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I hope it isn't a new Plus driver as that would surely drive up the price. Right now the plus hits the sweet spot, especially the PC12-Plus for $1050 in outlet. Knowing that I can get two Pluses for the price of one PB13-Ultra has made it easier to make up my mind. If they increase the price of the Plus, it will make my decision much harder.
That is great AVR so don't worry I'm sure PC-pluses will be available for same price, I don't think SVS even if new driver will show up increase price. I'm guessing it will be same and older drivers will go on sale. If we are talking about new Plus but who knows what sup rice we will have on Oct 10th.

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For me if i owned a ultra right now.I would just keep what i have.If it work's for me.if the ultra does not make me happy.Then yes i would look for a bigger sub from svs if they have it.For me it come's down to a few thing's value,price,and formefactor.While yes i can fit a ultra in my house.and in my room even tho my room is only 9 x11.Still i feel if svs made a new ultra we wont be getting a new ultra in my house.I would have no choice but to rethink my thought's about what sub i will get then.And to be real.I feel svs might now be makeing a pb15 ultra any time soon.But hey we dont know that intill october 10th.
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i fall into the 45 day trial and the 1 year upgrade policy. (thanks svs) so if i want to, i can exchange. my last setup was diy duel 15's and i miss that super low end chest pound, and i cant physically fit another svs. so if they decide to come out with a 15, im getting it. i was actually thinking of making an 18 inch sub as an end table, i want more! lol
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i fall into the 45 day trial and the 1 year upgrade policy. (thanks svs) so if i want to, i can exchange. my last setup was diy duel 15's and i miss that super low end chest pound, and i cant physically fit another svs. so if they decide to come out with a 15, im getting it. i was actually thinking of making an 18 inch sub as an end table, i want more! lol
So why did you come from DIY sub 15" to SVS Ultra?

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So why did you come from DIY sub 15" to SVS Ultra?
life, since my last setup ive moved a few times, one sub blew, boxes thrown away. my old man retired and sold his house, so my workshop is gone. the ultra is a quality sub, but sometimes when a starship lands i wanna fell like im going to throw up lol.
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Guys, have a buzzing amp and im being send a new replacement amp. Heard the swap is simple. Will this have any effect on performance? Should I rerun audissey? Its the PC-12 Plus.

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SB will work better in that room.
yeah i was told that by a few.But for me i like a ported sub more.I ama big big movie watcher and music and gamer.So all in all no matter what sub i get it's going to be fantastic.
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Considering SVS sub is for sure great choice just pick up right one. Tell us more your room size, what you listen more music or movies and what speakers do you have?
This thread has all the specs I've worked out so far and what I'm considering.... I'm new to all this but trying hard to make the right choices weeding through all the clashing opinions
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Guys, have a buzzing amp and im being send a new replacement amp. Heard the swap is simple. Will this have any effect on performance? Should I rerun audissey? Its the PC-12 Plus.

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It may have a slight impact if the gain structure is different and/or you change the settings. While it wouldn't hurt to rerun Audyssey I don't think it is necessary as long as you set it up the same and do not hear a major difference. This is assuming you have a Sledge amp, if you have an older BASH amp with the analog controls I would rerun Audyssey as it will be very difficult to be exactly the same on the gain knob, etc.
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I've been demoing a PB-1000 to replace my 12" Velodyne that finally choked after 16 years. So far I'm rather under-whelmed. The sound is good as is the range but all the reviews gush over how great it is for movies. I think at the end of the day, a 10" sub is what it is and cannot exceed the laws of physics. It really struggles at the volumes I like to listen to for room shaking effects in comparison with the Velodyne so it is going back. Unfortunately, I'm on a rather tight budget so the only other one I could possibly afford is the PC-12 NSD and I hear it is not nearly as loud as the PB-2000. So... decision time. I'm even considering finding another plate amp for the Velodyne but after 16 years of daily use I'm guessing the drivers (12" active and 15" passive) are probably worn out too? The HSU VF2-Mk4 looks like a good compromise but their amps seem rather short-lived in comparison to SVS? Should I try to swing the PB-2000? Any advice appreciated.

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yeah i was told that by a few.But for me i like a ported sub more.I ama big big movie watcher and music and gamer.So all in all no matter what sub i get it's going to be fantastic.
I'm into movies and movies also, the change from PC to SB was a upgrade. Never liked the PC just seemed a bit one noted, lacking in upper bass. Had a antimode as well.

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I used to have first on then two PC12-NSDs and even one rock the walls when watching films. Got the two flat Down to 15hz too. Now I have two PB12-NSD DSPs and I struggle to calibrate them. Had to move one behind the Chairs to avoid holes and I get them to play OK only to 18hz. Will try to swap them for PC12-NSD DSPs.
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I'm into movies and movies also, the change from PC to SB was a upgrade. Never liked the PC just seemed a bit one noted, lacking in upper bass. Had a antimode as well.
yeah i seen the PC svs sub's on there website.But for me idk i was never a fan of the that kind of subwoofer.I feel the best sound's you get is from a ported sub and sealed sub.
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yeah i seen the PC svs sub's on there website.But for me idk i was never a fan of the that kind of subwoofer.I feel the best sound's you get is from a ported sub and sealed sub.
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Finally ordered a PB-2000 for the living room. Can't wait to get it. What volume do you guys recommend setting the sub at when running MCACC?

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Finally ordered a PB-2000 for the living room. Can't wait to get it. What volume do you guys recommend setting the sub at when running MCACC?
It shouldn't matter. If, after you run the test, the sub trim level is higher than -3 or so...run again with the volume turned up. If its less than -9...turn it down and rerun.
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It shouldn't matter. If, after you run the test, the sub trim level is higher than -3 or so...run again with the volume turned up. If its less than -9...turn it down and rerun.
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Finally ordered a PB-2000 for the living room. Can't wait to get it. What volume do you guys recommend setting the sub at when running MCACC?
FWIW I set mine at the SVS recommended 2 o'clock position and that worked out perfectly with my ear and subsequently with an iPhone SPL meter as well. As a solo sub Audyssey set the SW level at -3. Now with dual subs Audyssey set them at -9 and that sounds right to me too.

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I've had a PC12-NSD for nearly a year and am considering whether to take advantage of the upgrade possibilities before that year is very shortly out. I am in a 2200 sq ft room (viewing space in half of that) with two regular doors opening into other rooms.

I have not been unhappy with the PC12, but am curious about what the tighter bass from the SB2000 I've been reading about in glowing reviews might sound like. Later, I'd possibly be open to getting a second SB2000 if that improved the experience even more.

Any thoughts on the new model SB2000 (or another model) vs the PC12 and what might be better or worse about it?

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I've had a PC12-NSD for nearly a year and am considering whether to take advantage of the upgrade possibilities before that year is very shortly out. I am in a 2200 sq ft room (viewing space in half of that) with two regular doors opening into other rooms.

I have not been unhappy with the PC12, but am curious about what the tighter bass from the SB2000 I've been reading about in glowing reviews might sound like. Later, I'd possibly be open to getting a second SB2000 if that improved the experience even more.

Any thoughts on the new model SB2000 (or another model) vs the PC12 and what might be better or worse about it?

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If you like your sub to make its presence known in movies I think you'll be disappointed with that move. If you are going to upgrade at least go to the SB13 which then would keep more of the low output that you are use to on the PC12.
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I just got two PC12-NSDs and love them.
However, my theater room / living is open in all directions (through unclosable doorways) to the kitchen, dining room, and even upstairs hall.
The total estimated open space is about 6600+ cubic feet that the subs are attempting to pressurize.
I was thinking about using the SVS upgrade program and was wondering:
  1. Would an upgrade to two PC12-Pluses make a noticeable difference or would I have to go to the 13 Ultras? (please note I want to stay confined to cylinder style subs).
  2. Or should I not even attempt to pressurize 6600+ cubic feet of space as it would be futile?
I am pretty happy with what I got and I don't want to spend a bunch of money if it won't make too much difference in a space that large.


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I just got two PC12-NSDs and love them.
However, my theater room / living is open in all directions (through unclosable doorways) to the kitchen, dining room, and even upstairs hall.
The total estimated open space is about 6600+ cubic feet that the subs are attempting to pressurize.
I was thinking about using the SVS upgrade program and was wondering:
  1. Would an upgrade to two PC12-Pluses make a noticeable difference or would I have to go to the 13 Ultras? (please note I want to stay confined to cylinder style subs).
  2. Or should I not even attempt to pressurize 6600+ cubic feet of space as it would be futile?
I am pretty happy with what I got and I don't want to spend a bunch of money if it won't make too much difference in a space that large.
I think the Pluses are about 3-5 db better than the standard PC12...so yes that would be a significant improvement...mostly because you could take advantage of the lower tuning option.

The PC13 doesn't have quite the output of the PB13 and the PB13 I think is 3dB or so better than the PB-12plus so I would expect the difference between the PC12-plus and PC13 to be even smaller.

I think its a good idea to upgrade to the PC12-plus
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I've been demoing a PB-1000 to replace my 12" Velodyne that finally choked after 16 years. So far I'm rather under-whelmed. The sound is good as is the range but all the reviews gush over how great it is for movies. I think at the end of the day, a 10" sub is what it is and cannot exceed the laws of physics. It really struggles at the volumes I like to listen to for room shaking effects in comparison with the Velodyne so it is going back. Unfortunately, I'm on a rather tight budget so the only other one I could possibly afford is the PC-12 NSD and I hear it is not nearly as loud as the PB-2000. So... decision time. I'm even considering finding another plate amp for the Velodyne but after 16 years of daily use I'm guessing the drivers (12" active and 15" passive) are probably worn out too? The HSU VF2-Mk4 looks like a good compromise but their amps seem rather short-lived in comparison to SVS? Should I try to swing the PB-2000? Any advice appreciated.

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I went from the PB1000 to the PC12 and found it to be a large improvement. I'm sure the PB2000 is great as well, but there are some other quality subs you could consider it that price range as well. (ie the PSA XV15se - http://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/xv15se or the new PS15x from Reaction Audio http://reaction-audio.myshopify.com/...ered-subwoofer)

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Just out of curiosity, does anybody know why SVS does not make a SC sub (sealed cylinder)?


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SVS PC12-Plus and PC13-Ultra have a option of sealed mode so probably there is no reason to do only sealed sub.
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I think the Pluses are about 3-5 db better than the standard PC12...so yes that would be a significant improvement...mostly because you could take advantage of the lower tuning option.

The PC13 doesn't have quite the output of the PB13 and the PB13 I think is 3dB or so better than the PB-12plus so I would expect the difference between the PC12-plus and PC13 to be even smaller.

I think its a good idea to upgrade to the PC12-plus
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SVS PC12-Plus and PC13-Ultra have a option of sealed mode so probably there is no reason to do only sealed sub.
Thanks to you both for answering my questions. Sometime in the next year I'll probably upgrade to two PC12-Pluses.
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Just out of curiosity, does anybody know why SVS does not make a SC sub (sealed cylinder)?
Maybe because the lenght of the sub is for the ports. With no ports it would be just like a round PB facing downward. Maybe.
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Thanks to you both for answering my questions. Sometime in the next year I'll probably upgrade to two PC12-Pluses.
That is great ideal, I have dual Pluses and they are amazing. I also compared to single Ultra and dual Pluses is much better choice over single Ultra if you place them correctly.

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