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post #17401 of 18824 Old 07-24-2014, 10:56 AM
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That gain setting seems to be about right. Do some listening and see how it sounds and if needed bump up the sub channel to 0db. If you still need more output then increase the gain on the sub to 0 and rerun Audyssey.
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Your in a large room so your settings on the sub seem correct. You might even have to run it at 0. I'm in a 2000 cu/ft room and it sets mine to -17. Although after getting my RF7II's I have bumped the sub volume to -10. Hits much harder now. The big drivers in the 7II's kinda drowned out the sub but now it's much better after bumping up the sub volume.
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I've just replaced my SB12 with an SB13, about 2 weeks ago.

Using a Denon 3808 as well, room is about 3600 cu.ft. with 3' and 4.5' openings on one side. My speakers are all Paradigm Millennia One's driven by the Denon.

I have run a full calibration but will re-run after about a month when the sub is broken in. I have the sub gain at -12 db and the calibration is at -1.5 db.

Hard to tell, but from your description it's possible that your room arrangement might absorb more energy than mine.
Thanks for the replies...

Figured it was due to my room size....I might try going to 0db, and rerunning the Audyssey.

I tend not to listen overly loud -- but will go to -15 on the AVR from time to time (for fun content -- did last night with the Michael Jackson blu-ray), and don't want to be driving the sub to it's limiters / compression.

Have an e-mail into SVS as well -- so shall see what they have to say...

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Your in a large room so your settings on the sub seem correct. You might even have to run it at 0. I'm in a 2000 cu/ft room and it sets mine to -17. Although after getting my RF7II's I have bumped the sub volume to -10. Hits much harder now. The big drivers in the 7II's kinda drowned out the sub but now it's much better after bumping up the sub volume.
Yeah i told you those RF-7 II are bass hitter's.They hit really nice .You have to watch war of the worlds with tome cruise.MAN THAT FILM IS REALLY BASS HITTING .Watch it on -10.00 dbs if you can .Idk if you can because i dont have any subwoofer's and you have 2,000 watts of pure hitting beast power. lol
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That is great !!! we told you you will not be disappointed. With those SVS subs you don't need to to be worry about bass you always get a lot!!!! Enjoy.
LOL Dont know what happened with the double post. Soz!

Yeah Im totally addicted to bass! Thanks guys and others in this thread!!! My wife wonders why I always buy action movies too Muhaha. My favorite is the digitally made bass sound effects like the opening scene in transformers with the helicopter blowing stuff up or Dredd Slo mo's and Oblivion when Tom Cruise falls into the hole.

The PC13-Ultra in Australia are $2,299 AUD. Im at $1,500 for random junk I can sell and thats a low respectable appraisal for the items too. Im now finding it tough for further items to get me to the goal I'm looking at the ps4 and all its bits and pieces LOL. Well I hardly play a game on it and I have a OPPO for blurays and other media content. I could easily go and buy the the sub with my debit card but Im trying this saving thing that normal sane people do. Plus my wife is testing me and my will power She thinks I will cave in LOL.

So its a used PS4 thats not used now OR a 2nd Awesome SVS PC13-Ultra.

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LOL Dont know what happened with the double post. Soz!

Yeah Im totally addicted to bass! Thanks guys and others in this thread!!! My wife wonders why I always buy action movies too Muhaha. My favorite is the digitally made bass sound effects like the opening scene in transformers with the helicopter blowing stuff up or Dredd Slo mo's and Oblivion when Tom Cruise falls into the hole.

The PC13-Ultra in Australia are $2,299 AUD. Im at $1,500 for random junk I can sell and thats a low respectable appraisal for the items too. Im now finding it tough for further items to get me to the goal I'm looking at the ps4 and all its bits and pieces LOL. Well I hardly play a game on it and I have a OPPO for blurays and other media content. I could easily go and buy the the sub with my debit card but Im trying this saving thing that normal sane people do. Plus my wife is testing me and my will power She thinks I will cave in LOL.

So its a used PS4 thats not used now OR a 2nd Awesome SVS PC13-Ultra.

Hmmm
I know what I'd do. Thumpity thump thump.
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[QUOTE=Chopin_Guy;26004242]So I received my SB13 Ultra yesterday evening and began to get it setup in my room...

What gain level do other SB13 users have their gain on??

Check the back of the sub and make sure the high level input switch is set to normal. Mine was set on high level which lowers output 6db. Also purchase a y-splitter 1 female to 2 male. This will give you an additional bump of 6db. The SB13 Ultra is a huge upgrade from the PC12 Plus. I like this sub so much I'm gonna go dual. It's like I upgraded every speaker in my home theater.
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So I received my SB13 Ultra yesterday evening and began to get it setup in my room...

What gain level do other SB13 users have their gain on??

Check the back of the sub and make sure the high level input switch is set to normal. Mine was set on high level which lowers output 6db. Also purchase a y-splitter 1 female to 2 male. This will give you an additional bump of 6db. The SB13 Ultra is a huge upgrade from the PC12 Plus. I like this sub so much I'm gonna go dual. It's like I upgraded every speaker in my home theater.
All the y-splitter on the inputs does is to increase the voltage to wake up the sub from its stand-by position.
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SVS Sub for Sale

How much do you guys think this SB-12 NSD should be selling for?
http://mankato.craigslist.org/ele/4585739131.html

I don't think $400 is a good price at all considering an SB-1000 is only $499

I've been kicking around the idea of adding a second sub and this looks like it would be an inexpensive way to start experimenting.
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How much do you guys think this SB-12 NSD should be selling for?
http://mankato.craigslist.org/ele/4585739131.html

I don't think $400 is a good price at all considering an SB-1000 is only $499

I've been kicking around the idea of adding a second sub and this looks like it would be an inexpensive way to start experimenting.
I think its an ok price for the piano finish. Plus it has a new amp. Their going for 549.00 with damage in the SVS outlet section. Try to get 350-375 for it. Tell him the warranty is almost expired. He may bite. Good luck!
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So I received my SB13 Ultra yesterday evening and began to get it setup in my room...

What gain level do other SB13 users have their gain on??

Check the back of the sub and make sure the high level input switch is set to normal. Mine was set on high level which lowers output 6db. Also purchase a y-splitter 1 female to 2 male. This will give you an additional bump of 6db. The SB13 Ultra is a huge upgrade from the PC12 Plus. I like this sub so much I'm gonna go dual. It's like I upgraded every speaker in my home theater.
What size room do you have the SB13 Ultra in? I am itching to upgrade from the PC12 Plus but I wasn't sure if it would be enough for my room (18x13) which opens to a small dining room (13x8) I really like the slam of ported and wasn't sure if sealed would work for me. 90% movies and Directv, 10% music.

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What size room do you have the SB13 Ultra in? I am itching to upgrade from the PC12 Plus but I wasn't sure if it would be enough for my room (18x13) which opens to a small dining room (13x8) I really like the slam of ported and wasn't sure if sealed would work for me. 90% movies and Directv, 10% music.
Tang -- I have the SB13 in a pretty large living room. My home is open floor plan, and it's living, breakfast, kitchen all open (12' ceilings) to a hallway 16' wide that runs the length of the house -- room itself is probably 20 x 25.

Until I have it dialed in properly I will reserve my complete comments -- but initial I can say it won't have the guts the PC12 has. I've owned a PB12+ (non-sledge) and had it in this same room -- and so far I can say that had more impact. I've done my initially listening to the Michael Jackson blu-ray since I know it well, and the SB13 just doesn't have the guts that ported can give in a big room.

I am going to rerun Audyssey now with the sub's gain all the way at 0 after talking with Ed at SVS, and we shall see how that resolves things...

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I have my PC13 in a 12x22 room. You definitely know it's there. Will be getting a second one around Christmas.

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I plan on putting ONE Pb-13 Ultra in my room that is just 9 x 11.Does anyone think that this is over kill mind you i have Klipsch RF-7 II lol and i already have a big amount of bass with those speaker's.So yeah let me know what your thought's are.If anyone think's i am crazy lol.
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I have room 15x14 now with open kitchen on one side and I got dual PC12-Pluses later my room will be bigger around 20x14 and dual Pluses will fill this room very easily.

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I plan on putting ONE Pb-13 Ultra in my room that is just 9 x 11.Does anyone think that this is over kill mind you i have Klipsch RF-7 II lol and i already have a big amount of bass with those speaker's.So yeah let me know what your thought's are.If anyone think's i am crazy lol.
Not much crazy just little
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I plan on putting ONE Pb-13 Ultra in my room that is just 9 x 11.Does anyone think that this is over kill mind you i have Klipsch RF-7 II lol and i already have a big amount of bass with those speaker's.So yeah let me know what your thought's are.If anyone think's i am crazy lol.
You're not crazy. And RF-7 II's can't go as low as a PB13-Ultra.
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I plan on putting ONE Pb-13 Ultra in my room that is just 9 x 11.Does anyone think that this is over kill mind you i have Klipsch RF-7 II lol and i already have a big amount of bass with those speaker's.So yeah let me know what your thought's are.If anyone think's i am crazy lol.
792 cu ft with a PB13 Ultra lol. Sounds like a good time to me!
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That what is great about SVS you have 45 days to play with it and you can always swap it for ported one. What happened to your PC12-Plus? You just have it for 45 days and send it back?
I still have it. It is past 45 days so I would have to pay shipping on both subs. I'm just trying to figure out if the SB13 would still give me even more slam then the PC12 plus.

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What size room do you have the SB13 Ultra in? I am itching to upgrade from the PC12 Plus but I wasn't sure if it would be enough for my room (18x13) which opens to a small dining room (13x8) I really like the slam of ported and wasn't sure if sealed would work for me. 90% movies and Directv, 10% music.
My room is 19x13 with an open hallway to kitchen. The Ultra does very good IMO. I still want one more to even out the bass and get that extra oomph to rattle my teeth. Then again it really comes down to how much of a basshead you truly are.

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What size room do you have the SB13 Ultra in? I am itching to upgrade from the PC12 Plus but I wasn't sure if it would be enough for my room (18x13) which opens to a small dining room (13x8) I really like the slam of ported and wasn't sure if sealed would work for me. 90% movies and Directv, 10% music.
How about to add second Plus if you like ported one it will give you on the end more then single Ultra.

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I still have it. It is past 45 days so I would have to pay shipping on both subs. I'm just trying to figure out if the SB13 would still give me even more slam then the PC12 plus.
Well it is easy just try it, if your budget is ok with it I will get single Ultra and another Plus, then you can have 45 days play time it is the best what you can do.

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I plan on putting ONE Pb-13 Ultra in my room that is just 9 x 11.Does anyone think that this is over kill mind you i have Klipsch RF-7 II lol and i already have a big amount of bass with those speaker's.So yeah let me know what your thought's are.If anyone think's i am crazy lol.
Crazy in your case is there to put that big boy in your room? It will be a huge add to your system PB13-Ultra even if your speakers can do some bass for sure.
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Did you tried before different SVS sub or did you jump straight to SB13-Ultra?
No I didn't try any other SVS subs beforehand. I just knew I wanted the Ultra driver and a small footprint because my room is fairly small. I also owned previous ported subs in the past and wanted something different.

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No I didn't try any other SVS subs beforehand. I just knew I wanted the Ultra driver and a small footprint because my room is fairly small. I also owned previous ported subs in the past and wanted something different.
Oh ok I was just curious. I had same felling like you did before I kept my subs. Are you planning to add second one?

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Hi All...

have just received the PB12-plus... set it up.. and turned it on.. first impression was.. wow.. there's so much improvement on overall performance of the system.. even the dialog also improved.. espescially on movies like transformes.. I also tried the test tone below 20 Hz.. and the whole rooms shakes ...

anyway.. i still try to find out if i can optimize the configuration.. my room size is 15x11x9 feet (wxdxh)..
volume: 18 db (or is it 17.. need to check back)
audissey sets the sub at:
AVR: -5.5 db
main speakers are at +1.0 db..

can i raise the setting on AVR manually to have more bass? or is it better to increase the volume at the sub?

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Hi All...

have just received the PB12-plus... set it up.. and turned it on.. first impression was.. wow.. there's so much improvement on overall performance of the system.. even the dialog also improved.. espescially on movies like transformes.. I also tried the test tone below 20 Hz.. and the whole rooms shakes ...

anyway.. i still try to find out if i can optimize the configuration.. my room size is 15x11x9 feet (wxdxh)..
volume: 18 db (or is it 17.. need to check back)
audissey sets the sub at:
AVR: -5.5 db
main speakers are at +1.0 db..

can i raise the setting on AVR manually to have more bass? or is it better to increase the volume at the sub?

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You can increase the sub volume in the AVR to 0 but I wouldnt go any higher.
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Oh ok I was just curious. I had same felling like you did before I kept my subs. Are you planning to add second one?
Yes I'm getting a second one for sure. When? It'll be awhile lol.

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Hi All...

have just received the PB12-plus... set it up.. and turned it on.. first impression was.. wow.. there's so much improvement on overall performance of the system.. even the dialog also improved.. espescially on movies like transformes.. I also tried the test tone below 20 Hz.. and the whole rooms shakes ...

anyway.. i still try to find out if i can optimize the configuration.. my room size is 15x11x9 feet (wxdxh)..
volume: 18 db (or is it 17.. need to check back)
audissey sets the sub at:
AVR: -5.5 db
main speakers are at +1.0 db..

can i raise the setting on AVR manually to have more bass? or is it better to increase the volume at the sub?

Thanks
Congrats to your new sub!!! It is amazing to see SVS in Indonesia!!!!
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Yes I'm getting a second one for sure. When? It'll be awhile lol.

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I think its an ok price for the piano finish. Plus it has a new amp. Their going for 549.00 with damage in the SVS outlet section. Try to get 350-375 for it. Tell him the warranty is almost expired. He may bite. Good luck!
The warranty is expired. Back then SVS only had a 3 year warranty.
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How much do you guys think this SB-12 NSD should be selling for?
http://mankato.craigslist.org/ele/4585739131.html

I don't think $400 is a good price at all considering an SB-1000 is only $499

I've been kicking around the idea of adding a second sub and this looks like it would be an inexpensive way to start experimenting.
4 years old, he's the second owner? I'd offer him $300 or $350. Worst he can say is "no"
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