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post #31 of 17500 Old 08-14-2006, 07:40 PM
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Very nice.

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Ok, I've been a videophile for most of my life and am now catching up on the audio side. I've been thinking about preordering that new PB12-NSD that comes out in september. Are there advantages for it being front firing? Here's my setup. All paradigm cc570, studio 60's, 4 of the adp470's for rear and side surrounds. The sub is a paradigm ps1000 10" sub I got back in 2000 which I would imagine isn't enough now, correct? The prepro is the outlaw 990 with the 7125 7 channel amp.

It's a decent size livingroom with vaulted ceilings that opens to the dining room and it doesn't seem to do it for me anymore. Back when I was into car audio people would say "if you want tighter bass stay with a 10" sub as the bass will get mushy with a 12" or 15" sub. Has that changed? Will I get deep bass AND tight bass when needed? I want accurate bass and for it to totally compliment the great paradigms as well in the low and midrange bass sections.

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Back when I was into car audio people would say "if you want tighter bass stay with a 10" sub as the bass will get mushy with a 12" or 15" sub. Has that changed?

Those guys were talking out of their ass. That simply isn't true.

I think the new PB12-NSD would be a good upgrade for you.
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Well, just preordered that new front firing 12" sub that comes out in September at SVS Now the waiting begins lol

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Congrats on the purchase. Interested to hear how it sounds in your space. Great thing is, with SVS return policy, your not stuck with something if it doesn't fit in your system.

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Thanks, yeah I'll report back with my findings on it. I've searched avs for comments on this sub and found a few but the search engine doesn't seem to find them very well. I seem to find comments just by checking the different svs thread instead of searching for the model#.

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well it won't find the part number as it is a "new" product. just do a search for "svs pb12" or something similar--it will lead you to the dozens of threads that compared and talked about various SVS subs specifically the--pb12-isd, pb12-isd/v these are the previous generation to the pb12-nsd performance will be comparable with probably a slight edge to the new one you just preordered with its new driver. Let us know how she sounds when you get her. I am sure you are going to shocked at the difference between it and the 10 paradigm you currently have--even as good as it is, the svs will embarass it. good luck.

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Count me in.

Placed an order for the new PB12-NSD last week.
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I joined the club too. I just placed my order for the PB-12NSD today.

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Just changed my order from the new pb12NSD to the PB12plus/2 I didn't want to wait on the other sub and this one should really sound much better in my livingroom. Now the wait for delivery begins...

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Just changed my order from the new pb12NSD to the PB12plus/2 I didn't want to wait on the other sub and this one should really sound much better in my livingroom. Now the wait for delivery begins...

Make sure you get tracking information. Someone needs to be there when it is delivered. Also have a strong-backed person to help you move it. It is 140lbs. Or have two people to move it for you. It's much more enjoyable if you don't have to move it yourself. Trust me, I know.

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Yes! I received my dual PB12+/2's today. Got them all hooked up just in time to leave for work. I'm really looking foward to calibrating them later. I'll have updates with pictures to come.

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Yes! I received my dual PB12+/2's today. Got them all hooked up just in time to leave for work. I'm really looking foward to calibrating them later. I'll have updates with pictures to come.

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Yes! I received my dual PB12+/2's today. Got them all hooked up just in time to leave for work. I'm really looking foward to calibrating them later. I'll have updates with pictures to come.

Congrats...looking forward to your review...25-31 to dual /2s...

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I guess I'll check in and brag too, since this is the owners thread.

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Can't wait to hear about the higher end tower speakers that SVS plans to launch later this year, maybe I'll upgrade to those?

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I now have my Plus/2 in Rosewood I've had it for about a week or so and it is simply amazing. I didn't think I'd find something that would wow me like the PB10 did when I made the jump from a Velodyne DPS10. Well, this Plus/2 has wowed me. I've watched some scenes from WOTW and Pearl Harbor in both 20hz and 16hz modes...found that 20hz is what I prefer. A bit more "oomph". In addition, where the PB10 was great, this is literally an earthquake in a box (albeit a fairly large box..haha!) I live in earthquake country so I know what it feels like when an earthquake starts (went through the 7.1 in '89 and hope to never experience another like it)....I set the Plus/2 where I had previously had the PB10 (about 1/3) and ran the EZset on the H/K 635....when the tone hit for the sub, it made adrenalin kick in because it literally felt like the beginning of an earthquake...I wasn't expecting it and it was a little unnerving...haha! Needless to say, 1/3 was way too high for calibration on this beast, I've since turned it back to about 1/4 (85db) and still kills any other sub I've owned...simply stunning finish with amazing sound quality. Seeing and hearing this makes me realize that $1500 is a steal for a sub of this quality. As a PB10 and Plus/2 owner, I can attest to SVS quality and attention to detail....of the limited number of subs I've heard, nothing compares. Great job SVS! Never thought I'd experience true house shaking bass....it began with the PB10, but the Plus/2 is more than adequate in that regard....those that are deathly afraid of earthquakes, beware....haha!
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I now have my Plus/2 in Rosewood I've had it for about a week or so and it is simply amazing. I didn't think I'd find something that would wow me like the PB10 did when I made the jump from a Velodyne DPS10. Well, this Plus/2 has wowed me. I've watched some scenes from WOTW and Pearl Harbor in both 20hz and 16hz modes...found that 20hz is what I prefer. A bit more "oomph". In addition, where the PB10 was great, this is literally an earthquake in a box (albeit a fairly large box..haha!) I live in earthquake country so I know what it feels like when an earthquake starts (went through the 7.1 in '89 and hope to never experience another like it)....I set the Plus/2 where I had previously had the PB10 (about 1/3) and ran the EZset on the H/K 635....when the tone hit for the sub, it made adrenalin kick in because it literally felt like the beginning of an earthquake...I wasn't expecting it and it was a little unnerving...haha! Needless to say, 1/3 was way too high for calibration on this beast, I've since turned it back to about 1/4 (85db) and still kills any other sub I've owned...simply stunning finish with amazing sound quality. Seeing and hearing this makes me realize that $1500 is a steal for a sub of this quality. As a PB10 and Plus/2 owner, I can attest to SVS quality and attention to detail....of the limited number of subs I've heard, nothing compares. Great job SVS! Never thought I'd experience true house shaking bass....it began with the PB10, but the Plus/2 is more than adequate in that regard....those that are deathly afraid of earthquakes, beware....haha!

Hmmm... went through the Whittier quake while fairly new to CA, and for the next two years, when the 240 lb body-builder in the townhouse next door ran up the stairs that shared a wall with our place, we clenched... If it has that type of impact, I'll have to consider it.

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It definetely does it in my room, which is about 15 feet long, 10 feet wide, and 8 feet high.
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Hey everybody. Glad to see this thread take off! Had an impressive performance last night. Flight of the Phoenix! Hadn't seen it before. Great movie with some great bass. Good soundtrack too, might actually pick that up. My PB Plus/2 is beginning to reveal some vibrations in my room. Gonna need to track them down in the near future.

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Anyone have experience with the SVS SBS-01 bookshelf speakers?
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I was wondering why Ilkka's tests of the new 12.3 drivers appears to look worse than previous drivers.

I am not saying his graphs are the "truth," but he's the only one that's publicly tried and shown his results.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...us-12-3-a.html

Also, notice how the THD skyrockets at 110 db and not 115 db. That's weird. Personally, 105 DB is good enough for me and that seems to be the ceiling.

Does everyone's SVS look like it has layers or different sections like in the picture?
Kind of like a cake.

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New SVS owner as of yesterday. Absolutely love my PB10.

I have the gain set at 9 o'clock position and my Yamaha receiver set to -17db.

My speakers are pushing out 75db while my sub is doing about 65db. Don't be fool about it being that much lower, it sounds absolutely great.
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Has anyone else received shipment notice for the new PB12-NSD? It is my understanding they started shipping yesterday....

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I'm still waiting for their Auth reseller in CANADA....WOOT NO DUTY!! aka "border fees

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Dr. Pain,

Actually an announcement about that is coming very soon, thanks for the interest. Our goal will be stable prices, enhanced accessability, and simpler/lower shipping costs. We've been working on procedures for world-market presence for over a year now and frankly Canada was the toughest case to make from a business standpoint (sales have been quite good there over the years right from the US after all). We think the right combination of conditions exist, finally. We've been in intense discussions with a well-established web-direct reseller with a good track record of providing good service to his customers and expect this to bear fruit around the end of the month.

PS there is actually no "duty" now on most SVS products AFAIK, we ship north all the time (heck our amps actually come from there now). There are some pesky "border fees" that amount to a similar thing, and we're well aware of that small, but pervasive, added cost.

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Actually an announcement about that is coming very soon, thanks for the interest. Our goal will be stable prices, enhanced accessability, and simpler/lower shipping costs. We've been working on procedures for world-market presence for over a year now and frankly Canada was the toughest case to make from a business standpoint (sales have been quite good there over the years right from the US after all). We think the right combination of conditions exist, finally. We've been in intense discussions with a well-established web-direct reseller with a good track record of providing good service to his customers and expect this to bear fruit around the end of the month.

PS there is actually no "duty" now on most SVS products AFAIK, we ship north all the time (heck our amps actually come from there now). There are some pesky "border fees" that amount to a similar thing, and we're well aware of that small, but pervasive, added cost.

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New SVS ower. Got my pc+2039 a few days ago. 12.3 driver!!

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