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I'm not sure how these guys are having bad experiences with these subs. I have the PB-1000 and after watching the new Godzilla, my audiophile friend said "That's the smallest one they make? Holy S***"
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I Guess either too big rooms or lacking calibration will kill the performance of a sub. Even the best subs will sound like crap if not set up properly.
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1 - Would it be worthwhile to attempt to keep my current F12 and run dual subs? Or is the difference between the capabilities of these 2 subs simply to large to attempt such a thing?
I use 2 very different subs and IMO they work well together. Using the 2 very different subs definitely sounds better than only one or the other. So give it a try and hear for yourself. You've got nothing to lose.

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Anyone ever change the tuning for different material or does everyone just pick one and keep it there?

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I got my first SVS today. Man I was like a little kid seeing the box show up. Had a buddie help me take it out, popped it on the floor, PB 2000, looks impressive, so happy.


Then we plugged it in......nothing. Dead. DOA. Amp is shot. No lights, no nothing.


Strike one.


The good news is that Sonic Boom, these guys seem stellar. Great communication, and super quick at getting stuff shipped out. Anyways, got another amp on the way with no fuss whatsoever. Thanks Mason.


Sadly, for all the talk of SVS quality, the vinyl on the sub has a few issues. Bubble on top, and peel on the side. The thing was properly double boxed with no damage so this is obviously a quality issue at the factory. So Strike 2.


I live far away, Newfoundland, so this thing ain't cheap to be shipping back and forth. Mind you I don't pay for shipping but still, you gotta feel bad for expecting them to ship this back and another out if I pushed for it. But again, hey I paid for a new working sub right.


Anyways, once I get the replacement amp, I hope its worth it.
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My PB2000 arrived today and I must admit, I'm not blown away. Maybe I am doing something wrong. Maybe I am running it wrong. I'm running it threw a Yamaha RX-810.
You can't just put the sub wherever, hook it up and think it performe great. If it does you have more Luck than most. You need to calibrate it to fit the room and the rest of the audio gear.
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You can't just put the sub wherever, hook it up and think it performe great. If it does you have more Luck than most. You need to calibrate it to fit the room and the rest of the audio gear.
Made a cake the other day that was supposed to taste awesome. I threw all the ingredients in a big bowl and ate it. Tasted like ****.
I set up the subwoofer per directions. I put it along the wall set the dial at the 12 o'clock position, per directions, and nothing. My yamaha didn't even pick it up. I had to turn it way up. I was expecting greatness, the hype doesn't match. Im not a complete moron, I know how to set up a sub. The way everyone talks about this sub, is like the second coming of God. Hype does crazy things to people. It's a good sub, for all the hype, I was expecting better.
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I got my first SVS today. Man I was like a little kid seeing the box show up. Had a buddie help me take it out, popped it on the floor, PB 2000, looks impressive, so happy.


Then we plugged it in......nothing. Dead. DOA. Amp is shot. No lights, no nothing.


Strike one.


The good news is that Sonic Boom, these guys seem stellar. Great communication, and super quick at getting stuff shipped out. Anyways, got another amp on the way with no fuss whatsoever. Thanks Mason.


Sadly, for all the talk of SVS quality, the vinyl on the sub has a few issues. Bubble on top, and peel on the side. The thing was properly double boxed with no damage so this is obviously a quality issue at the factory. So Strike 2.


I live far away, Newfoundland, so this thing ain't cheap to be shipping back and forth. Mind you I don't pay for shipping but still, you gotta feel bad for expecting them to ship this back and another out if I pushed for it. But again, hey I paid for a new working sub right.


Anyways, once I get the replacement amp, I hope its worth it.

did you buy new or their 2nd hand B stock?
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I set up the subwoofer per directions. I put it along the wall set the dial at the 12 o'clock position, per directions, and nothing. My yamaha didn't even pick it up. I had to turn it way up. I was expecting greatness, the hype doesn't match. Im not a complete moron, I know how to set up a sub. The way everyone talks about this sub, is like the second coming of God. Hype does crazy things to people. It's a good sub, for all the hype, I was expecting better.
This doesn't make sense. The sub doesn't send anything for the AVR to "pick up". Sounds more like your AVR has a really low output that the sub is not picking up. A low output would be why the sub has low output as well.

This could be an issue with the sub amp, your cable or your AVR. What is/was the sub trim on your AVR set at? This affects how much voltage your AVR is putting to the sub.

did you try using a splitter and using both the left and right inputs on the sub. This can sometimes help with the auto on sensing.
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Man that's really cool,It's crazy 130dbs WOW.That's a hard hitting sub for sure.I cant wait to get my pb-13 ultra when i do get it i will be doing a unboxing and i will get some pic up on here.I am trying to get my sub around the holiday's or after the holiday's.
yeah it's really too much. i gave my yamaha sw800 to my brother in law today and he was really happy with it. ah well until he hears my new svs lol.
unboxing ? here you go
the connection wire is a Link Interlink Two 5 meters of it.
the REW graph was with only svs pb13 ultra and volume on -6dB , avr volume at -15dB, line input volume -3dB and REW mic was 6,5 meters from the sub. it's insain really.
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Welcome in the club DaJoJo -- I like your taste in music from the subwoofer song a day thread, so I'm pretty sure you'll appreciate what the Ultra can do to your playlist.
thanx man ! so far i just got time for playing a few songs , but they sound much better now and i finally can feel the inpact of the lows now. i am more then happy with it. i don't think i can do any better soundwise now. now that i have it, i'm sure i can bring on some more and better bass songs when i have some time left.

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I was running a reasonably good Klipsch subwoofer (forget which one) that -as it turns out, produced a lot of boomy sound. When I got my SVS SB-13 Ultra, I was confused because I was used to the boom and the SB doesn't do boomy, just clean bass. When it actually gets fed LFE and lower frequency sound, it sounds spectacular.
Point is, it may take a bit of getting used to the change in sound.
klipsch subs are crap too lol . the speakers though are very good.
but indeed it gets used to. i had my yamaha subs (sw800&sw1500) for 14 years now and they did reasonably well in the time. now that i have this pb13 ultra and finally i get the bass i was expecting from a sub. it did need a day to get used to it and position it in the corner and do some tuning and turn up the volume , but after that it's just audio nirvana.

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I'm not sure how these guys are having bad experiences with these subs. I have the PB-1000 and after watching the new Godzilla, my audiophile friend said "That's the smallest one they make? Holy S***"
man i have the biggest they make and i'm scared as hell to play godzilla on it on 0dB level. with my yammie subs it was able to get my rear wall moving 2 cm, i don't wanna think of what gonna happen if i put it loud with this pb13 ultra lol

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Very odd if its setup properly that its this disappointing. Ive heard the pb2000s and while they arent the loudest subs out there they are quite clean and powerful. But still they can hit quite hard for a single 12"something like 110 db rms at 2meters 30hz and up and that is very loud to most people unless your in a 3000+cf room and the subs are far away from your mlp
Or it could be that he is sitting at a null spot.

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I set up the subwoofer per directions. I put it along the wall set the dial at the 12 o'clock position, per directions, and nothing. My yamaha didn't even pick it up. I had to turn it way up. I was expecting greatness, the hype doesn't match. Im not a complete moron, I know how to set up a sub. The way everyone talks about this sub, is like the second coming of God. Hype does crazy things to people. It's a good sub, for all the hype, I was expecting better.
does ur sub have a dB scale on it ? have to set volume to -6dB for it to be at half power. use the LFE out to the left line input from the sub. check if the LFE of yammie avr is set to LFE+Fronts. and the trim level on 0dB and sub adjustment also to 0dB.

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Or it could be that he is sitting at a null spot.
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did you buy new or their 2nd hand B stock?
Brand new. No b stock here in Canada. Shipped straight from svs warehouse.


Vinyl job is not very good, sloppy.
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Brand new. No b stock here in Canada. Shipped straight from svs warehouse.
Vinyl job is not very good, sloppy.
strange.. mine was spotless and everything brand-new in plastic. but you get a new one as i understand so i hope it be good and you can enjoy the thing.

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yeah it's really too much. i gave my yamaha sw800 to my brother in law today and he was really happy with it. ah well until he hears my new svs lol.
unboxing ? here you go
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the REW graph was with only svs pb13 ultra and volume on -6dB , avr volume at -15dB, line input volume -3dB and REW mic was 6,5 meters from the sub. it's insain really.
Looks great man it is nice to see you you with this amazing sub, btw nice finish I like wood finish over gloss for sure.Do you run REW on Mac or windows?

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Looks great man it is nice to see you you with this amazing sub, btw nice finish I like wood finish over gloss for sure.Do you run REW on Mac or windows?
yeah it is. i don't like the gloss appearance, everything else i have is wood finish and not shiny. i run it on windows 8.1, but the mic is a logitech usb mic and it only goes to about 115dB also not calibrated so i need to get me a umic-1 to get some good readouts. the dB meter i have is a professional one though. it better be, considering i paid 800€ for it.

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I set up the subwoofer per directions. I put it along the wall set the dial at the 12 o'clock position, per directions, and nothing. My yamaha didn't even pick it up. I had to turn it way up. I was expecting greatness, the hype doesn't match. Im not a complete moron, I know how to set up a sub. The way everyone talks about this sub, is like the second coming of God. Hype does crazy things to people. It's a good sub, for all the hype, I was expecting better.
This doesn't make sense. The sub doesn't send anything for the AVR to "pick up". Sounds more like your AVR has a really low output that the sub is not picking up. A low output would be why the sub has low output as well.

This could be an issue with the sub amp, your cable or your AVR. What is/was the sub trim on your AVR set at? This affects how much voltage your AVR is putting to the sub.

did you try using a splitter and using both the left and right inputs on the sub. This can sometimes help with the auto on sensing.
I was talking about yapo. It's not picking up sound unless I crank it all the way up, the volume dial.
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I was talking about yapo. It's not picking up sound unless I crank it all the way up, the volume dial.
You should set it with a SPL meter first. To about 75 db measured running the pink noise first.
Set the Sub output on the AVR to 0 and the gain on the PB 2000 should start around 2 O'Clock Some find 3 O Clock more to their liking. Then run the room correction.

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I was talking about yapo. It's not picking up sound unless I crank it all the way up, the volume dial.
SVS gave me the advice of putting a y cable on the back two use both the L and R inputs and it did make a difference. I got mine from Walmart for 4 or 5 dollars.
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I was talking about yapo. It's not picking up sound unless I crank it all the way up, the volume dial.
You may also try reversing the phase. With my Yamaha avr, I had to set the sub gain to 3 o'clock and then run ypao. That improved the results, but I still had an absence of bass. So I reversed the phase in the avr and wow! Night and day difference for me. What do you have the crossover knob set to on your sub?
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I set up the subwoofer per directions. I put it along the wall set the dial at the 12 o'clock position, per directions, and nothing. My yamaha didn't even pick it up. I had to turn it way up. I was expecting greatness, the hype doesn't match. Im not a complete moron, I know how to set up a sub. The way everyone talks about this sub, is like the second coming of God. Hype does crazy things to people. It's a good sub, for all the hype, I was expecting better.
Then there is something wrong. Either With the AVR, the cable or the sub. It goes without saying that even the worst sub ever would be detected by the AVR everything was functioning properly.

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I was talking about yapo. It's not picking up sound unless I crank it all the way up, the volume dial.
This post makes no sense. Explain further. What exactly happened when you ran YPAO? What are your settings? What AVR do you have? Set all speakers to small? Crossover? Sub volume?
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yeah it is. i don't like the gloss appearance, everything else i have is wood finish and not shiny. i run it on windows 8.1, but the mic is a logitech usb mic and it only goes to about 115dB also not calibrated so i need to get me a umic-1 to get some good readouts. the dB meter i have is a professional one though. it better be, considering i paid 800€ for it.
Why didn't you get the Black Oak finish then?

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Why didn't you get the Black Oak finish then?
He did. See pics in this post. I believe he was just stating that he definitely prefers the finish he got over the gloss finish.
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I was talking about yapo. It's not picking up sound unless I crank it all the way up, the volume dial.
Something is definitely not right. I would try turning the sub gain up to around 3/4 and run YPAO. See where the AVR sets your subwoofer level trim. If it is above zero, turn the gain up on the sub some more and re-run YPAO. The goal is to set the gain on the sub in such a way that YPAO will set the subwoofer trim around -8 or -9. Auto calibration almost always sets the subwoofer quieter than most people prefer, so this gives you room to turn the sub up 6 dB or so, to -2 or -3. Of course, this should be done AFTER you have performed the subwoofer crawl, to ensure the sub is in an optimal location for good bass at your main listening position. If you cannot get YPAO to set the sub down to -6 to -9 even with the gain maxed out, then a Y splitter might help, or there might be an issue with the sub or the AVR. Good luck!

Also, if you are able to get the sub setup properly this way, play some bass heavy music nice and loud. Not super low deep bass, but some nice punchy bass. Reverse the phase on the sub. If the bass weakens, the phase was correct, switch it back. If the bass noticeably improves, it was out of phase and is now correct.

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He did. See pics in this post. I believe he was just stating that he definitely prefers the finish he got over the gloss finish.
You are right, my bad!

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