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Dual Ultras is the best you can get from SVS so why not. No reason to buy 2 together. Just get one enjoy for little wild and add second later on. I planned to do same but I got excellent deal on dual Pluses since my 2 shipping damage delivery so it is why I kept 2 subs in same time. Otherwise I will buy just one and add second later on who knows.
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I'm making plans to turn a spare bedroom into a dedicated theater and would be running my PC12+ in there. Room is a little bit bigger (11 x 12) but really is in the same ballpark. Considering how powerful my sub is in the much larger living room I'm not at all worried about headroom in such a small room. You've got the ultra to boot, so i really don't think you'll have an issue. An Ultra is going to rock that room. As for even bass, there is an argument to be made there, but I still tend to think you'll likely be okay.
I agree with both sets of comments above. Get one ultra sub now and pick up the second one later when your budget allows it and your home theater demands it. That's what I did.

I am also always asking myself what my HT will look like in a couple of years and making sure that my speakers, subs, and amps will still fit the room I am thinking of. I moved from an apartment into a small house and then to a larger house in the space of a few years, so the HT that I had in my apartment was no longer suitable in the larger house. So if you already know that you will be moving your HT to a larger room, get the sub that will fill that space with bass now so that you don't have to upgrade a year from now. You can always dial down the Ultra to suit your current room if it is too loud.

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Enjoy your Ultra, they are fabulous subs.
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I paid $113 tax for my PC13-Ultra from SVS. I live in Buffalo.
In new york state tax percentage is about 8 percent or more 8.75 percent.buying home theater gear in store is alot of money in taxs in new york state.i went on svs and the taxs for a pb-13 ultra was about 200 or less in just taxes.I find this to be utterley foolish to pay for something my state charges only for there greed because i am bring in something that is over 2000 buck's.No way if taxes were 50 to 100 buck's then maybe just maybe i would do it.i was told that svs would get the ultra to me in 2 day's too while onecall would take me 5 day's.both come by frate so yeah just different frate carriers.So idk i mean i could wait a week to pay zero taxs and free shipping and still the same full warrenty from svs.The only thing onecall does not do and svs wont do for onecall is that thing that people do were if svs makes a new sub you can bring it back in that one year and get the better subwoofer.It's pointless really because if i am getting a pb-13 ultra it's makes not sense because a ultra is the best one they make.so yeah at the ed of the day it's about choice's.if svs did not let onecall use the full 5 year warrenty part and labor then yes i would for sure say the hell with the taxs and bought from svs direct.
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In new york state tax percentage is about 8 percent or more 8.75 percent.buying home theater gear in store is alot of money in taxs in new york state.i went on svs and the taxs for a pb-13 ultra was about 200 or less in just taxes.I find this to be utterley foolish to pay for something my state charges only for there greed because i am bring in something that is over 2000 buck's.No way if taxes were 50 to 100 buck's then maybe just maybe i would do it.i was told that svs would get the ultra to me in 2 day's too while onecall would take me 5 day's.both come by frate so yeah just different frate carriers.So idk i mean i could wait a week to pay zero taxs and free shipping and still the same full warrenty from svs.The only thing onecall does not do and svs wont do for onecall is that thing that people do were if svs makes a new sub you can bring it back in that one year and get the better subwoofer.It's pointless really because if i am getting a pb-13 ultra it's makes not sense because a ultra is the best one they make.so yeah at the ed of the day it's about choice's.if svs did not let onecall use the full 5 year warrenty part and labor then yes i would for sure say the hell with the taxs and bought from svs direct.
The NY State Sales tax rate is 8% For a $2000 PB13-Ultra, that is $160 in taxes. (My NYS Sales Tax for an SB13-Ultra with the isolation system feet was $131.92). Your choice of course, but if you don't buy your sub at SVS, you may forfeit the 45-day free trial and refund as well as the free return shipping and probably the ability to use the full-value trade-up for 1-year too.

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Most states are 7%. Another 1% doesnt exactly seem outrageous.
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In new york state tax percentage is about 8 percent or more 8.75 percent.buying home theater gear in store is alot of money in taxs in new york state.i went on svs and the taxs for a pb-13 ultra was about 200 or less in just taxes.I find this to be utterley foolish to pay for something my state charges only for there greed because i am bring in something that is over 2000 buck's.No way if taxes were 50 to 100 buck's then maybe just maybe i would do it.i was told that svs would get the ultra to me in 2 day's too while onecall would take me 5 day's.both come by frate so yeah just different frate carriers.So idk i mean i could wait a week to pay zero taxs and free shipping and still the same full warrenty from svs.The only thing onecall does not do and svs wont do for onecall is that thing that people do were if svs makes a new sub you can bring it back in that one year and get the better subwoofer.It's pointless really because if i am getting a pb-13 ultra it's makes not sense because a ultra is the best one they make.so yeah at the ed of the day it's about choice's.if svs did not let onecall use the full 5 year warrenty part and labor then yes i would for sure say the hell with the taxs and bought from svs direct.
Try 20% VAT in the UK.

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In new york state tax percentage is about 8 percent or more 8.75 percent.buying home theater gear in store is alot of money in taxs in new york state.i went on svs and the taxs for a pb-13 ultra was about 200 or less in just taxes.I find this to be utterley foolish to pay for something my state charges only for there greed because i am bring in something that is over 2000 buck's.No way if taxes were 50 to 100 buck's then maybe just maybe i would do it.i was told that svs would get the ultra to me in 2 day's too while onecall would take me 5 day's.both come by frate so yeah just different frate carriers.So idk i mean i could wait a week to pay zero taxs and free shipping and still the same full warrenty from svs.The only thing onecall does not do and svs wont do for onecall is that thing that people do were if svs makes a new sub you can bring it back in that one year and get the better subwoofer.It's pointless really because if i am getting a pb-13 ultra it's makes not sense because a ultra is the best one they make.so yeah at the ed of the day it's about choice's.if svs did not let onecall use the full 5 year warrenty part and labor then yes i would for sure say the hell with the taxs and bought from svs direct.
Consider the sales tax an early welcome to adulthood, lol
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Consider the sales tax an early welcome to adulthood, lol
Or a downpayment on student loans and grants.
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I dont like Onecall, they looks like a good company but they are not. Many items what they sell there is no warranty, like open boxes from Klipsch. Customer service is terryble!!!! I will better suck tax from
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I have bought my RF62II's, RC64II, SVS Sb13 Ultra, and Panamax 5300PM conditioner from OneCall. Their customer support is very professional and I bargained with them on phone and saved over 1000.00 off of retail prices on all of what I mentioned except the SVS of course. Great company and have done me good. In fact it is my favorite store to shop online
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I have bought my RF62II's, RC64II, SVS Sb13 Ultra, and Panamax 5300PM conditioner from OneCall. Their customer support is very professional and I bargained with them on phone and saved over 1000.00 off of retail prices on all of what I mentioned except the SVS of course. Great company and have done me good. In fact it is my favorite store to shop online
Good for you, well I don't have that experience but that is fine.
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Good for you, well I don't have that experience but that is fine.
retro124 what do you mean you dont have that experience your a good person.You helped me out before with your comment's.on were to buy you have a smart mind bro.
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I have bought my RF62II's, RC64II, SVS Sb13 Ultra, and Panamax 5300PM conditioner from OneCall. Their customer support is very professional and I bargained with them on phone and saved over 1000.00 off of retail prices on all of what I mentioned except the SVS of course. Great company and have done me good. In fact it is my favorite store to shop online
Yeah i agree onecall is a very good place to shop for home theater gear.I am glad i found someone who ordered there svs sub at onecall.I guess i wont be alone too.i ordered my marantz SR7007 from onecall a few month's back and it's wonderful.infact i got it for 1,000 bucks free shipping zero taxs.That receiver is worth 1,899 easy.
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retro124 what do you mean you dont have that experience your a good person.You helped me out before with your comment's.on were to buy you have a smart mind bro.
I think he meant he had a bad experience with OneCall in general.

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I think he meant he had a bad experience with OneCall in general.
yeah seaker on onecall again.You said you ordered your svs sb-13 ultras from onecall .How long did it take you to get both of them.and who was the frate company that shipped it out.
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yeah seaker on onecall again.You said you ordered your svs sb-13 ultras from onecall .How long did it take you to get both of them.and who was the frate company that shipped it out.
I only have one Ultra. It came fedex. The driver even helped me carry it into my house. Box in perfect condition thankfully. Took only 3-4 days to get here.

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retro124 what do you mean you dont have that experience your a good person.You helped me out before with your comment's.on were to buy you have a smart mind bro.
I was just talking about Onecall, i just think there is better companies then them but it is my personal thought, no reason to fight over it. If onecall for SVS works for you go for it.

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I was just talking about Onecall, i just think there is better companies then them but it is my personal thought, no reason to fight over it. If onecall for SVS works for you go for it.
I just know if shipping will have damage it will be much longer process to return then with SVS it is extra fast and easy but if you can save some $$$ on tax then buy it there.

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I think he meant he had a bad experience with OneCall in general.
Not really a bad one but just know for Klipsch speakers are there better companies then them a specially when you need expert help an all open boxes speakers from them have no warranties and lets say Sound distributors even on open box provide warranty it is all.
SVS sub if is possible is just better to buy from SVS better for customer. I did not know before joseph10704 need to pay tax on it is bought from SVS.

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[Last week I received and installed an SVS PC12 plus to pair off with my SVS 20-39 PC plus which I have had for over 6 years. I have a dedicated theater room 15 foot by 21 foot and 7 feet high with a 7.2 system (originally 7.1). I have an Outlaw amp (200 watts by 7) with a Marantz receiver used as a pre-amp. I really liked the SVS sound but after suffering from upgraditis I decided to purchase the second SW.

SVS support was great as they had me balance the volume of the 2 subs. After setting the receiver SW out to -3 dbs I raised the volume of each sub separately to 75 dbs using a sound meter). Playing both together the meter measured 81 dbs which was where the SVS advisor suggested that this was about right.

I then used the Audyssey setup in the Marantz to set up all the speakers which had been set to small (including the front towers) with a passover set at 80. I am now playing through blurays to see if I like the results. So far so good-the base sound is powerful but clean and is non-directional-you can't tell where it is coming from.

Kudos to SVS for their support.

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Anyone tried the infamous grenade scene in World War Z? I watched the movie the other night with my svs pb-2000 and I got some serious 'port' chuffing' with that scene. Except for the chuffing it did sound awesome though.


So is chuffing the result of a poorly designed ported cabinet or is it the driver bottoming out?
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Anyone tried the infamous grenade scene in World War Z? I watched the movie the other night with my svs pb-2000 and I got some serious 'port' chuffing' with that scene. Except for the chuffing it did sound awesome though.


So is chuffing the result of a poorly designed ported cabinet or is it the driver bottoming out?
Chuffing occurs when the sub is displacing more air than the ports can handle. Over-driving the design, not bottoming out.
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Add a second PB-2000.

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The thought did cross my mind.
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Anyone tried the infamous grenade scene in World War Z? I watched the movie the other night with my svs pb-2000 and I got some serious 'port' chuffing' with that scene. Except for the chuffing it did sound awesome though.


So is chuffing the result of a poorly designed ported cabinet or is it the driver bottoming out?
Make sure the port isn't close to a wall.
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Anyone tried the infamous grenade scene in World War Z? I watched the movie the other night with my svs pb-2000 and I got some serious 'port' chuffing' with that scene. Except for the chuffing it did sound awesome though.


So is chuffing the result of a poorly designed ported cabinet or is it the driver bottoming out?
Did you by chance have dynamic EQ in use at the time of chuffing? Because if so its because your asking more of the sub then you can at those frequencies
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Anyone tried the infamous grenade scene in World War Z? I watched the movie the other night with my svs pb-2000 and I got some serious 'port' chuffing' with that scene. Except for the chuffing it did sound awesome though.


So is chuffing the result of a poorly designed ported cabinet or is it the driver bottoming out?
Either the sub volume is to high or you like to listen to movies at very high levels in that case when you run into some sub level bass your pushing your sub to much. My suggestion go with a bigger sub like the PB12 Plus or Ultra or switched to a big sealed sub. I use to own ported subs and hated the chuffing so went with sealed.

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Did you by chance have dynamic EQ in use at the time of chuffing? Because if so its because your asking more of the sub then you can at those frequencies

Turning off the dynamic EQ helps but I much prefer it on, it adds a lot more dynamics to the sound with better imaging. Most of the time the bass is fine though with no chuffing, it's only been with that one scene so far. I've watched other bass heavy movies like Gravity and War of the Worlds and didn't notice any chuffing but I guess if I want to keep the bass at my current level and not have any I will need to look at something more powerful or add more subwoofers.

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From what I read about it infamous grenade scene in World War Z ( is very hard scene for sub), is the one scene with port chuffing trouble, few people before said that here also, I need to watch it to find out if I will have this also.

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Either the sub volume is to high or you like to listen to movies at very high levels in that case when you run into some sub level bass your pushing your sub to much. My suggestion go with a bigger sub like the PB12 Plus or Ultra or switched to a big sealed sub. I use to own ported subs and hated the chuffing so went with sealed.
What is the size of your room with sb13ultra in it? I have 2xsb12 and i am playing with thought of selling one and getting sb13ultra and keep one sb12 to smooth the response...i just need a little more impact down low...my room is around 1600cubic feet
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Just curious if anyone has found that calibrating with the sub PEQ before running Audyssey netted much better results than just Audyssey.
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Turning off the dynamic EQ helps but I much prefer it on, it adds a lot more dynamics to the sound with better imaging. Most of the time the bass is fine though with no chuffing, it's only been with that one scene so far. I've watched other bass heavy movies like Gravity and War of the Worlds and didn't notice any chuffing but I guess if I want to keep the bass at my current level and not have any I will need to look at something more powerful or add more subwoofers.
Thats because deq is boosting the bass at 15-20 hertz as much as 15 db and if your already running it hot on top of that amount that sub just doesnt have the output. I have 2 12+s and I still get chuffing when at reference level in the 15 to 20 hertz range but only with my subs 5 db hot and tuned to 16 hz .
I just this weekend switched to 20 hertz to free up some headroom because I was pushing to much air through the 2 ports( more air then a fan puts out lol) I could feel the air from about 7 feet away. Now theres more air but more port room to help
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