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post #17641 of 18398 Old 08-17-2014, 03:57 PM
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I will call SVS and Onecall tomorrow, both closed right now. There are no PB-2000 subs in their outlet right now. When they do have one, with no damage, they are $750. With the 10% off it's $719 for a brand new one.

I do notice on the product page on onecall.com, it does state that there is a 45 day trial period, with return shipping paid. That seems to conflict with what you are telling me. http://www.onecall.com/svs-pb-2000-1...ered-subwoofer
I'm not 100% sure but i will be surprise if they will pay shipping back, just make sure before you buy it. I find out sometimes Onecall just copy terms of others companies end then just not follow it like this one:

Read about warranty they just copy Klipsch warranty info but if you call them they will tell you there is no warranty on this speakers because it is open box, other Klipsch dealers cover warranty even on open boxes.I chat with Onecall about those and they told me no warranty.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-RB81...item233ea8a499

So just make better to be sure then sorry. PB-2000 is for sure nice sub but there is big possibility you will swap it in 45 days or trade in in 1 year and it is other thing what Onecall will not cover.

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Thanks for that info. That's very misleading if they post warranty or return terms and don't go by them. I've never bought anything from onecall.com, so I have no clue how they operate.
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Thanks for that info. That's very misleading if they post warranty or return terms and don't go by them. I've never bought anything from onecall.com, so I have no clue how they operate.
OneCall has wonderful customer service in all of my experiences with them. I have spent over $3000 buying from them and they have treated me excellent. I have even bargained with them over the phone and they will match price with other authorized dealers in the country including Ebay. I can't say enough good things about OneCall. This has been my experience anyways.
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I see that OneCall is an authorized SVS retailer. Question I have is if I buy a sub from them, does it come with the 45 day return window? If there is a problem with the sub down the road, does the 5 year warranty go through onecall, or SVS? Reason for these questions is I received a 10% off code for use on ebay and Onecall sells SVS subs on eBay.
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Thanks for that info. That's very misleading if they post warranty or return terms and don't go by them. I've never bought anything from onecall.com, so I have no clue how they operate.
Got my SB12 forteen months ago from OneCall, via Amazon.

Ended up with the annoying "mis-aligned grill-peg hole" issue... but was reluctant to ask for an exchange over what seemed to me to be such a relatively "petty" issue.

Finally, this past March -- after many communications with Ed at SVS, regarding "what other alternative 'fixes' can I try" -- he convinced me to let SVS replace it. They handled the entire exchange, including setting up free shipping for the replacement, and free pickup and return shipping for my "defective" SB12 -- which I didn't have to send back until after the replacement had arrived -- and I ended up with a brand-new Piano-gloss SB12.

All of this was covered by SVS, under my original 5-year warranty. I never contacted OneCall about it at all... even though they have a stellar customer service reputation. My experience purchasing it from them was flawless, though... and they even double-boxed the original SB12 when they shipped it to me.

By the way... almost everyone on here talks about "needing" dual 13-Ultras, and the like... but I think they're pretty much all "bass-heads". Personally, I'm a Jazz and Classical guy, with a little Floyd and Zeppelin thrown in once in a while when I'm cleaning my house. Frankly, I never go above -10 on my 140wpc AVR, and in my 2,120 cubic-foot living room, this "little" SB12 blows me away. And during films like Oblivion or War of the Worlds or How to Train Your Dragon, it rattles pictures in my bedroom. It's far more sub than I'll ever need... so any SVS sub is gonna make you happy!

I just now saw your link to OneCall. Amazing that they now offer the same "45-day return, free shipping both ways" policy that SVS offers.

I got the same 10%-off eBay e-mail today, by the way. If I were you... I'd get that PB-2000 from OneCall now!
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Thanks for that info. That's very misleading if they post warranty or return terms and don't go by them. I've never bought anything from onecall.com, so I have no clue how they operate.
I just know they do this warranty bad trick with Klipsch open boxes speaker and OneCall repre told me they put on Ebay manufactured info even if they are not correct, maybe I just had a bad person on phone but warranty is really not covered on open boxes Klipsch speakers from OneCall but they are covered from any other authorized Klipsch dealers, I'm sure OneCall do well with other staff. Maybe that OneCall SVS connection works great I just don't know. I bought mine 2 subs from SVS and I'm very happy about all around SVS. Some folks here use OneCall and they are also pleased so find out more about 45 days free shipping both ways and 1 year trade up and make your decition. Let us know what Onecall told you tomorrow, thanks and good luck.

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I just know they do this warranty bad trick with Klipsch open boxes speaker and OneCall repre told me they put on Ebay manufactured info even if they are not correct, maybe I just had a bad person on phone but warranty is really not covered on open boxes Klipsch speakers from OneCall but they are covered from any other authorized Klipsch dealers, I'm sure OneCall do well with other staff. Maybe that OneCall SVS connection works great I just don't know. I bought mine 2 subs from SVS and I'm very happy about all around SVS. Some folks here use OneCall and they are also pleased so find out more about 45 days free shipping both ways and 1 year trade up and make your decition. Let us know what Onecall told you tomorrow, thanks and good luck.
My RC64II has 5 year warranty on it. Open Box from OneCall.

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My RC64II has 5 year warranty on it. Open Box from OneCall.
Well I try to get from them RB-81II and they said no warranty on open boxes from klipsch. Maybe it was their mistake and maybe it is covered but I'm just saying what I experiance I had with them. I really dont know, how do you know you have a warranty on it? Maybe your was never registered from previous owned and maybe RB-81II are I'm just guessing.

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Many times we talked about OneCall how they do and if they cover warranty or not, so I contacted them last night and here is results:

Klipsch open boxes speakers and SVS subwoofers. Results are NO warranty on Klipsch open boxes speakers and there is 45 days free return shipping on SVS subs but there is NO 1 year trade up offer!!!!

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So thats it...i have decided to pull a trigger...tomorrow i am ordering a sb13ultra ...one of my sb12 is going to my brother and the other will be for a sb13 to keep him a company i hope this will be my last purchase of sub for years to come. I have contacted the svs and they said the ultra is pretty big upgrade from 2xsb12 so i will have to believe them I will probably get it in the begining of the the next week...will post my impressions as soon as it will be on the spot...next week just cant come soon enough
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So thats it...i have decided to pull a trigger...tomorrow i am ordering a sb13ultra
Well I would say Congrat's on the new sub, but you have not ordered it yet! All kidding aside Congrat's and I hope it is all you want for a few years.

I have about 6 months left to decide if I'd like to upgrade or get another for duals. The upgrade bug seems to travel around the world.
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Well I would say Congrat's on the new sub, but you have not ordered it yet! All kidding aside Congrat's and I hope it is all you want for a few years.

I have about 6 months left to decide if I'd like to upgrade or get another for duals. The upgrade bug seems to travel around the world.
What sub are you having? I really hope it will meet my expectations as is not cheap...but the upgrade bug has bitten me
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What sub are you having? I really hope it will meet my expectations as is not cheap...but the upgrade bug has bitten me
I have the SVS PB-2000. Yes this can become expensive chasing that sound that puts a smile on your face. I was going to spend less then I did with the thought anything was better then the passive 8" sub I had already. I learned if I spent a little more there would be a better set of subs to choose from also ID subs give better output per money spent. I'm a big movie fan so I'm glad I spent more as it sounds and feels good to me.


I'm trying to avoid the upgrade bug, but until the year is up those little voices in my head will keep saying dual PB's or one SB13 ultra with the smaller footprint would be Sweat!!
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I was wondering if I can get some advice on a PB13 ULTRA that just came in a few days ago. Gear- UMC 200, XPA-3, REVEL F208, REVEL C206. I got it hooked up and ran the EMO-Q. It set my crossovers to large and set the sub crossover to 200. It sounded ok. I called SVS to get the correct setting- front l/r 50hz, center to 8hz and the ULTRA TO 120. I feel like I'm missing something. It's like sub is barely working. My wife asked me why I paid that much for so little effect. I'm wondering if my speakers are powerful enough to where the Sub doesn't have to do anything? Or maybe change something or turn the sub up from the back? Any ideas?
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I was wondering if I can get some advice on a PB13 ULTRA that just came in a few days ago. Gear- UMC 200, XPA-3, REVEL F208, REVEL C206. I got it hooked up and ran the EMO-Q. It set my crossovers to large and set the sub crossover to 200. It sounded ok. I called SVS to get the correct setting- front l/r 50hz, center to 8hz and the ULTRA TO 120. I feel like I'm missing something. It's like sub is barely working. My wife asked me why I paid that much for so little effect. I'm wondering if my speakers are powerful enough to where the Sub doesn't have to do anything? Or maybe change something or turn the sub up from the back? Any ideas?
That sub should be knocking pictures of the walls. It's a setting issue. Front L/R 50Hz is good, Center at 80Hz is good, sub at 120Hz??? Try speakers to small and sub at 80Hz.

With dual subs, stack'em in the corner and put on a jockstrap. Don't want EVERYTHING in the room jingling!
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I will give it a shot. Thank you as I only have a few weeks to make a decision. Does setting it at 80hz mean that it'll pick up more and make a noticeable difference? Also the setting I the back of the sub. Do I keep that at -7?
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I will give it a shot. Thank you as I only have a few weeks to make a decision. Does setting it at 80hz mean that it'll pick up more and make a noticeable difference? Also the setting I the back of the sub. Do I keep that at -7?
Setting the speakers and sub at 80Hz is the THX standard and a good starting point when running a room correction. You want the sub to be non-localized, meaning you can't audibly locate it. Your sub was built to handle the lower frequencies, your speakers not so much. Then try running EMO-Q again and see what it tells you.

With dual subs, stack'em in the corner and put on a jockstrap. Don't want EVERYTHING in the room jingling!
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Well I would say Congrat's on the new sub, but you have not ordered it yet! All kidding aside Congrat's and I hope it is all you want for a few years.

I have about 6 months left to decide if I'd like to upgrade or get another for duals. The upgrade bug seems to travel around the world.
Well...it is official now...sb13ultra payed oh man i am so waiting for this sub/beast
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Life, as you know it, will be changed forever!
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Well...it is official now...sb13ultra payed oh man i am so waiting for this sub/beast
Well then an official Congrats is in order now.

Once the wait is over and it's set up would like to hear your take on how it all sounds. Although I know it may be hard to pull yourself away!
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Congrats, you will love your new sub, no question about it!!!
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cchunter Good job with picture, your living room getting more popular, I received today SVS email and Guess who's living room is in the middle of the pictures
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Hi guys. I haven't posted here for months because, it turns out, I have way much time for that when I'm at work than when I'm at home taking care of a baby. Now my parental leave is over so I may have time to follow this thread again

So... what's up since last spring? I see SVS now sells the SB-2000 in piano black finish -- that's awesome. Did I miss anything else?
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Hi guys. I haven't posted here for months because, it turns out, I have way much time for that when I'm at work than when I'm at home taking care of a baby. Now my parental leave is over so I may have time to follow this thread again

So... what's up since last spring? I see SVS now sells the SB-2000 in piano black finish -- that's awesome. Did I miss anything else?
SVS is buying TC Sounds. Should have a new Ultra line out with dual opposed sealed 15" and 2.4kw Ice/Sledge amp and iPhone app for tuning DSP. Also a ported 18" but don't know which amp yet. Expect more after Cedia.



Nah, just joshing ya. The new finish on the SB2000 is it. Hopefully we will see another new product Q1 2015 if they continue the trend from the last two years. The Ultra and Plus lines are getting long in the tooth.

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SVS is buying TC Sounds. Should have a new Ultra line out with dual opposed sealed 15" and 2.4kw Ice/Sledge amp and iPhone app for tuning DSP. Also a ported 18" but don't know which amp yet. Expect more after Cedia.
Great wishlist here Snow but a dual-TC-equipped Ultra with a 2.4 kW amp would probably cost an arm and a leg

As for the Plus and Ultra lines getting long in the tooth... ...but but ... I barely used mine yet You're right though, they've been on the market as is (with the Sledge amps) since what, 2011? Late 2010? Yet before the line is upgraded I expect a reasonable price drop to clear inventory...

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So... what's up since last spring? I see SVS now sells the SB-2000 in piano black finish -- that's awesome. Did I miss anything else?
They sell these rubber feet now that decouple the sub from floor. Those are kinda new, right? Well they didn't have them when I got my SVS sub last summer. Thinking about getting them but mine seems to be ok on a thick rubber doormat. The feet look a lot nicer though and make it easier to get hands under to pick sub up.

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They sell these rubber feet now that decouple the sub from floor. Those are kinda new, right? Well they didn't have them when I got my SVS sub last summer. Thinking about getting them but mine seems to be ok on a thick rubber doormat. The feet look a lot nicer though and make it easier to get hands under to pick sub up.
Oh I only took 13 weeks off

I don't have any vibration problems with my cylinders but had some with my SB12, which was placed close to a metal vent intake. Also a friend had a PC12 literally buzz on the floor at high volume. In both cases, an acoustical rubber mat fixed the issue; those are meant to be placed under hardwood flooring for example. I'm pretty sure that SVS's rubber feet do an (at least) equally good job and are much prettier, but it's hard to beat the performance/price ratio of those rubber mats.

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Yaa I got that same email and was surprised to see my pic in the middle.

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Hi guys. I haven't posted here for months because, it turns out, I have way much time for that when I'm at work than when I'm at home taking care of a baby. Now my parental leave is over so I may have time to follow this thread again

So... what's up since last spring? I see SVS now sells the SB-2000 in piano black finish -- that's awesome. Did I miss anything else?
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I set the crossovers to 80hz on the pb13. Did the test where you shut it off and see what you're missing. My wife said there is no difference. So I played some kind of hip hop and it made itself very present. This kind of concerns me because it doesn't show up until I make it show up with extreme content. I'm wondering if something smaller and cheaper or maybe dual may be the way to go?
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I set the crossovers to 80hz on the pb13. Did the test where you shut it off and see what you're missing. My wife said there is no difference. So I played some kind of hip hop and it made itself very present. This kind of concerns me because it doesn't show up until I make it show up with extreme content. I'm wondering if something smaller and cheaper or maybe dual may be the way to go?
First of all can you tell us a little about your gear? AVR? Speakers? Room size? Where is the sub located in your setup? What kind of floors is the sub resting on such as hardwood, carpeted, cement floor like in a basement? How is the sub setup? Low and high pass filters off? What kind of room calibration are you using? Telling us more might help us figure out what might be wrong or maybe the sub is defective all together? That sub should be shaking things up quite nicely. Wait I just scrolled up and read your gear. My bad.

Denon 4520
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Sony BDP-S790, PS3
Panamax 5300PM
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