room of my size 3.8m x 5.0m. I've been asked if I have those bass shakers ( which I don't ) because you can feel the pressure under the chairs. For me that tells me the subs are doing there job
If I had a larger room I will put my hand up and admit that I will need larger subs but these Subs they do an amazing job for my room.
The thing is we are all here as we're passionate about HT but members should be able to respect other members decisions and just enjoy. Remember It's not a race and there is no winner.



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For my dedicated HT room I have 4 Fathoms ( which is more than enough ). Helped and calibrated by a HAA representative using his equipment I have achieved great results ( especially I only have 3 HT seats I'm the one that sits in MLP )I have plenty of head room especially for the room of my size 3.8m x 5.0m. I've been asked if I have those bass shakers ( which I don't ) because you can feel the pressure under the chairs. For me that tells me the subs are doing there job
If I had a larger room I will put my hand up and admit that I will need larger subs but these Subs they do an amazing job for my room.
The thing is we are all here as we're passionate about HT but members should be able to respect other members decisions and just enjoy. Remember It's not a race and there is no winner.



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Naa! People used to do it for the love of Cinema & Music, not anymore old timer
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Well if thats the case I better get mine into training and do some upgrades. Gotta win for Australia
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No worries franin! as long as there ready for the next "Olympics" as I have it on good word there will be a new sub woofer shot put,javelin, displacement & placement and overall SQ categories! Also mandatory testing for enhancement drugs (metaphor) will be heavily enforced as we don't want something like a JL or other commercial subs mocking up the games with good performance, but ya better get started as I've got a Grandson who's just getting done with the "sub crawl" and about to do his first room calibration
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Also mandatory testing for enhancement drugs (metaphor) will be heavily enforced as we don't want something like a JL or other commercial subs mocking up the games with good performance
Damn I just gave mine a shot of steroids, I forgot there was going to be testing

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but ya better get started as I've got a Grandson who's just getting done with the "sub crawl" and about to do his first room calibration

Looks like I have to do it your way. You have a head start I shall double my efforts. My son has a lot of calibrating ahead of him. Now where is my whip.....



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LOL you guys are having too much fun in a subwoofer thread.

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Here is a question for anyone who can help. If I used Unbalanced cables for master ( receiver to sub ) and wanted to plug a slave will it still all work well with the XLR cable ( one fathom to another fathom ) ?


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Yep, works just fine, that's currently what I do since my Antimode EQ only has unbalanced outs.
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Yep, works just fine, that's currently what I do since my Antimode EQ only has unbalanced outs.
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Has anyone tried running 1 fathom as master and 3 as slave?


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Hi! I'm Stefano from Italy,
Some years ago I purchased a Fathom F113 from USA.
Yesterday my sub is dead: no power, no lights...
Is there a procedure to check the internal fuse?
The F113 is out of warranty and too big to ship in USA.
Is't possible to remove the amp plate?

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Hi! I'm Stefano from Italy,
Some years ago I purchased a Fathom F113 from USA.
Yesterday my sub is dead: no power, no lights...
Is there a procedure to check the internal fuse?
The F113 is out of warranty and too big to ship in USA.
Is't possible to remove the amp plate?

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Looks like it has a few crosshead screws on the plate amp

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Hi! I'm Stefano from Italy,

Some years ago I purchased a Fathom F113 from USA.

Yesterday my sub is dead: no power, no lights...

Is there a procedure to check the internal fuse?

The F113 is out of warranty and too big to ship in USA.

Is't possible to remove the amp plate?



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Mine died as well and it was the Capacitors at the end. There is no Fathom for service in Italy?


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Looks like it has a few crosshead screws on the plate amp

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Yes.. but the sub is sealed.. I think it's diffucult to remove the back plate... Next weekend I could try..
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Ciao Stefano
Mine died as well and it was the Capacitors at the end. There is no Fathom for service in Italy?
I'm investigating about JL Audio support in Italy. But.. I have a friend with good skill in electronics. If the problem is a minor fault... maybe I can resolve myself..
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For places without easy access to service, an oversized passive sub that is hard to burn out is the way to go. Outboard external amp is the way to go.

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Yes.. but the sub is sealed.. I think it's diffucult to remove the back plate... Next weekend I could try..
It's not likely sealed with glue, so once you remove the screws holding the amp in place the amp should come off easily enough; it may or may not have simple connectors for the wires connecting the amp to the driver to allow complete removal...

Same with the driver, removing the screws holding it in place should allow the driver to come out but again with the possibility the wires may not have simple connectors to free it completely.
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Nope I use a Y XLR for subs
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Hi! I'm Stefano from Italy,
Some years ago I purchased a Fathom F113 from USA.
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Is there a procedure to check the internal fuse?
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Is't possible to remove the amp plate?

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How long ago mine are going on five yaers so I hope they last some more! Sorry to hear about your misfortune
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Stefano,

Sorry to hear you are having a problem with your Fathom.

Please contact our technical support team before attempting to disassemble, or service your Fathom. Technical@jlaudio.com

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Sorry to hear you are having a problem with your Fathom.

Please contact our technical support team before attempting to disassemble, or service your Fathom. Technical@jlaudio.com
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I send an email to your support team.
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How long ago mine are going on five yaers so I hope they last some more! Sorry to hear about your misfortune
My F113 is 7 years old.. and I'm really satisfied with them...
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Sorry to hear you are having a problem with your Fathom.

Please contact our technical support team before attempting to disassemble, or service your Fathom. Technical@jlaudio.com

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Hi MS,

When is the F113 version 2 going to be released? Last word was Q1 2015, which has passed, unless I am mistaken.

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Didn't realise they sold a Y XLR.


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