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Old 03-10-2012, 04:31 PM
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i like to get all my cables from bluejeanscable.com

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I've been buying ALL my cables from monoprice for years. Never an issue and shipping to Canada has been fantastic.
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I've been buying ALL my cables from monoprice for years. Never an issue and shipping to Canada has been fantastic.

nothing wrong with monoprice either.
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Hi thanks folks

I must admit i was getting temped to get an expensive cable as i use the AV for stereo duty as well and a lot of reviews suggest you get better intergration of bass in music with more expensive cables.

Thanks everyone who replied
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I must admit i was getting temped to get an expensive cable as i use the AV for stereo duty as well and a lot of reviews suggest you get better intergration of bass in music with more expensive cables.

A lot of hogwash out there unfortunately. While you probably don't just want to use some raggedy 20 year old RCA cable you had lying in your attic, you don't need a $3000 cable to help "integrate bass" either. Proper placement and Audyssey on your AVR will go a long ways towards well integrated bass.
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Hi

I have the Chord CrimsonPlus now so i guess that will do.

I had thought about the QED Reference or Signature cable it seemed mean such a pricey sub and relative low priced sub cable.

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A lot of hogwash out there unfortunately. While you probably don't just want to use some raggedy 20 year old RCA cable you had lying in your attic, you don't need a $3000 cable to help "integrate bass" either. Proper placement and Audyssey on your AVR will go a long ways towards well integrated bass.

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Hi thanks folks

I must admit i was getting temped to get an expensive cable as i use the AV for stereo duty as well and a lot of reviews suggest you get better intergration of bass in music with more expensive cables.

Thanks everyone who replied

Why not use the SVS cable they sell on their website? It is not super expensive and it helps out a company we all know and love!

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I have no problem with helping SVS. I love the AS-EQ1. But subs do not benefit from expensive cables, according to most discussions I have seen.

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I may very well be sleeping with the dog for months, but I just ordered the PB13-Ultra.

I just had to share this news with someone who understands as I know that I'm not going to get any support from home.

I'm thinking that I should tell her after we spend some quality time together! ;-)

As you might guess; now that I have ordered the beast of subwoofers, I'm wondering if my speakers will be good enough to do it justice.

I may need to upgrade them next.

I surely must have a death wish... as I am sure my current WAF is very, very low at the moment.

It is most likely much lower then any of the presidental candidate polls. I might need secret service assigned to protect me from the WAF fallout!

So, what might I want to start looking at?
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I am thinking about upgrading Has any SVS owner here ever owned a Def Tech SC1 and can you compare them?

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I am thinking about upgrading Has any SVS owner here ever owned a Def Tech SC1 and can you compare them?

I went from a PF15TL+ to the PB-13 Ultra with the Bash amp. Not a fair comparison at all. I thought the DT did rather well but once integrating the Ultra, wow, what an improvement. Plays a lot deeper, is far more musical, and has significantly more slam on movies. One of the best purchases I've made in HT.

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Hi

I am in the UK i contacted SVS re a cable but it is not worth it for them or me as shipping is only a goer when you buy the sub as well

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I'm wondering if my speakers will be good enough to do it justice.

So, what might I want to start looking at?

What do you own now? I'd think with PB13U, and assuming you wanted to stay with Klipsch (I assume given your user name), an RF-7 system or something from the Heritage line would make a very impressive system.
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What do you own now? I'd think with PB13U, and assuming you wanted to stay with Klipsch (I assume given your user name), an RF-7 system or something from the Heritage line would make a very impressive system.

I just ordered the PC13U. I don't have it yet. As to what I have... It would be the Klipsch KG 5.5 for the fronts, the KV3 for center, and the KG 1.5 for the rears. I've had these for years now. I'm driving the speakers with a Pioneer SC-55.
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As to what I have... It would be the Klipsch KG 5.5 for the fronts, the KV3 for center, and the KG 1.5 for the rears. I've had these for years now. I'm driving the speakers with a Pioneer SC-55.

Obviously your system isn't the last word in sound reproduction, but I bet it sounds pretty good all the same. Is there something you feel your setup lacks, or something that interests you? I stand by my choices of the RF-7 and Heritage line as good places to start auditioning. I'd add the THX line to that list too.
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Then the first thing I thought was that the wife is going to flip!

Well she didn't flip, but was def somewhat angry. I assured her it was the exact dimensions that I measured out to show her before I got it, an that once it was in its place she wouldn't think it was that bad. So she went off to work.

Yeah, I told my wife the dimensions of the PB12 Plus before I ordered it and she was ok with it, until she actually saw it. Good thing 2' by a bit less than 2' by a bit less than 2' just doesn't sound that large until you actually see the thing.

The WAF was helped though by the fact she was feeling guilty from ruining her laptop by spilling coffee on it a couple of days before

Enjoy this monster of a sub!
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beezar.....one must take advantage of such mishaps.

Might not be a bad idea to have a want list on hand for such opportunities.

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I got a comfirmation that my PB13U has shipped, but no mention of a tracking number. Does freight shipping even have a tracking system? I'll need to figure out how to be home when the delivery comes.
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I got a comfirmation that my PB13U has shipped, but no mention of a tracking number. Does freight shipping even have a tracking system? I'll need to figure out how to be home when the delivery comes.

The shipping company will contact you about setting up a delivery when the package reaches your local hub. They will tell you to pick a morning or afternoon time when you or someone will be home to sign for the package, because they will not just deliver it and leave it on your door.
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The shipping company will contact you about setting up a delivery when the package reaches your local hub. They will tell you to pick a morning or afternoon time when you or someone will be home to sign for the package, because they will not just deliver it and leave it on your door.

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No problem, it's still fresh in my mind because I just went through the process last week. I hope it gets to you quickly as I know waiting for something that's this good is torture.
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Hi Guys,
Attached is a drawing of my living room where I have my HT setup. I'm not sure if I should go ahead with PB12-NSD or PB12-PLUS as I live in an apt and won't be able to play the audio at max level. Viewing time....80% movies, 20% music.
Would PB12-NSD be more than enough?
Is PB12-PLUS an overkill? Is it worth twice the cost of PB12-NSD?
Would appreciate if you guys would help me make a decision.
Thanks!

 

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Where are the SVS subs made? Are any of them made in the US? A friend of mine asked and I didn't know the answer. I'm trying to get him interested in the PB12-NSD.
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Where are the SVS subs made? Are any of them made in the US? A friend of mine asked and I didn't know the answer. I'm trying to get him interested in the PB12-NSD.

Assembly of subwoofers is done in China.They have a facility in Ohio, USA, where the subs are put through final QC inspection by SVS personnel before shipping.
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Tonight I managed to take a first measurement of my listening room's frequency response. It's definitely not my last word as I'm still learning the ropes and I'm not done reading the instructions But both my soundcard and SPL meters were calibrated, and I tried a few variations and the measurements were pretty much the same.

So... looks to me that I will benefit from the BFD I just bought. I hope it will be able to flatten out the 20-70 Hz region. (By the way, this was with an SB12-NSD playing at 75 dB, so I guess I have plenty of room gain considering I have only 10 dB drop from a 80 dB peak at 15 Hz). However it seems to me that the double-null at 90 and 100 Hz are really horrendous. Not sure what causes those; I'll have to use test tones to try to see what's rattling. Anyway that is a *huge* dip in at frequencies that are very sollicited it seems.
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As you might guess; now that I have ordered the beast of subwoofers, I'm wondering if my speakers will be good enough to do it justice.

I may need to upgrade them next.

I surely must have a death wish... as I am sure my current WAF is very, very low at the moment.

It is most likely much lower then any of the presidental candidate polls. I might need secret service assigned to protect me from the WAF fallout!

So, what might I want to start looking at?

Nothing better than a good subwoofer to upgrade your HT experience. Good luck with the new baby.

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Assembly of subwoofers is done in China.They have a facility in Ohio, USA, where the subs are put through final QC inspection by SVS personnel before shipping.

I know at one time the cylinders were assembled here. Going to the "wayback machine" in 2011:

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Only 16" in diameter, it takes up less space than a potted plant. Yet, the PC13-Ultra is easilly compared to famous brands costing far far more.

Only SVS has the 13" Ultra woofer, arguably among the finest used in home audio. Our highest USA content sub, hand-built in Ohio!

Don't know if that's changed since.
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Hi Guys,
Attached is a drawing of my living room where I have my HT setup. I'm not sure if I should go ahead with PB12-NSD or PB12-PLUS as I live in an apt and won't be able to play the audio at max level. Viewing time....80% movies, 20% music.
Would PB12-NSD be more than enough?
Is PB12-PLUS an overkill? Is it worth twice the cost of PB12-NSD?
Would appreciate if you guys would help me make a decision.
Thanks!

For an apartment, I'd think the PB12-NSD would be more than adequate. I've got a similar sized room (~2500 cubic feet) and feel my PC12-NSD has sufficient output for that space. Of course, when I get it going, my wife can also readily hear the system playing from 2 floors up, so be careful with the volume.
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Hi Guys,
Attached is a drawing of my living room where I have my HT setup. I'm not sure if I should go ahead with PB12-NSD or PB12-PLUS as I live in an apt and won't be able to play the audio at max level. Viewing time....80% movies, 20% music.
Would PB12-NSD be more than enough?
Is PB12-PLUS an overkill? Is it worth twice the cost of PB12-NSD?
Would appreciate if you guys would help me make a decision.
Thanks!

I have a similar setup and the PC12-NSD (cylinder) offers plenty of LFE. There is enough to feel it when played at louder levels.

My living room is 12x15 and opens on one side to another 850 sq ft.

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Hi Guys,
Attached is a drawing of my living room where I have my HT setup. I'm not sure if I should go ahead with PB12-NSD or PB12-PLUS as I live in an apt and won't be able to play the audio at max level. Viewing time....80% movies, 20% music.
Would PB12-NSD be more than enough?
Is PB12-PLUS an overkill? Is it worth twice the cost of PB12-NSD?
Would appreciate if you guys would help me make a decision.
Thanks!

That is close to the size and layout of my listening area. I recently bought a PB12-NSD. I wish it had a cpl more dB's above 25Hz, but I listen real loud.
IMO, you should get the PB12 since you said you wont be pushing it that loud. The PB12+ would give you more headroom to go real loud on occassion though(~5dB more) and it would offer a little more tactile feel below 20Hz.
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