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I was told by a SVS rep via chat that the PB-2000 has 40% more output than the PC12-NSD. He didn't elaborate, like if that's from 30Hz and up. Of course the PB-2000 has more extension.
Perhaps a bit more extension but the tuning point of the PB-2000 is still 20 Hz. 40% more output means about +3 dB and from memory this is from about 25 Hz upward but I may be wrong on that one.

No news about 1000- or 2000-series cylinders yet, or whether the eventual 3000-series (replacing the Plus line) will come before or after.

Note that the Plus cylinder is the cheapest SVS sub that can be tuned to 16 Hz right now.

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Talk about deja vu all over again!

With dual subs, stack'em in the corner and put on a jockstrap. Don't want EVERYTHING in the room jingling!
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Perhaps a bit more extension but the tuning point of the PB-2000 is still 20 Hz. 40% more output means about +3 dB and from memory this is from about 25 Hz upward but I may be wrong on that one.

No news about 1000- or 2000-series cylinders yet, or whether the eventual 3000-series (replacing the Plus line) will come before or after.

Note that the Plus cylinder is the cheapest SVS sub that can be tuned to 16 Hz right now.

Note that the Plus cylinder is the cheapest SVS sub that can be tuned to 16 Hz right now.
and they are pretty amazing subs !!!

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What's with all the SVS PC subs with cracks in the port cap? Seems like most of the Outlet PC subs have cracks. I asked a SVS rep about this and he said it's due to shipping. That doesn't sound legit. Are they that fragile?
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What's with all the SVS PC subs with cracks in the port cap? Seems like most of the Outlet PC subs have cracks. I asked a SVS rep about this and he said it's due to shipping. That doesn't sound legit. Are they that fragile?
Not sure --- you're speaking about the metal grille on top? They sure aren't as sturdy as the heavy front gilles in the PB and SB models, but they don't really have to either. They're pretty similar to metal cookie boxes cover perhaps a bit sturdier. Perhaps a sharp hit on the top of a box could have dented or even cracked the grille but it seems to be that SVS could simply replace the grilles on those subs if they are damaged...

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Not sure --- you're speaking about the metal grille on top? They sure aren't as sturdy as the heavy front gilles in the PB and SB models, but they don't really have to either. They're pretty similar to metal cookie boxes cover perhaps a bit sturdier. Perhaps a sharp hit on the top of a box could have dented or even cracked the grille but it seems to be that SVS could simply replace the grilles on those subs if they are damaged...
The grille goes over the port cap. Not 100% sure, as I've never owned a PC sub, but I think the cap around the port/s is plastic. I've been looking at their outlet PC subs for a few months now and the majority of them have cracks.
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The grille goes over the port cap. Not 100% sure, as I've never owned a PC sub, but I think the cap around the port/s is plastic. I've been looking at their outlet PC subs for a few months now and the majority of them have cracks.
It is not a big crack on those it is only crack on paint on top of the port cap. No deeper cracks at all. It is nothing big hardly visible without grill off. Also if you buy cylinder sub new and arrive with this crack you will get additional $100 off wish is not bad or you can swap it for another one.

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It is not a big crack on those it is only crack on paint on top of the port cap. No deeper cracks at all. It is nothing big hardly visible without grill off. Also if you buy cylinder sub new and arrive with this crack you will get additional $100 off wish is not bad or you can swap it for another one.
Well some of the cracks look faint, like scratches almost, but some look like full cracks in the cap. retro124, do you have a SVS PC sub with cracks? So what causes the cracks? Seems like a design flaw if it's so prevalent. So buy a new PB12-NSD for $650 and if it arrives with port cap cracks SVS will refund $100? I'm just hesitant to buy a PC sub due to this and the cloth wrapping seeming to be so easy to scratch/snag.
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Well some of the cracks look faint, like scratches almost, but some look like full cracks in the cap. retro124, do you have a SVS PC sub with cracks? So what causes the cracks? Seems like a design flaw if it's so prevalent. So buy a new PB12-NSD for $650 and if it arrives with port cap cracks SVS will refund $100? I'm just hesitant to buy a PC sub due to this and the cloth wrapping seeming to be so easy to scratch/snag.
Yes you are right many are hair cracks and I talked to SVS and any peeling off paint is under warranty. Discount is only if you buy new one and have some of those. I had it on 1 Plus no problem at all any kind. I received $109 (10%) discout that is accurate. Cloth on sub is easy to keep up clean and no worries about scratches on cloth at all. Don't worry about it if you want cylinder get one, it will be ok no cracks around port andif yes SVS will replace it for you until you have one without or you can get 10% off. I really don't think it is a big deal it is like other SVS subs in outlet. I guess many of those cracks it is FedEx white glove delivery

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I guess many of those cracks it is FedEx white glove delivery
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