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Old 07-26-2014, 05:42 AM
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I just bought the sledge amp for asub I built using there 12" speaker. I can't locate the speaker wire connections on the amplifier. Can anyone tell me how to connect the speaker wires to the amp. I am talking about the internal speaker in my cabinet. Thanks.
If you could post a good quality picture of the amp plate, then I am sure that someone (maybe even me) will be able to indicate the appropriate connections. There should be spade connections for both AC mains input and speaker terminals, as well as smaller connections for the usual adjustable controls, gain, phase, LPF frequency, and most importantly the low level input.
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Hey guys, I have a 7.1 surround setup in my theater room. The receiver is a Pioneer Elite SC-75, my speakers are Axiom Audio and my subwoofer is the SVS PB-12 Plus. The current subwoofer tune I have it set for is 16HZ and I also have the middle port plugged. I'm not sure if this is how I should have it setup for the type of bass I'm trying to achieve. I want a deep rumbling feel it in your chest bass. I'm not a big fan of loud, boomy and shake the ceiling bass. If anyone has recommendations on some of the settings I might need to change, I would greatly appreciate the suggestions. Thanks!

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Hi. You might try to seal all of the ports and change the amp setting for sealed (look in user manual)...then re-run calibration and report back
Thanks! I'll give it a shot.

Btw, should I change the then setting from 16hz to something higher or lower?

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Thanks! I'll give it a shot.

Btw, should I change the then setting from 16hz to something higher or lower?
yes sealed mode means all 3 ports sealed with foam cap and before you play it change on Sub amp from 16hz to sealed mode!!!! Mode ca be 20Hz, 16Hz or sealed on sub amp). Then rerun Audysey if you have AVR able to do it and you are ready to play in sealed mode!!!

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If you could post a good quality picture of the amp plate, then I am sure that someone (maybe even me) will be able to indicate the appropriate connections. There should be spade connections for both AC mains input and speaker terminals, as well as smaller connections for the usual adjustable controls, gain, phase, LPF frequency, and most importantly the low level input.
Regards, Mike.

Thanks for the reply. I did find the connections but they are not what I expected. My other plate amp had spade connections, as you mentioned. This one is a two prong, computer like connection. Working fine now. Thanks again.
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What you guys think...i have 2xsb12 nsd and i am looking for a little more grunt for movies...if i sell one sb12 and get sb13ultra and pair it with the sb12 would that be ok or the ultra will overpower the small one? (Sealed room 1600ctfeet)
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Thank you for the compliments on the room. We spend most of our time in there. It truly is a multi-purpose room - and that has compromises to deal with. One of them is that the 16' of glass on each of the three exposed walls does provide a lot of light -- and also glare for the TV. In those cases, we close the vertical blinds and its then reasonably dark without glare.


PS: I need to take new pictures (quite a bit of the equipment and furniture in the room has already changed) and post them at the link below but I will do that when the new SB13-Ultra is in place.
I now have received my SB13-Ultra and have it installed and set up.


When I first set it up, I plugged it in and played a piece of music that I knew was bass heavy to see if the SB13-Ultra worked and to get an initial feel for it. I didn't know that it was sent from the factory set at reference level (I.e., '0'). Just about everything in the house was shaking. Walls, things on the walls, things on shelves - family room, kitchen, living room, etc. even the beer bottles in the refrigerator were clinking. After I did a ballpark calibration, I did some quick reference tests with movies and music. The bass is very powerful yet very clean. When I played he opening battle scene of Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith with my previous sub (Klipsch RSW-10D), it sounded is if something was wrong. As it turns out, it was bottoming out. The new subwoofer handled the scene with ease.

Last night, I had enough time to run YPAO on my Yamaha RX-A2010 to calibrate it. When I completed the auto calibration, I used a simple (IOS) SPL meter to see if the speakers were equally set. They were pretty good but needed some tweaking -- which I did. With it set up, I listened to several tracks of music and then several known movie scenes. In short, this sub is amazing! No more boomieness, no more muddy bass, no more bottoming out. Just clean, powerful, well integrated bass! I'm very happy!

Since it didn't happen without pictures, I've updated my room and A/V equipment pictures -- as well as my wiring diagram. Follow the links in my signature to have a look. I've also attached a small version of one of them to this message.

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I now have received my SB13-Ultra and have it installed and set up.


When I first set it up, I plugged it in and played a piece of music that I knew was bass heavy to see if the SB13-Ultra worked and to get an initial feel for it. I didn't know that it was sent from the factory set at reference level (I.e., '0'). Just about everything in the house was shaking. Walls, things on the walls, things on shelves - family room, kitchen, living room, etc. even the beer bottles in the refrigerator were clinking. After I did a ballpark calibration, I did some quick reference tests with movies and music. The bass is very powerful yet very clean. When I played he opening battle scene of Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith with my previous sub (Klipsch RSW-10D), it sounded is if something was wrong. As it turns out, it was bottoming out. The new subwoofer handled the scene with ease.

Last night, I had enough time to run YPAO on my Yamaha RX-A2010 to calibrate it. When I completed the auto calibration, I used a simple (IOS) SPL meter to see if the speakers were equally set. They were pretty good but needed some tweaking -- which I did. With it set up, I listened to several tracks of music and then several known movie scenes. In short, this sub is amazing! No more boomieness, no more muddy bass, no more bottoming out. Just clean, powerful, well integrated bass! I'm very happy!

Since it didn't happen without pictures, I've updated my room and A/V equipment pictures -- as well as my wiring diagram. Follow the links in my signature to have a look. I've also attached a small version of one of them to this message.

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Yes you right Klipsch sub at least what I had Klipsch sub12 is rumble and boom noise subs and SVS is a different league , clean, strong, accurate nice bass!!! Looks great in your living room, nice set up !!!! Enjoy

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I now have received my SB13-Ultra and have it installed and set up.


When I first set it up, I plugged it in and played a piece of music that I knew was bass heavy to see if the SB13-Ultra worked and to get an initial feel for it. I didn't know that it was sent from the factory set at reference level (I.e., '0'). Just about everything in the house was shaking. Walls, things on the walls, things on shelves - family room, kitchen, living room, etc. even the beer bottles in the refrigerator were clinking. After I did a ballpark calibration, I did some quick reference tests with movies and music. The bass is very powerful yet very clean. When I played he opening battle scene of Star Wars - Revenge of the Sith with my previous sub (Klipsch RSW-10D), it sounded is if something was wrong. As it turns out, it was bottoming out. The new subwoofer handled the scene with ease.

Last night, I had enough time to run YPAO on my Yamaha RX-A2010 to calibrate it. When I completed the auto calibration, I used a simple (IOS) SPL meter to see if the speakers were equally set. They were pretty good but needed some tweaking -- which I did. With it set up, I listened to several tracks of music and then several known movie scenes. In short, this sub is amazing! No more boomieness, no more muddy bass, no more bottoming out. Just clean, powerful, well integrated bass! I'm very happy!

Since it didn't happen without pictures, I've updated my room and A/V equipment pictures -- as well as my wiring diagram. Follow the links in my signature to have a look. I've also attached a small version of one of them to this message.

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did you toss that klipsCH?

What you got back home, little sister, to play your fuzzy warbles on? I bet you got little save pitiful, portable picnic players. Come with uncle and hear all proper! Hear angel trumpets and devil trombones. You are invited.
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IT even looks better!!!!

What you got back home, little sister, to play your fuzzy warbles on? I bet you got little save pitiful, portable picnic players. Come with uncle and hear all proper! Hear angel trumpets and devil trombones. You are invited.
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did you toss that klipsCH?

I may give it to one of my sons. He currently has a HTIB, so it would be step up for him.


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IT even looks better!!!!

I agree! My wife even likes it much better.


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Is that a Salamander triple twenty cabinet? If so then that's what I've got and I can see the scale as compared. I've been learning toward a Pb2000 but that size works.
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Is that a Salamander triple twenty cabinet? If so then that's what I've got and I can see the scale as compared. I've been learning toward a Pb2000 but that size works.

Yup. That's exactly what it is. It works very well here. BTW, we get lots of compliments from visitors who see it. We love our A/V furniture. I think you'd be happy with the SB13-Ultra.


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I was looking to pick up a used SVS sub with 4 years of warranty still on it. However the front cone has been damaged. How easy is it to replace the cone to see if it worth my while to try?
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I was looking to pick up a used SVS sub with 4 years of warranty still on it. However the front cone has been damaged. How easy is it to replace the cone to see if it worth my while to try?
Well question is what model of SVS sub. The best is call SVS and ask then how much will cost replace it.
Also question is for how much are you going to buy it? Sometimes is not even worth it to deal with it, SVS have many subs in outlet section for great price.

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I thought about it for awhile, and I think if SVS doesn't release a PC-2000 by the end of the year I'll just upgrade to the PC12-plus.
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I thought about it for awhile, and I think if SVS doesn't release a PC-2000 by the end of the year I'll just upgrade to the PC12-plus.
I'm sure you will be very happy with PC12-Plus !!!!

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Well question is what model of SVS sub. The best is call SVS and ask then how much will cost replace it.
Also question is for how much are you going to buy it? Sometimes is not even worth it to deal with it, SVS have many subs in outlet section for great price.
Sadly I live in Canada where I can't get the block. The cost is 400 for the sb12nsd piano. I just saw it today the the Canadian distributor sonic boom audio is off for the day.
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Well question is what model of SVS sub. The best is call SVS and ask then how much will cost replace it.
Also question is for how much are you going to buy it? Sometimes is not even worth it to deal with it, SVS have many subs in outlet section for great price.
Sadly I live in Canada where I can't get the b-stock. The cost is 400 for the sb12nsd piano. I just saw it today the the Canadian distributor sonic boom audio is off for the day.
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Still working on getting my SB13 dialed in through some more listening -- going to adjust my main crossover (as they are running full range), and try some different things. However, I'm starting thinking the SB doesn't have the guts for my large room. Not going to count it out, but was definitely hoping to go sealed as the SB13 is so easy to move around.

Question to those with STA-1000D amp -- is it usual for this thing to be non responsive unless it has a signal. Two times now I have had to either start playing content, or unplug the sub for 10+ seconds and repower -- in order to get the menus to come on when toggling with the select knob. This can't possibly be normal behavior??

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Sadly I live in Canada where I can't get the b-stock. The cost is 400 for the sb12nsd piano. I just saw it today the the Canadian distributor sonic boom audio is off for the day.
Oh ok sorry, the best will be to call or chat with SVS and ask them how much is a new cone and how difficult is replace is. I don't think is hard to replace it, you will be for sure able to do it yourself but not sure how much they will charge you for new cone and shipping. Then you will see if make since to get it or order new one.

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2nd SVS Sub Woofer received and installed

Last week I received and installed an SVS PC12 plus to pair off with my SVS 20-39 PC plus which I have had for over 6 years. I have a dedicated theater room 15 foot by 21 foot and 7 feet high with a 7.2 system (originally 7.1). I have an Outlaw amp (200 watts by 7) with a Marantz receiver used as a pre-amp. I really liked the SVS sound but after suffering from upgraditis I decided to purchase the second SW.

SVS support was great as they had me balance the volume of the 2 subs. After setting the receiver SW out to -3 dbs I raised the volume of each sub separately to 75 dbs using a sound meter). Playing both together the meter measured 81 dbs which was where the SVS advisor suggested that this was about right.

I then used the Audyssey setup in the Marantz to set up all the speakers which had been set to small (including the front towers) with a passover set at 80. I am now playing through blurays to see if I like the results. So far so good-the base sound is powerful but clean and is non-directional-you can't tell where it is coming from.

Kudos to SVS for their support.

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Last week I received and installed an SVS PC12 plus to pair off with my SVS 20-39 PC plus which I have had for over 6 years. I have a dedicated theater room 15 foot by 21 foot and 7 feet high with a 7.2 system (originally 7.1). I have an Outlaw amp (200 watts by 7) with a Marantz receiver used as a pre-amp. I really liked the SVS sound but after suffering from upgraditis I decided to purchase the second SW.

SVS support was great as they had me balance the volume of the 2 subs. After setting the receiver SW out to -3 dbs I raised the volume of each sub separately to 75 dbs using a sound meter). Playing both together the meter measured 81 dbs which was where the SVS advisor suggested that this was about right.

I then used the Audyssey setup in the Marantz to set up all the speakers which had been set to small (including the front towers) with a passover set at 80. I am now playing through blurays to see if I like the results. So far so good-the base sound is powerful but clean and is non-directional-you can't tell where it is coming from.

Kudos to SVS for their support.

John
Congrats John to your second sub. I have similar set up dual PC12-Pluses and it is exactly what I love it, you can't tell where bass coming from and they are deep , clean!!!
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Still working on getting my SB13 dialed in through some more listening -- going to adjust my main crossover (as they are running full range), and try some different things. However, I'm starting thinking the SB doesn't have the guts for my large room. Not going to count it out, but was definitely hoping to go sealed as the SB13 is so easy to move around.

Question to those with STA-1000D amp -- is it usual for this thing to be non responsive unless it has a signal. Two times now I have had to either start playing content, or unplug the sub for 10+ seconds and repower -- in order to get the menus to come on when toggling with the select knob. This can't possibly be normal behavior??
ALL speakers are non-responsive without a signal. Do you want to leave it on and turn on with a signal? Turn the Power Switch to On. Power Mode Toggle to Auto.
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:07 PM
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Still working on getting my SB13 dialed in through some more listening -- going to adjust my main crossover (as they are running full range), and try some different things. However, I'm starting thinking the SB doesn't have the guts for my large room. Not going to count it out, but was definitely hoping to go sealed as the SB13 is so easy to move around.

Question to those with STA-1000D amp -- is it usual for this thing to be non responsive unless it has a signal. Two times now I have had to either start playing content, or unplug the sub for 10+ seconds and repower -- in order to get the menus to come on when toggling with the select knob. This can't possibly be normal behavior??
I've had my SB13 for a couple of weeks and haven't had much problem. Don't know how large your room is but mine is about 3600 cu ft with two openings. So far the response is quite good and I'm assuming I'll recalibrate in another couple of weeks after it has loosened up.

Sorry, completely misread your second question. My humble apologies.
I agree it seems to be difficult to get the menu to appear. Pretty much have to do what you listed to get it to turn on.

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Question to those with STA-1000D amp -- is it usual for this thing to be non responsive unless it has a signal. Two times now I have had to either start playing content, or unplug the sub for 10+ seconds and repower -- in order to get the menus to come on when toggling with the select knob. This can't possibly be normal behavior??
I find to get the welcome screen to come up, I have to push the knob for a few seconds (this is normal I think). However, when the welcome screen appears, it quickly disappears before going into the menu. Further, it then takes a looooong time for the welcome screen to come back up by again pushing the knob -- but this time, when the welcome screen appears, it does then go into the menu and all is well. It's a pain but I control the sub via my A/V receiver, so after initial setup, I'll almost never touch the sub's internal menu.

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Just a quick note to pass along something that surprised me about the new SB13-Ultra that I just bought and have been posting about this past week. Although I expected for bass to be louder, cleaner and more powerful, I didn't expect the entire system to sound so much better. The system sounds much clearer, open and better overall - not just the bass but everything. I can't explain it but my wife has definitely noticed this too.

I'll stop now so I don't sound too much like a fanboy!
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Just a quick note to pas along something that surprised me about the new SB14-Ultra that I just bought and have been posting about this past week. Although I expected for bass to be louder, cleaner and more powerful, I didn't expect the entire system to sound so much better. The system sounds much clearer, open and better overall - not just the bass but everything. I can't explain it but my wife has definitely noticed this too.

I'll stop now so I don't sound too much like a fanboy!
That was my exact same thoughts after bringing the SB13 into my setup. Everything just sounded amazingly better. Congrats on your new Ultra.

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Just a quick note to pas along something that surprised me about the new SB13-Ultra that I just bought and have been posting about this past week. Although I expected for bass to be louder, cleaner and more powerful, I didn't expect the entire system to sound so much better. The system sounds much clearer, open and better overall - not just the bass but everything. I can't explain it but my wife has definitely noticed this too.
I had the same sensation when I added the SB-2000 to my system, in a smallish room. I did not get that impression with a PB-1000. That probably says more about the room than the PB1, however.
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