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big changes to the avs forum...


im lost again... lol


well found the svs sub thread
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question for pc12 nsd/svs owners. i have the pc12 nsd connected to my avr via the "left line in" in my 5.1 setup.

i was curious....

1. can i also connect a stereo amplifier at the same time into the "right line in" and use it in a 2.1 setup ? ie in a stereo amplifier + 2 speakers setup.

2. i intend to use this in an alternate manner one at a time. ie avr into left line in and stereo amplifier into right line in but power only one source at a time.

Is the above possible ?

What if i power on and play both the avr and the stereo amplifier and send both the signals at the same time ? What will happen then ?

am i expecting too much from my sub.....???

You can use left or right input on your sub , so you can use one for AVR and 5.1 and other for stereo and 2.1. i will never even take a change and play them in same time, not sure but you can make some damage. So you have both system 5.1 and 2.1 in same room with sub? If yes why you did not put speakers together make 7.1 system and then you will play always only what you need from your AVR. Also good point to chat or call with SVS guys!!!

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my buddy my bro.... I didn't get a satisfactory answer on the pc12nsd thread hence thought better to ask here in the general svs thread hoping...... more users = more answers.

thanks for the svs helpline details bro but if we went to the product helpline for every query of every product we use at home and in life then what would be the point of having an forum such as ours....??

so my friend why are you discouraging me from using the forum ???
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my buddy my bro.... I didn't get a satisfactory answer on the pc12nsd thread hence thought better to ask here in the general svs thread hoping...... more users = more answers.

thanks for the svs helpline details bro but if we went to the product helpline for every query of every product we use at home and in life then what would be the point of having an forum such as ours....??

so my friend why are you discouraging me from using the forum ???
He is trying to help you to get the best answer possible and fast. today AVS web was remodeled so almost all day did not for 5 minuts chat with SVS and you will have all your questions answered!!!!

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You can use left or right input on your sub , so you can use one for AVR and 5.1 and other for stereo and 2.1. i will never even take a change and play them in same time, not sure but you can make some damage. So you have both system 5.1 and 2.1 in same room with sub? If yes why you did not put speakers together make 7.1 system and then you will play always only what you need from your AVR. Also good point to chat or call with SVS guys!!!
yes bro I have a 5.1 setup in my bedroom. my avr is only 6.1 so cant do a 7.1 setup with it.

I have desktop pc existing in the same room with a stereo amp and 2 speakers.

I hoped to use the pc12 nsd which is connected to my 5.1 avr with the stereo amplifier to make it 2.1

so I can enjoy the svs both for movies with my avr and music with my stereo amplifier.

Is that too much to ask for ???

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yes bro I have a 5.1 setup in my bedroom. my avr is only 6.1 so cant do a 7.1 setup with it.

I have desktop pc existing in the same room with a stereo amp and 2 speakers.

I hoped to use the pc12 nsd which is connected to my 5.1 avr with the stereo amplifier to make it 2.1

so I can enjoy the svs both for movies with my avr and music with my stereo amplifier.

Is that too much to ask for ???
Yes you can,no it is not too much to ask Ijust dont understand why you dont want to contact also SVS if you have a questions about for Sub, they have outstanding customer service. It is always nice to be sure before you set up something wrong and you don't want to damage your sub it is why taht guy and I told you also about contacted SVS.

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^ what he said "bro."
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Will be a member of the second sub club (PB12-NSD's) when it arrives early next week. Just needed someone to tell, since my wife is past tired of me talking about home theater. Somehow I was able to stretch a $300 subwoofer budget (until I got sound advice here indicating I needed to do better) into nearly $1,200. She literally made me sign a promise agreement that this is the last piece of home theater equipment I buy for the next 5 years.
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Congrats to your second sub, I'm sure you will like it. Just play same action scenes with one and then hook up both and your wife will hear different and I'm sure she will like it if she like watch movies or listen music. It is what I did with my wife and we tested dual Pses over single Ultra and she said also dual sounds the best !!!! 5 years is a long time, not sure if I want to sign something like this

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Will be a member of the second sub club (PB12-NSD's) when it arrives early next week. Just needed someone to tell, since my wife is past tired of me talking about home theater. Somehow I was able to stretch a $300 subwoofer budget (until I got sound advice here indicating I needed to do better) into nearly $1,200. She literally made me sign a promise agreement that this is the last piece of home theater equipment I buy for the next 5 years.
I also promised my wife I wouldn't buy anything HT related and well I found a great deal on some used Klipsch RF7II's and after telling her what retail price was and what I could get them for used she said what are you waiting for. Picking them up end of this month

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Congrats to your second sub, I'm sure you will like it. Just play same action scenes with one and then hook up both and your wife will hear different and I'm sure she will like it if she like watch movies or listen music. It is what I did with my wife and we tested dual Pses over single Ultra and she said also dual sounds the best !!!! 5 years is a long time, not sure if I want to sign something like this
Yea, it is a long time, but to go from having my mind set on the Energy Take Classic series, to moving up to the Energy Reference Connoiseur line, getting a better AVR than initially planned, and to top it off with two great subs, I can't really complain. I spent probably four times what I initially told her I was going to spend. I'm sure many wives would have said no a long time ago, so I will honor said agreement.
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Man this new look is all over the place.i AM TRYING MY BEST to find forums i am subed to svs beign one big one.I have to go into the fourms list just to find svs this really blow's.Before it saved in my list now that list is gone it's like they just got rid of it.IDK why they would do this.Every time with website's like this .I feel like i am on youtube and facebook once again not know what the hell to do becuase everything is messed up lol.
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Man this new look is all over the place.i AM TRYING MY BEST to find forums i am subed to svs beign one big one.I have to go into the fourms list just to find svs this really blow's.Before it saved in my list now that list is gone it's like they just got rid of it.IDK why they would do this.Every time with website's like this .I feel like i am on youtube and facebook once again not know what the hell to do becuase everything is messed up lol.
just click on tools at the top


then subscriptions.. that should help a lot..


yeah the site is not as user friendly as before..
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Man this new look is all over the place.i AM TRYING MY BEST to find forums i am subed to svs beign one big one.I have to go into the fourms list just to find svs this really blow's.Before it saved in my list now that list is gone it's like they just got rid of it.IDK why they would do this.Every time with website's like this .I feel like i am on youtube and facebook once again not know what the hell to do becuase everything is messed up lol.
I'm with you little crazy changes but we will get use to it, no other option anyway

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I've got a question. I received my PB-2000 yesterday. (Excellent shipping time by the way, only 3 days!!!). I got the sub setup last night and I seem to be having a hard time with a few things. I am using a Pioneer VSX-1022K receiver with a single LFE cable to the sub. My sub is placed in the corner of a 11'x35' room. Theater is at the end of the room where the sub is located.



1st. I can't seem to get the auto on feature to work. I can switch the sub to on, and it will power on. when its on Auto and there is a signal, it stays on. but when it shuts off after it doesn't detect the signal, it won't turn back on.



2nd. I ran the MCAA... calibration on the receiver. It barley picked up the sub. I checked the settings on the amp. LFE on the crossover, 0 phase and gain at 12:00 position.

the auto calibration put the AVR gains on all my other speakers at -7 to -10 db and the sub at +5. does this seem normal? For a sub this size, it should be the other way around I think.



I went with the settings that the auto calibration did, and I had virtually no sound out of the sub. I decided to turn the gain up on the sub and then it started to work. the gain is up around the 3:00 position. (Around 75%?) Does that seem right?



Next I proceeded to adjust the AVR settings. I bumped the sub out from +5 to +10. that made a huge difference. Now we are rattling the rafters!



Now I have read on multiple posts here that you should not turn the AVR setting into the positive, leave it at 0. If I do that, the sub simply doesn't work. even if the sub amp gain is up to 100%. Is this normal?



And this still doesn't explain why the auto-on features doesn't work...



Any help? Thanks!
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It wont hurt anything to leave the sub On all the time.
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[QUOTE=Rendermandan;24932921]I've got a question. I received my PB-2000 yesterday. (Excellent shipping time by the way, only 3 days!!!). I got the sub setup last night and I seem to be having a hard time with a few things. I am using a Pioneer VSX-1022K receiver with a single LFE cable to the sub. My sub is placed in the corner of a 11'x35' room. Theater is at the end of the room where the sub is located.



1st. I can't seem to get the auto on feature to work. I can switch the sub to on, and it will power on. when its on Auto and there is a signal, it stays on. but when it shuts off after it doesn't detect the signal, it won't turn back on.



2nd. I ran the MCAA... calibration on the receiver. It barley picked up the sub. I checked the settings on the amp. LFE on the crossover, 0 phase and gain at 12:00 position.


re run the calibration with sub at 1 or 2 o'clock position till the avr trims it to the minus -10 to - 5 area...


not sure why the auto on is not working call svs..


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^ True that, but give SVS a call to get their input just in case you've missed something or you've got an issue with your sub. This weekend I too thought I had an issue with the auto on function with my new PC12 Plus - when I re-ran Audyssey I had to boast the volume on the sub - but then had to quickly turn it down when it kicked on (literally). No issues after that when receiving a signal. Later when I would try to make some adjustments it didn't come back on, I even swapped out the surge protector. After going through all of that I read the manual (don't say it) and realized just how that feature works with the LED display and push button control - DUH!

By the way I got my replacement grill and the other part I needed to fix the damage to my new sub during shipping. Thanks SVS - great service as always.
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Did you run the calibration with the sub set to On, or was it on Auto when you ran it? You want it "On" before you run it
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Also don't forget to turn up the Trim 3db in the standing wave section after running MCACC
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Good news, I think I got it figured out. Last night I had some time to do some adjustments. Long story short, I had to turn down the gain on the sub and I boosted the avr sub up. What I think was happening was the avr was not sending a strong enough signal for the amp to pick up on. With the higher output from the avr, the auto turn on works now. I then proceeded to adjust the gain on the sub to my liking which is just past 12:00.

Then I noticed a new problem, I was able to here people talking through the sub... The crossover was still at LFE. Short story, the mcacc had changed my center channel to "small". Even though it's dual 6.5's and a horn tweeter. In the small setting, any frequencies from any speaker lower than 150hz are sent to the LFE channel... I manually changed it back to large, and the problem was solved!

Now, to enjoy some old movies all over again!
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Short story, the mcacc had changed my center channel to "small". Even though it's dual 6.5's and a horn tweeter. In the small setting, any frequencies from any speaker lower than 150hz are sent to the LFE channel... I manually changed it back to large, and the problem was solved!
I'd still leave it as small. What is your center? Is it capable down to 20hz?

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Good news, I think I got it figured out. Last night I had some time to do some adjustments. Long story short, I had to turn down the gain on the sub and I boosted the avr sub up. What I think was happening was the avr was not sending a strong enough signal for the amp to pick up on. With the higher output from the avr, the auto turn on works now. I then proceeded to adjust the gain on the sub to my liking which is just past 12:00.

Then I noticed a new problem, I was able to here people talking through the sub... The crossover was still at LFE. Short story, the mcacc had changed my center channel to "small". Even though it's dual 6.5's and a horn tweeter. In the small setting, any frequencies from any speaker lower than 150hz are sent to the LFE channel... I manually changed it back to large, and the problem was solved!

Now, to enjoy some old movies all over again!
I'd set it to small, is it capable down to 20hz?

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Good news, I think I got it figured out. Last night I had some time to do some adjustments. Long story short, I had to turn down the gain on the sub and I boosted the avr sub up. What I think was happening was the avr was not sending a strong enough signal for the amp to pick up on. With the higher output from the avr, the auto turn on works now. I then proceeded to adjust the gain on the sub to my liking which is just past 12:00.

Then I noticed a new problem, I was able to here people talking through the sub... The crossover was still at LFE. Short story, the mcacc had changed my center channel to "small". Even though it's dual 6.5's and a horn tweeter. In the small setting, any frequencies from any speaker lower than 150hz are sent to the LFE channel... I manually changed it back to large, and the problem was solved!

Now, to enjoy some old movies all over again!
Now, your center channel will be trying to reproduce frequencies it wasn't designed for.

Set it back to small and adjust the xo to a lower freq.

With dual subs, stack'em in the corner and put on a jockstrap. Don't want EVERYTHING in the room jingling!
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No, it's not capable of 20hz. My sub is located in the back corner of the room, distance from seated position is only 10ft. So when a lower voice is coming from the center channel, I can hear it from the sub, and it just messes up the soundstage. I'm sure it would not be as noticeable if the sub were up front with the other speakers, unfortunately the only place I have room for the PB-20000 is in the corner...
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Anyway the high frequency sounds from your sub is due to the high setting on your pioneer, if you can't adjust 150hz to a lower setting, I'd probably use the crossover on the sub. Not ideal as you're going through two crossovers..but 150hz is way too high (in fact I don't like 120hz either)

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Yes, there is a crossover setting. I think it goes, 80, 100, 120, 150.

So what you are suggesting is to change the center back to small, and set the crossover at 80 or 100.


Edit: to clarify, the crossover on the avr, not the sub.

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So what you are suggesting is to change the center back to small, and set the crossover at 80 or 100.
Edit: to clarify, the crossover on the avr, not the sub.
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Looks like they lowered the price on most outlet subs by $50!
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Looks like they lowered the price on most outlet subs by $50!
Some went down $100, even better reason to get SVS subs guys !!!! Outstanding subs are cheaper in outlet great !!!

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