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joseph10704's Avatar joseph10704 04:31 PM 08-01-2014
I need anyone help .Ok as you all know well some of you.I own Klipsch RF-7 II setup hooed up with a center RC-64 II And for the surround's they are RS-62 II .Now before i added the surround a few days ago.I had a good amount of bass with just haveing the 3.0 setup .The RF-7 II were giveing me a big amount of bass.But right now i feel adding the surround's gave me just more surround sound's now and less bass.I thought i could get the bass back with looking in the setting's of my marantz receiver but i find the bass i had before is a little gone.My question really is if adding the surround's can i lose some bass i had before with adding the surround's.Mind you i do not onw a svs sub just yet and i plan i getting a pb13-ultra for usre now.But yeah can someone please give me some help.

cchunter's Avatar cchunter 12:04 AM 08-02-2014
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"Proper" as in the ONLY correct suggested way. It would suggest that any other way would be "improper".
Either way doesn't matter as long as you stay at 0 or in the negative after audyssey calibration. If your in the plus after calibration then turn sub gain up! Easy peezy!
Bond 007's Avatar Bond 007 06:34 AM 08-02-2014
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Either way doesn't matter as long as you stay at 0 or in the negative after audyssey calibration. If your in the plus after calibration then turn sub gain up! Easy peezy!
Pretty much. But not everyone has Audyssey. And if youre in the plus after calibration you should really turn up the sub and rerun the room correction software. That will accomplish what you stated in the first sentence.
Tom Riddle's Avatar Tom Riddle 05:00 PM 08-02-2014
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I need anyone help .Ok as you all know well some of you.I own Klipsch RF-7 II setup hooed up with a center RC-64 II And for the surround's they are RS-62 II .Now before i added the surround a few days ago.I had a good amount of bass with just haveing the 3.0 setup .The RF-7 II were giveing me a big amount of bass.But right now i feel adding the surround's gave me just more surround sound's now and less bass.I thought i could get the bass back with looking in the setting's of my marantz receiver but i find the bass i had before is a little gone.My question really is if adding the surround's can i lose some bass i had before with adding the surround's.Mind you i do not onw a svs sub just yet and i plan i getting a pb13-ultra for usre now.But yeah can someone please give me some help.
Where do you have your crossovers set?
joseph10704's Avatar joseph10704 06:08 PM 08-02-2014
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Where do you have your crossovers set?
I think m center speaker and surround are set to 60htz .Should i change them to a different setting.I dont have a bass so yeah maybe that's why.
Teremei's Avatar Teremei 06:07 AM 08-03-2014
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I think m center speaker and surround are set to 60htz .Should i change them to a different setting.I dont have a bass so yeah maybe that's why.
You are probably losing some mid bass because you are telling the speaker to only do sound above 60. If you can set them to large and full range that's what you want to do without a sub. I hope I remember that correctly.
trog69's Avatar trog69 07:30 AM 08-03-2014
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Yeah I had this same feeling when I got my PS12-NSD. I'm sure a lot went into it. Having good room correction software, towers and center, and sub can really make audio shine. I've been told this, having a good sub and the crossovers set correctly, it allows the sub to handle the hard stuff. It actually made my mid-bass punchier. Maybe that's because the towers can focus more on that. It's pretty amazing though.
I found the exact same thing with the SB12-NSD that I demo'ed for about two weeks. Everything about the bookshelf's was so much clearer, tighter, and and I even suspect that the sound stage improved as well.

PB-1000 on the way to my house now. Should arrive either Mon. or Tues. I should just wait until I've saved the extra $300 for the PB-2000, but after listening to the SB12, I just hear too much of the bad and none of the good from this PSW505. The Polky isn't bad, especially for the $150 new I paid for it, but no way I can go for two or three months waiting after the incredible sound from that tiny SVS phenom. I'm betting I'll be pretty happy with the PB-1000, as it will give me what I really crave, the impact of kick-drums and other lower mid-bass freq.
joseph10704's Avatar joseph10704 09:59 PM 08-04-2014
Does anyone know any other company's that use sledge amps for there subwoofer's.I was told by a few people over the phone that the only company who use sledge amps are company's that sell expensive subwoofer.That being said i feel this is why svs sell's so many sub's at such of a good price because of the what the put inside there sub's.can someone explain more.I would like to know.
retro124's Avatar retro124 10:17 PM 08-04-2014
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Does anyone know any other company's that use sledge amps for there subwoofer's.I was told by a few people over the phone that the only company who use sledge amps are company's that sell expensive subwoofer.That being said i feel this is why svs sell's so many sub's at such of a good price because of the what the put inside there sub's.can someone explain more.I would like to know.
Just visit some other subs web sites and read about amps. Many companies sell still Bash amp, witch is older SVS amp. Many people love Sledge amp and I'm one of them. It is digital displey set up, XLR connection, stronger amp at least in SVS models, better technology, maybe? My two 8 years old Klipsch subs had Bash amp so I'm just guessing Bash amp is getting out of market slowly and Sledge amp is next generation but maybe I'm wrong. I really don't care that much about it, SVS is just perfect for what I need and if Sledge amp helps good for them and us!!!
dprice18af's Avatar dprice18af 10:42 PM 08-04-2014
I have had the PB12NSD for a few weeks now, and I have to say wow. I love the flat, deep, tight sound. It does make my towers sound better. I'm guessing because there is not muddy bass drowning out the higher frequency sounds from the towers and center. I was watching a movie with my wife where there was a sudden explosion. It scared us to death! The bass was deep and strong, but not over done. Gravity must have some deep bass that you can feel and not hear, because some of those scenes I was feeling pulsing on my chest. That is exactly the tactile feel I was hoping for. Well done SVS! Time to watch all the movies in my collection all over again.
Cal68's Avatar Cal68 04:43 AM 08-05-2014
Hi All

I need to get a pair of rear surround speakers to go with my B&W 803 Nautilus S2 LCR. They need to be speakers that I can place on stands since my living room does not allow me to install any speakers on walls. In addition, the rears would be very close to my seating position, perhaps 3 feet from the main listening position. If I went with matching B&W speakers, it would have to be the 805 D2 which is a lot of money. So I'm thinking of trying the SVS ultra surround to see if it would work in my home theater. Any thoughts on how this combination would work? Also, any advice on whether to go with the bipole/dipole set-up in my situation where the speaker will be close to my listening position?

There are several reasons I'm looking at SVS. This includes my previous experience with their subs (I have three of them at home!) as well as their generous return policy. I know that I can always return the speaker if it does not work for me.

Thanks for your advice.
fatbottom's Avatar fatbottom 06:24 AM 08-05-2014
For rear speakers that are close to your seating position I'd look into bipole or tripole. Generally they're quite slim and tall so fitting on stands would be tricky, probably want to use a bit of blu tack to really hold them onto the stand.
Cal68's Avatar Cal68 04:39 AM 08-06-2014
Thanks for your advice my friend. My speaker stands have a fairly wide base and will not tip over, so I think that I will give the Ultra Surrounds a try and see what they sound like in the various modes that they can be used in (including bipole). I hope I'll get a discount as a repeat SVS customer, and the 45 day in-home trial will help me make a decision on whether to keep them or not.
Bond 007's Avatar Bond 007 05:23 AM 08-06-2014
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For rear speakers that are close to your seating position I'd look into bipole or tripole. Generally they're quite slim and tall so fitting on stands would be tricky, probably want to use a bit of blu tack to really hold them onto the stand.
+1 BluTack works great.
JewDaddy's Avatar JewDaddy 08:30 AM 08-06-2014
So I'm curious how most people are running their SVS-PB-12 Ultra subs. What mode and how many ports are you sealing?
Rgdeuce's Avatar Rgdeuce 08:41 AM 08-06-2014
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I have had the PB12NSD for a few weeks now, and I have to say wow. I love the flat, deep, tight sound. It does make my towers sound better. I'm guessing because there is not muddy bass drowning out the higher frequency sounds from the towers and center. I was watching a movie with my wife where there was a sudden explosion. It scared us to death! The bass was deep and strong, but not over done. Gravity must have some deep bass that you can feel and not hear, because some of those scenes I was feeling pulsing on my chest. That is exactly the tactile feel I was hoping for. Well done SVS! Time to watch all the movies in my collection all over again.
Nice. How many cubic ft is the room it is in? I have two PB12NSD's, love them
joseph10704's Avatar joseph10704 06:46 PM 08-06-2014
I been thinking alot about what my choice's are in buying a svs subwoofer.And while i wish i can get dual pb-13 ultra's.I just dont know if i should do that i mean yes it would be bad ass.But my mind is at just getting the first ultra then thinking about getting a second ultra after.The money i am not really worryed about main reason i been saveing up for a ultra so yeah why worry about soemthing that you know you will get just have to take time in these kind's of things.One thing is my room in not really big it's about 9 x11 so yeah i feel haveign one ultra would be for the most part REALLY FINE.The main reason i wanted dual ultra's was because i wanted even bass.You dont get that much even bass when haveing one sub.Maybe you can but it's not that easy for my room size.
retro124's Avatar retro124 07:14 PM 08-06-2014
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I been thinking alot about what my choice's are in buying a svs subwoofer.And while i wish i can get dual pb-13 ultra's.I just dont know if i should do that i mean yes it would be bad ass.But my mind is at just getting the first ultra then thinking about getting a second ultra after.The money i am not really worryed about main reason i been saveing up for a ultra so yeah why worry about soemthing that you know you will get just have to take time in these kind's of things.One thing is my room in not really big it's about 9 x11 so yeah i feel haveign one ultra would be for the most part REALLY FINE.The main reason i wanted dual ultra's was because i wanted even bass.You dont get that much even bass when haveing one sub.Maybe you can but it's not that easy for my room size.
Dual Ultras is the best you can get from SVS so why not. No reason to buy 2 together. Just get one enjoy for little wild and add second later on. I planned to do same but I got excellent deal on dual Pluses since my 2 shipping damage delivery so it is why I kept 2 subs in same time. Otherwise I will buy just one and add second later on who knows.
cchunter's Avatar cchunter 07:23 PM 08-06-2014
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I been thinking alot about what my choice's are in buying a svs subwoofer.And while i wish i can get dual pb-13 ultra's.I just dont know if i should do that i mean yes it would be bad ass.But my mind is at just getting the first ultra then thinking about getting a second ultra after.The money i am not really worryed about main reason i been saveing up for a ultra so yeah why worry about soemthing that you know you will get just have to take time in these kind's of things.One thing is my room in not really big it's about 9 x11 so yeah i feel haveign one ultra would be for the most part REALLY FINE.The main reason i wanted dual ultra's was because i wanted even bass.You dont get that much even bass when haveing one sub.Maybe you can but it's not that easy for my room size.
Odds are you won't have to worry about uneven bass with a PB13 in a 9 x11 room.
dprice18af's Avatar dprice18af 08:11 PM 08-06-2014
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Nice. How many cubic ft is the room it is in? I have two PB12NSD's, love them
I never measured my room, but it is pretty small. My wife yells at me when I get a movie going because it shakes the floor.
jwtallguy's Avatar jwtallguy 11:13 PM 08-06-2014
Any REW room sweeps with their pc12+s out there?
joseph10704's Avatar joseph10704 09:36 AM 08-07-2014
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Odds are you won't have to worry about uneven bass with a PB13 in a 9 x11 room.
This is so true ,i will still have a really good sound stage in my room.The svs pb-13 ultra is crazy loud from what i read and from what other's who have on told me.Infact most of every i talked to that have a unltra has a small room like me so yeah.The only way to find out is to get the beast in my room lmao.
cchunter's Avatar cchunter 10:16 AM 08-07-2014
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This is so true ,i will still have a really good sound stage in my room.The svs pb-13 ultra is crazy loud from what i read and from what other's who have on told me.Infact most of every i talked to that have a unltra has a small room like me so yeah.The only way to find out is to get the beast in my room lmao.
Save yourself 400.00 and get the SB13 Ultra. It would be a much better fit in that small of a room IMO. You would be fine with a PB12 Plus as well but that sub takes up a lot of real estate like its big brother.
Mongo171's Avatar Mongo171 10:39 AM 08-07-2014
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Save yourself 400.00 and get the SB13 Ultra. It would be a much better fit in that small of a room IMO. You would be fine with a PB12 Plus as well but that sub takes up a lot of real estate like its big brother.
Don't forget about the water heaters. Small footprint.
fatbottom's Avatar fatbottom 01:52 PM 08-07-2014
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This is so true ,i will still have a really good sound stage in my room.The svs pb-13 ultra is crazy loud from what i read and from what other's who have on told me.Infact most of every i talked to that have a unltra has a small room like me so yeah.The only way to find out is to get the beast in my room lmao.
In a small room get the SB Ultra 13. I never got on with PC Ultra 13 for music, so sold it got SB Ultra 13. More suited to my room and sounds better.
AllenA07's Avatar AllenA07 02:25 PM 08-07-2014
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I been thinking alot about what my choice's are in buying a svs subwoofer.And while i wish i can get dual pb-13 ultra's.I just dont know if i should do that i mean yes it would be bad ass.But my mind is at just getting the first ultra then thinking about getting a second ultra after.The money i am not really worryed about main reason i been saveing up for a ultra so yeah why worry about soemthing that you know you will get just have to take time in these kind's of things.One thing is my room in not really big it's about 9 x11 so yeah i feel haveign one ultra would be for the most part REALLY FINE.The main reason i wanted dual ultra's was because i wanted even bass.You dont get that much even bass when haveing one sub.Maybe you can but it's not that easy for my room size.
I'm making plans to turn a spare bedroom into a dedicated theater and would be running my PC12+ in there. Room is a little bit bigger (11 x 12) but really is in the same ballpark. Considering how powerful my sub is in the much larger living room I'm not at all worried about headroom in such a small room. You've got the ultra to boot, so i really don't think you'll have an issue. An Ultra is going to rock that room. As for even bass, there is an argument to be made there, but I still tend to think you'll likely be okay.
roland6465's Avatar roland6465 03:17 PM 08-07-2014
My current Facebook status is- Finally got around to watching Gravity 3D in the theater room. Your sub wishes it was an SVS.

Had the SB2000 for about 90 days now, probably only 30 hours of material, and it just keeps getting better.
joseph10704's Avatar joseph10704 03:19 PM 08-07-2014
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I'm making plans to turn a spare bedroom into a dedicated theater and would be running my PC12+ in there. Room is a little bit bigger (11 x 12) but really is in the same ballpark. Considering how powerful my sub is in the much larger living room I'm not at all worried about headroom in such a small room. You've got the ultra to boot, so i really don't think you'll have an issue. An Ultra is going to rock that room. As for even bass, there is an argument to be made there, but I still tend to think you'll likely be okay.
Yeah i mean even if my room is too small.I feel there is never too much bass.I watch so many movie's as it is that bass would be even better hooked up to my RF-7 II.A ultra is what i really want the pb-13 ultra has been on my list for year's.Just been trying to pay bill's and trying to get back in to edacation is something that's has to be done.It's not easy i just got a 2,500 crdit card from discover today in the mail.And while i feel like buying a pb-13 ultra right now lmao I WOULD BE A FOOL TO DO SOMETHING SO CRAZY LIKE THAT.When i have to pay bill's with the credit card not want's.But that's ok i will keep saveing my money i been puting away.I got 1,600 buck's put aside for the pb-13 ultra.Just a few more week's or month's and we are gold.

retro124's Avatar retro124 05:58 PM 08-07-2014
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Yeah i mean even if my room is too small.I feel there is never too much bass.I watch so many movie's as it is that bass would be even better hooked up to my RF-7 II.A ultra is what i really want the pb-13 ultra has been on my list for year's.Just been trying to pay bill's and trying to get back in to edacation is something that's has to be done.It's not easy i just got a 2,500 crdit card from discover today in the mail.And while i feel like buying a pb-13 ultra right now lmao I WOULD BE A FOOL TO DO SOMETHING SO CRAZY LIKE THAT.When i have to pay bill's with the credit card not want's.But that's ok i will keep saveing my money i been puting away.I got 1,600 buck's put aside for the pb-13 ultra.Just a few more week's or month's and we are gold.
If your goal is PB13-Ultra go for it. If you compromise and get something else you will never stop thinking what if.
Check outlet section also there is often PB13-Ultras with small or no demage and it is $200 less so why not!!!
It is crazy to buy it from credit card because if cant pay it off in 30 days you will end up with Ultra for $2800 on the end or even more, better save little more and pay for it from your saving.
If you want compare 2 subs in one time buy PB ultra from saving and buy from credit card SB ultra like cchunter love and recomended and
You van compare them and decide if you not 100% sure it will cost you nothing and it is nice to compare or try dual set up !!!
joseph10704's Avatar joseph10704 08:50 PM 08-07-2014
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If your goal is PB13-Ultra go for it. If you compromise and get something else you will never stop thinking what if.
Check outlet section also there is often PB13-Ultras with small or no demage and it is $200 less so why not!!!
It is crazy to buy it from credit card because if cant pay it off in 30 days you will end up with Ultra for $2800 on the end or even more, better save little more and pay for it from your saving.
If you want compare 2 subs in one time buy PB ultra from saving and buy from credit card SB ultra like cchunter love and recomended and
You van compare them and decide if you not 100% sure it will cost you nothing and it is nice to compare or try dual set up !!!
Yeah i was going to order from svs .But they chager new york state tax i live in new york state so yeah i am going to order from onecall.As for buying the sub with a card.I am just going tosave my money still and buy the first pb-13 ultra and then down the road we will see about a second ultra.The idea was to put all my home theater gear in the livieng room.But i got a family member liveing in there for right now.So yeah at this point all i can do is save and wait.
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