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This approach is not "the proper way" and should not be posted as gospel. It is fine to do it that way but many people also think its fine to adjust the sub volume at the sub after running the room correction software in the AVR. Preferable even.
Hmm ok so first you say it's not the proper way then turn around and say it is fine to do it that way?

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Hmm ok so first you say it's not the proper way then turn around and say it is fine to do it that way?
"Proper" as in the ONLY correct suggested way. It would suggest that any other way would be "improper".
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Yesterday I talked about setting and adjust sub volume. It is better to do it on sub or AVR? Find this very helpful, you can do it on both, if you want to add sub volume just little after Audyssey is done do it on AVR ( but not all the way to +12db) but if you really like more bass for all what you watch and listen it is better to adjust it also sub volume on sub a little ( skip 75db matching step before Audyssey start calibrated and try to leave it on 82db or around what you preffer)

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This approach is not "the proper way" and should not be posted as gospel. It is fine to do it that way but many people also think its fine to adjust the sub volume at the sub after running the room correction software in the AVR. Preferable even.
It is according to the Audyssey experts. I don't have an Audyssey equipped AVR I'm just passing on what those that do have it say is the proper way.

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I need anyone help .Ok as you all know well some of you.I own Klipsch RF-7 II setup hooed up with a center RC-64 II And for the surround's they are RS-62 II .Now before i added the surround a few days ago.I had a good amount of bass with just haveing the 3.0 setup .The RF-7 II were giveing me a big amount of bass.But right now i feel adding the surround's gave me just more surround sound's now and less bass.I thought i could get the bass back with looking in the setting's of my marantz receiver but i find the bass i had before is a little gone.My question really is if adding the surround's can i lose some bass i had before with adding the surround's.Mind you i do not onw a svs sub just yet and i plan i getting a pb13-ultra for usre now.But yeah can someone please give me some help.
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"Proper" as in the ONLY correct suggested way. It would suggest that any other way would be "improper".
Either way doesn't matter as long as you stay at 0 or in the negative after audyssey calibration. If your in the plus after calibration then turn sub gain up! Easy peezy!

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Either way doesn't matter as long as you stay at 0 or in the negative after audyssey calibration. If your in the plus after calibration then turn sub gain up! Easy peezy!
Pretty much. But not everyone has Audyssey. And if youre in the plus after calibration you should really turn up the sub and rerun the room correction software. That will accomplish what you stated in the first sentence.
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I need anyone help .Ok as you all know well some of you.I own Klipsch RF-7 II setup hooed up with a center RC-64 II And for the surround's they are RS-62 II .Now before i added the surround a few days ago.I had a good amount of bass with just haveing the 3.0 setup .The RF-7 II were giveing me a big amount of bass.But right now i feel adding the surround's gave me just more surround sound's now and less bass.I thought i could get the bass back with looking in the setting's of my marantz receiver but i find the bass i had before is a little gone.My question really is if adding the surround's can i lose some bass i had before with adding the surround's.Mind you i do not onw a svs sub just yet and i plan i getting a pb13-ultra for usre now.But yeah can someone please give me some help.
Where do you have your crossovers set?

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Where do you have your crossovers set?
I think m center speaker and surround are set to 60htz .Should i change them to a different setting.I dont have a bass so yeah maybe that's why.
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I think m center speaker and surround are set to 60htz .Should i change them to a different setting.I dont have a bass so yeah maybe that's why.
You are probably losing some mid bass because you are telling the speaker to only do sound above 60. If you can set them to large and full range that's what you want to do without a sub. I hope I remember that correctly.

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Yeah I had this same feeling when I got my PS12-NSD. I'm sure a lot went into it. Having good room correction software, towers and center, and sub can really make audio shine. I've been told this, having a good sub and the crossovers set correctly, it allows the sub to handle the hard stuff. It actually made my mid-bass punchier. Maybe that's because the towers can focus more on that. It's pretty amazing though.
I found the exact same thing with the SB12-NSD that I demo'ed for about two weeks. Everything about the bookshelf's was so much clearer, tighter, and and I even suspect that the sound stage improved as well.

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Does anyone know any other company's that use sledge amps for there subwoofer's.I was told by a few people over the phone that the only company who use sledge amps are company's that sell expensive subwoofer.That being said i feel this is why svs sell's so many sub's at such of a good price because of the what the put inside there sub's.can someone explain more.I would like to know.
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Does anyone know any other company's that use sledge amps for there subwoofer's.I was told by a few people over the phone that the only company who use sledge amps are company's that sell expensive subwoofer.That being said i feel this is why svs sell's so many sub's at such of a good price because of the what the put inside there sub's.can someone explain more.I would like to know.
Just visit some other subs web sites and read about amps. Many companies sell still Bash amp, witch is older SVS amp. Many people love Sledge amp and I'm one of them. It is digital displey set up, XLR connection, stronger amp at least in SVS models, better technology, maybe? My two 8 years old Klipsch subs had Bash amp so I'm just guessing Bash amp is getting out of market slowly and Sledge amp is next generation but maybe I'm wrong. I really don't care that much about it, SVS is just perfect for what I need and if Sledge amp helps good for them and us!!!
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I have had the PB12NSD for a few weeks now, and I have to say wow. I love the flat, deep, tight sound. It does make my towers sound better. I'm guessing because there is not muddy bass drowning out the higher frequency sounds from the towers and center. I was watching a movie with my wife where there was a sudden explosion. It scared us to death! The bass was deep and strong, but not over done. Gravity must have some deep bass that you can feel and not hear, because some of those scenes I was feeling pulsing on my chest. That is exactly the tactile feel I was hoping for. Well done SVS! Time to watch all the movies in my collection all over again.
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Hi All

I need to get a pair of rear surround speakers to go with my B&W 803 Nautilus S2 LCR. They need to be speakers that I can place on stands since my living room does not allow me to install any speakers on walls. In addition, the rears would be very close to my seating position, perhaps 3 feet from the main listening position. If I went with matching B&W speakers, it would have to be the 805 D2 which is a lot of money. So I'm thinking of trying the SVS ultra surround to see if it would work in my home theater. Any thoughts on how this combination would work? Also, any advice on whether to go with the bipole/dipole set-up in my situation where the speaker will be close to my listening position?

There are several reasons I'm looking at SVS. This includes my previous experience with their subs (I have three of them at home!) as well as their generous return policy. I know that I can always return the speaker if it does not work for me.

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For rear speakers that are close to your seating position I'd look into bipole or tripole. Generally they're quite slim and tall so fitting on stands would be tricky, probably want to use a bit of blu tack to really hold them onto the stand.

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Thanks for your advice my friend. My speaker stands have a fairly wide base and will not tip over, so I think that I will give the Ultra Surrounds a try and see what they sound like in the various modes that they can be used in (including bipole). I hope I'll get a discount as a repeat SVS customer, and the 45 day in-home trial will help me make a decision on whether to keep them or not.

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For rear speakers that are close to your seating position I'd look into bipole or tripole. Generally they're quite slim and tall so fitting on stands would be tricky, probably want to use a bit of blu tack to really hold them onto the stand.
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So I'm curious how most people are running their SVS-PB-12 Ultra subs. What mode and how many ports are you sealing?

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I have had the PB12NSD for a few weeks now, and I have to say wow. I love the flat, deep, tight sound. It does make my towers sound better. I'm guessing because there is not muddy bass drowning out the higher frequency sounds from the towers and center. I was watching a movie with my wife where there was a sudden explosion. It scared us to death! The bass was deep and strong, but not over done. Gravity must have some deep bass that you can feel and not hear, because some of those scenes I was feeling pulsing on my chest. That is exactly the tactile feel I was hoping for. Well done SVS! Time to watch all the movies in my collection all over again.
Nice. How many cubic ft is the room it is in? I have two PB12NSD's, love them
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I been thinking alot about what my choice's are in buying a svs subwoofer.And while i wish i can get dual pb-13 ultra's.I just dont know if i should do that i mean yes it would be bad ass.But my mind is at just getting the first ultra then thinking about getting a second ultra after.The money i am not really worryed about main reason i been saveing up for a ultra so yeah why worry about soemthing that you know you will get just have to take time in these kind's of things.One thing is my room in not really big it's about 9 x11 so yeah i feel haveign one ultra would be for the most part REALLY FINE.The main reason i wanted dual ultra's was because i wanted even bass.You dont get that much even bass when haveing one sub.Maybe you can but it's not that easy for my room size.
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I been thinking alot about what my choice's are in buying a svs subwoofer.And while i wish i can get dual pb-13 ultra's.I just dont know if i should do that i mean yes it would be bad ass.But my mind is at just getting the first ultra then thinking about getting a second ultra after.The money i am not really worryed about main reason i been saveing up for a ultra so yeah why worry about soemthing that you know you will get just have to take time in these kind's of things.One thing is my room in not really big it's about 9 x11 so yeah i feel haveign one ultra would be for the most part REALLY FINE.The main reason i wanted dual ultra's was because i wanted even bass.You dont get that much even bass when haveing one sub.Maybe you can but it's not that easy for my room size.
Dual Ultras is the best you can get from SVS so why not. No reason to buy 2 together. Just get one enjoy for little wild and add second later on. I planned to do same but I got excellent deal on dual Pluses since my 2 shipping damage delivery so it is why I kept 2 subs in same time. Otherwise I will buy just one and add second later on who knows.

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I been thinking alot about what my choice's are in buying a svs subwoofer.And while i wish i can get dual pb-13 ultra's.I just dont know if i should do that i mean yes it would be bad ass.But my mind is at just getting the first ultra then thinking about getting a second ultra after.The money i am not really worryed about main reason i been saveing up for a ultra so yeah why worry about soemthing that you know you will get just have to take time in these kind's of things.One thing is my room in not really big it's about 9 x11 so yeah i feel haveign one ultra would be for the most part REALLY FINE.The main reason i wanted dual ultra's was because i wanted even bass.You dont get that much even bass when haveing one sub.Maybe you can but it's not that easy for my room size.
Odds are you won't have to worry about uneven bass with a PB13 in a 9 x11 room.
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Nice. How many cubic ft is the room it is in? I have two PB12NSD's, love them
I never measured my room, but it is pretty small. My wife yells at me when I get a movie going because it shakes the floor.
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Odds are you won't have to worry about uneven bass with a PB13 in a 9 x11 room.
This is so true ,i will still have a really good sound stage in my room.The svs pb-13 ultra is crazy loud from what i read and from what other's who have on told me.Infact most of every i talked to that have a unltra has a small room like me so yeah.The only way to find out is to get the beast in my room lmao.
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This is so true ,i will still have a really good sound stage in my room.The svs pb-13 ultra is crazy loud from what i read and from what other's who have on told me.Infact most of every i talked to that have a unltra has a small room like me so yeah.The only way to find out is to get the beast in my room lmao.
Save yourself 400.00 and get the SB13 Ultra. It would be a much better fit in that small of a room IMO. You would be fine with a PB12 Plus as well but that sub takes up a lot of real estate like its big brother.

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Save yourself 400.00 and get the SB13 Ultra. It would be a much better fit in that small of a room IMO. You would be fine with a PB12 Plus as well but that sub takes up a lot of real estate like its big brother.
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This is so true ,i will still have a really good sound stage in my room.The svs pb-13 ultra is crazy loud from what i read and from what other's who have on told me.Infact most of every i talked to that have a unltra has a small room like me so yeah.The only way to find out is to get the beast in my room lmao.
In a small room get the SB Ultra 13. I never got on with PC Ultra 13 for music, so sold it got SB Ultra 13. More suited to my room and sounds better.

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I been thinking alot about what my choice's are in buying a svs subwoofer.And while i wish i can get dual pb-13 ultra's.I just dont know if i should do that i mean yes it would be bad ass.But my mind is at just getting the first ultra then thinking about getting a second ultra after.The money i am not really worryed about main reason i been saveing up for a ultra so yeah why worry about soemthing that you know you will get just have to take time in these kind's of things.One thing is my room in not really big it's about 9 x11 so yeah i feel haveign one ultra would be for the most part REALLY FINE.The main reason i wanted dual ultra's was because i wanted even bass.You dont get that much even bass when haveing one sub.Maybe you can but it's not that easy for my room size.
I'm making plans to turn a spare bedroom into a dedicated theater and would be running my PC12+ in there. Room is a little bit bigger (11 x 12) but really is in the same ballpark. Considering how powerful my sub is in the much larger living room I'm not at all worried about headroom in such a small room. You've got the ultra to boot, so i really don't think you'll have an issue. An Ultra is going to rock that room. As for even bass, there is an argument to be made there, but I still tend to think you'll likely be okay.

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