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It's your setup. If you like it, don't worry about what other people say. People like HTIB's to Popalock system. Telling someone that their system is stupid is just a reflection upon themselves. Enjoy the music!
Thanks, that's exactly what I think. I'm not judging anyone's setup here. Have fun and enjoy!
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Thanks, that's exactly what I think. I'm not judging anyone's setup here. Have fun and enjoy!
No criticism at all, but I did wonder how you get all the equipment into the room, not to mention chairs? A pic would be terrific, I'd love to see what it looks like. Wouldn't mind hearing it either, but from Denver the impact probably wouldn't be that great.
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Yes a picture or two would be cool.
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Yes a picture or two would be cool.
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That setup must shift internal organs
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lol yeah sometimes.
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Just a quick note to pass along something that surprised me about the new SB13-Ultra that I just bought and have been posting about this past week. Although I expected for bass to be louder, cleaner and more powerful, I didn't expect the entire system to sound so much better. The system sounds much clearer, open and better overall - not just the bass but everything. I can't explain it but my wife has definitely noticed this too.

I'll stop now so I don't sound too much like a fanboy!
Yeah I had this same feeling when I got my PS12-NSD. I'm sure a lot went into it. Having good room correction software, towers and center, and sub can really make audio shine. I've been told this, having a good sub and the crossovers set correctly, it allows the sub to handle the hard stuff. It actually made my mid-bass punchier. Maybe that's because the towers can focus more on that. It's pretty amazing though.
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Thank you all for your positive comments. My emotional and stupid room is downright incredible. Perhaps if you all could visit you would feel and think differently. And I like the daft comment. Yes I am daft lol.
No, I do not think your setup is in anyway "stupid" (overkill maybe, but then there's nothing wrong with that... headroom is a good thing... and you have a lot of a good thing). Yes, I am jealous of your subs. And may I offer my condolences to your neighbors...
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No, I do not think your setup is in anyway "stupid" (overkill maybe, but then there's nothing wrong with that... headroom is a good thing... and you have a lot of a good thing). Yes, I am jealous of your subs. And may I offer my condolences to your neighbors...
Funny you mention the neighbors. Since I have moved to the country that has not been a problem (before yes). Now, only my wife complains.
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yes sealed mode means all 3 ports sealed with foam cap and before you play it change on Sub amp from 16hz to sealed mode!!!! Mode ca be 20Hz, 16Hz or sealed on sub amp). Then rerun Audysey if you have AVR able to do it and you are ready to play in sealed mode!!!

Thanks for the help Retro. I prefer the new sealed mode sound and it's closer to what I'm looking for. I do have a few questions I'm hoping either you or someone else on this thread can help with. I have a 7.1 surround setup and I ran the MCACC on my Pioneer Elite SC-75 Receiver, which is their version of Audyssey. When it was finished, it had my Fronts and Center set to Large, with my Rears and Surrounds set to small. I've ran this before with the PB-12 Ultra and it always sets my fronts and center to large. I've always changed it back to small. Is this correct?? My Center is an AXIOM Audio VP-150 and my Towers are Axiom Audio M60's. Also, I have my speakers set to 100HZ. That's where the calibration put them. Not sure if that should be changed either.


Now there's some options I'm not exactly sure about and would like to get an opinion on where I should set them with my current setup. One of the options it gives me right before running the calibration is whether or not my speakers are THX. It says, "THX Speaker" and I can choose on or off. I kept it at off because I'm not sure if they are and what exactly that would do. The other setting I wasn't sure of deals with the subwoofer. There's an option after the calibration called "THX Select 2 SW" which is set to yes. Should I have the PB-12 set for THX Select 2? Whether I should or shouldn't, what exactly do I gain or lose from this. Thanks for the help!

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Noah.. on blue ray disc .. watched it last night Wow.. awesome bass track and lots of them....


added bonus great movie as well..


I think a new standard for testing out your subs for movies
enjoy the show
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Yes. I agree. The SB13-Ultra performed very well.
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I also watched Noah last night. The bass was Wow!! SB13 performed flawlessly. Some very bass heavy scenes to say the least. Main volume was at -10.

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I also watched Noah last night. The bass was Wow!! SB13 performed flawlessly. Some very bass heavy scenes to say the least. Main volume was at -10.
Had a movie going and decided to run into the kitchen and skip the previews. Whole place started vibrating I was like . I ran back to the TV to find it was the Noah preview. Watched the preview 3 times. Can't wait to get my hand on the movie. Impressive.

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Thanks for the help Retro. I prefer the new sealed mode sound and it's closer to what I'm looking for. I do have a few questions I'm hoping either you or someone else on this thread can help with. I have a 7.1 surround setup and I ran the MCACC on my Pioneer Elite SC-75 Receiver, which is their version of Audyssey. When it was finished, it had my Fronts and Center set to Large, with my Rears and Surrounds set to small. I've ran this before with the PB-12 Ultra and it always sets my fronts and center to large. I've always changed it back to small. Is this correct?? My Center is an AXIOM Audio VP-150 and my Towers are Axiom Audio M60's. Also, I have my speakers set to 100HZ. That's where the calibration put them. Not sure if that should be changed either.


Now there's some options I'm not exactly sure about and would like to get an opinion on where I should set them with my current setup. One of the options it gives me right before running the calibration is whether or not my speakers are THX. It says, "THX Speaker" and I can choose on or off. I kept it at off because I'm not sure if they are and what exactly that would do. The other setting I wasn't sure of deals with the subwoofer. There's an option after the calibration called "THX Select 2 SW" which is set to yes. Should I have the PB-12 set for THX Select 2? Whether I should or shouldn't, what exactly do I gain or lose from this. Thanks for the help!
All receivers automatically set up front speakers as large some people like it like this but since you have very nice sub I will change them to small. I did it to all my speakers and all are set to 80Hz for now. I need to play with it little more but 80Hz is good start point. Well if your speakers have THX label I will turn it ON if not leave it off. I just don't know what to tell you about "THX Select 2 SW" try Pioneer forum I never owned Pioneer AVR and on Denon X4000 what you do is choice if you have 1 or 2 subs and all is done by Audysey.

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Had a movie going and decided to run into the kitchen and skip the previews. Whole place started vibrating I was like . I ran back to the TV to find it was the Noah preview. Watched the preview 3 times. Can't wait to get my hand on the movie. Impressive.
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All receivers automatically set up front speakers as large some people like it like this but since you have very nice sub I will change them to small. I did it to all my speakers and all are set to 80Hz for now. I need to play with it little more but 80Hz is good start point. Well if your speakers have THX label I will turn it ON if not leave it off. I just don't know what to tell you about "THX Select 2 SW" try Pioneer forum I never owned Pioneer AVR and on Denon X4000 what you do is choice if you have 1 or 2 subs and all is done by Audysey.
Thanks. I'll try 80hz to see if there's a difference. I asked about that on the Pioneer forums but no answer yet. I'll just keep it on for now. Lastly, I've never adjusted the phase on the sub. Pretty sure its at 0. Should that be something I adjust??

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Thanks. I'll try 80hz to see if there's a difference. I asked about that on the Pioneer forums but no answer yet. I'll just keep it on for now. Lastly, I've never adjusted the phase on the sub. Pretty sure its at 0. Should that be something I adjust??
I will leave it like it was. Only what you can do if you want to have more bass when your system is completely calibrated you can adjust volume on sub or on receiver for sub little more then set up is, some people like me like it little more hot then Audysey or your system will set it up.

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I will leave it like it was. Only what you can do if you want to have more bass when your system is completely calibrated you can adjust volume on sub or on receiver for sub little more then set up is, some people like me like it little more hot then Audysey or your system will set it up.
I turned the volume directly on the sub itself up four notches after the calibration was finished

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I turned the volume directly on the sub itself up four notches after the calibration was finished
when I calibrated my PC12-Pluses my AVR set them up -18db so a raise volume on each 3db up so now I'm -15db on both, I called before SVS and asked them what I can do and they said this is what will work great and it does.

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I turned the volume directly on the sub itself up four notches after the calibration was finished
According to Audyssey users that will screw up the calibration/equalization.

You need to set the sub gain so that Audyssey comes back with a result of around -5db or so, then if you want more bass raise the output in the AVR, NOT on the sub.

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According to Audyssey users that will screw up the calibration/equalization.

You need to set the sub gain so that Audyssey comes back with a result of around -5db or so, then if you want more bass raise the output in the AVR, NOT on the sub.
Oh really, many people told me it is doesn't mater it is just easier do it with remote on AVR then on sub.
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I commented on you video.But you did not comment back.I have to ask what film's have you watched so far and what is your thought's about this subwoofer.I cant wait to get mine soon.But it would be nice to know your thought's.
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I commented on you video.But you did not comment back.I have to ask what film's have you watched so far and what is your thought's about this subwoofer.I cant wait to get mine soon.But it would be nice to know your thought's.

Apologies for not commenting back. My review will be up sometime tomm. Stay tuned.
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According to Audyssey users that will screw up the calibration/equalization.

You need to set the sub gain so that Audyssey comes back with a result of around -5db or so, then if you want more bass raise the output in the AVR, NOT on the sub.
When I called SVS about the initial startup, the guy I spoke with said its better to have the volume higher on the sub itself rather than the AVR. For example, He recommended that if my sub was at -12db and after calibration the AVR had the sub at -10, to go ahead and turn the sub volume up and then counteract it on the AVR. Not sure if that makes sense

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Well after spending more time with my SB13 lot's of listening with material I know well, I will be sending it back to SVS for a PB13. I was holding out hope it would provide a satisfying experience in my large room, but it's lacking in the lower octave. This is certainly no knock against the SB13 -- I knew I was taking a gamble with SB13 given my room is 6,200ft^3. This is a wonderfully powerful, articulate, and dynamic subwoofer -- and should be considered by anyone who has the appropriate room or listening habits. However, in my large space it's an unbalanced presentation as above 50hz the SB13 is great -- below 50hz everything simply gets lost in my room.

Owned a rosenut BASH PB13 years ago -- will look forward to seeing the difference the PB13 will make -- especially in the movie department...

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Well after spending more time with my SB13 and listening to lots of material I know well, I will be sending it back to SVS for a PB13. I was holding out hope it would provide a satisfying experience in my large room, but it's lacking in the lower octave. This is certainly no knock against the SB13 -- I knew I was taking a gamble with SB13 given my room is 6,200ft^3. This is a wonderfully powerful, articulate, and dynamic subwoofer -- and should be considered by anyone who has the appropriate room or listening habits. However, in my large space it's an unbalanced presentation as above 50hz the SB13 is great -- below 50hz everything simply gets lost in my room.

Owned a rosenut BASH PB13 years ago -- will look forward to seeing the difference the sledge PB13 will make -- especially in the movie department...

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