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post #18781 of 18807 Old 11-20-2014, 10:14 AM
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Neutro, the Right Hand of God (ED Mullen) on SVS.
I appreciate the compliment but that is absurd I'm a relative newcomer here (had my first SVS sub in December 2011 and got my current subs a year later). Some people in these threads have *vintage* SVS equipment

Four years ago I was still arguing that it was absurd having a speaker playing down to 20 Hz.

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Although, I will only watch the movie until the Black Hawk is shot down. I'm ex-military and this happened right after I got out. I know the outcome...don't want to watch the whole movie.
Yeah terrible story. Although it probably wouldn't even be told if not for the book and movie. Perhaps you'd be more interested by the book. In fact, it's pretty awesome. It's basically journalistic work by Mark Bowden -- he interviewed the people who have taken part in the mission -- and put all of this into novel form, although it's basically a minute-to-minute description of the events.

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I, somewhat like Vietnam Vets, have problems with certain movies. Even though I'm considered a Desert Storm Vet, I was stationed on shore duty during this period. When I was on my world cruise on an aircraft carrier in 87, the USS Stark was hit by the Iraqis and 37 sailors lost their lives. We had just entered the Suez Canal. So, sorry to say, I am anti-Muslim.

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Hey guys, so I have officially joined the SVS family and got myself a PB-1000. Have never tried SVS before but have heard nothing but great things about these subs so suffice to say i'm looking forward to hooking this thing up and taking my home theater to a whole new level.

Just some quick questions though for people who have this particular sub; what settings have you got the sub on at the back? Like the phase, crossover settings etc?

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Still got my SVS-PB10ISD....probably the sub that put SVS on the map really. Sure it wasn't their most powerful...but the value prospect at the time was unheard of.
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Hey guys, so I have officially joined the SVS family and got myself a PB-1000. Have never tried SVS before but have heard nothing but great things about these subs so suffice to say i'm looking forward to hooking this thing up and taking my home theater to a whole new level.

Just some quick questions though for people who have this particular sub; what settings have you got the sub on at the back? Like the phase, crossover settings etc?

I have the phase set to 0 (I played with it and my SPL meter couldn't hear a difference at the crossover point, so I think I'm good). I also have it set to LFE (to bypass the sub's crossover because I'm using a single cable from the sub-out on my AVR). And the gain I have set to around 2 o'clock. Then I used the AVR's test tones and my SPL meter to set the trim in the AVR so that the SPL meter reads 78 dB at my main listening position. All of these work incredible and the sub is easily worth the money (and has made me want to spend even more to go higher up the SVS chain). I love my sub and I hope you love yours too!

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Currently watching on: BenQ W1070, 82" 1.0 Gain Screen, PS3, with Yamaha RX-V473, SVS PB-1000, a Def Tech CS-8040HD, 2 SM65 for L/R, and 2 PM 800s for surrounds.
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Bass is very addictive. Always wanting more.
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I have the phase set to 0 (I played with it and my SPL meter couldn't hear a difference at the crossover point, so I think I'm good). I also have it set to LFE (to bypass the sub's crossover because I'm using a single cable from the sub-out on my AVR). And the gain I have set to around 2 o'clock. Then I used the AVR's test tones and my SPL meter to set the trim in the AVR so that the SPL meter reads 78 dB at my main listening position. All of these work incredible and the sub is easily worth the money (and has made me want to spend even more to go higher up the SVS chain). I love my sub and I hope you love yours too!
So is 78dB the sweet spot for subwoofer levels? I have the rest of my speakers set at 75dB

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So is 78dB the sweet spot for subwoofer levels? I have the rest of my speakers set at 75dB
I believe that 78dB is used because my cheaper (RadioShack) SPL meter doesn't handle the lower octaves as well, so you add a little boost and it helps account for the mic quality. Either way it sounds awesome to me.

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So is 78dB the sweet spot for subwoofer levels? I have the rest of my speakers set at 75dB
75dB is the Dolby recommended setting. Along with 80Hz for the sub and speakers.

However, unless you are doing some scientific calibrations and graphs, set it to what sounds best in YOUR room. Every room and system is different. YMMV, of course.

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Just some quick questions though for people who have this particular sub; what settings have you got the sub on at the back? Like the phase, crossover settings etc?
Well it really depends on how you're using the sub. If it's connected on an AVR with bass management, you should begin by setting the sub's gain knob to about 2-o'clock, phase at 0, low pass filter disabled. Then adjust the gain to calibrate you sub's playback level. If you're running a 2.1 setup without bass management then things will be a bit different. You can already read SVS's quick setup guide and manual -- they're pretty well done.

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Still got my SVS-PB10ISD....probably the sub that put SVS on the map really. Sure it wasn't their most powerful...but the value prospect at the time was unheard of.
Not sure if there really was such a moment for SVS -- my reading of the situation is that it basically was a steady ramp up

Oh and @Mongo171 -- check Sdiver's join date compared to mine

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I believe that 78dB is used because my cheaper (RadioShack) SPL meter doesn't handle the lower octaves as well, so you add a little boost and it helps account for the mic quality. Either way it sounds awesome to me.
Good point, if calibrating manually, SPL meters typically have a lower response for low frequencies, hence the 78 dB reading. When using 75 dB SPL test tones, the goal is first to obtain flat calibration and get a 75 dB SPL calibrated reading. Then feel free to run the sub hot if wished/needed. When using the mic that comes with the AVR, the mic's calibration is taken into account internally. With a RS meter, you can always refer to the calibration file if you have it but the problem is, pink noise spans a large frequency range so it's a bit touchy to get the right value. 78 dB SPL is the target you should be after at first if you're not using the AVR's mic and your SPL meter is not properly calibrated for low freqs.
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Mongo, I like your posts a lot but I have to call that one out F'ing Irene scene goes down to about 7 Hz but there is absolutely no way an Ultra at 20 Hz tune is playing that. First the output of the driver will fall like a rock at 24 dB/octave below the tune. Second, in order to protect the driver, which is unloaded below tune, SVS applies a strong protection high-pass filter a few Hz below tuning, which adds another 24 dB/octave (I believe this will be around 15-16 Hz in 20 Hz tune). So below that threshold output will fall at 48 dB/octave and you have more than one octave to go before reaching 7 Hz.

That being said, the scene is full of harmonics so you get plenty of 14 Hz, 21 Hz, 28 Hz and so on. But it won't be the most impressive scene in your demo catalog unless you get a monster DIY setup.
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Neutro, the Right Hand of God (ED Mullen) on SVS.

I pretty much assumed it was the harmonics. I thought I posted something about harmonics (on one of these threads). I do know there is no way that my water heater will play down into the single digits. Still a fun scene for me. Although, I will only watch the movie until the Black Hawk is shot down. I'm ex-military and this happened right after I got out. I know the outcome...don't want to watch the whole movie.
Mongo, have you tried scenes like that in sealed mode just to compare?

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Mongo, have you tried scenes like that in sealed mode just to compare?
On my end, I haven't tried by dual Pluses in sealed mode (...yet). However I do happen to have a secondary setup with a potent sealed sub in a room with more room gain than my main setup. By measurement it looks like I get pretty good extension there (circa 10-11 Hz although I have a nasty dip under just under 20 Hz), but for now I can't say I'm more awed by F'ing Irene in the secondary setup vs my main setup.

One of the reasons for this is that to even register ULF at single-digit frequencies, levels have to be really high and I've never had the occasion to try those (not even sure I could reach the levels required). Hence my comment about monster DIY setups; although one (or many) Ultras in a small room certainly could be up to the job in sealed mode I guess.
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I have been settling in with my pair of Sb12NSD for a few months now. Couldn't be happier on the music front.

I get a bit bummed out on the movie side of things and sometimes think I should have gone ported as the LFE I would describe as solid but certainly not amazing. The best remedy I have found during these moments is to grab my tape measure and look at how big the ported models are by comparison...never would have got those past the minister

I have had a plate amp die but the after sales service has been first rate. SVS seem like a solid company to deal with. Maybe in due course I'll be able to grab a big ported sucker to bring the rumble!
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PC-2000 on order.
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Sweet!

Now it's time for tracking and waiting for those 3 magic words: Out for Delivery!!!
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It's not available for delivery for another 3 weeks here but maybe x-mas is early this year anyway.
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I'm happy to say that my PB13 Ultra has plenty of headroom in my 20x18 room with 30' ceilings and open to the entire house, lol. This is partially because I was able to arrange the furniture in a way where the sub would still be front corner located, but closer to the couch. My old room was similar in size, but had sloped 20' ceilings, and I was able to reduce the gain in the new room. This sub is the ultimate beast!

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How do you have it tuned? 20, 16 or sealed?

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What's up guy's.it's crazy today i think i have already been about 2 year's without a subwoofer in my home theater setup.It's crazy because i kinda forgot what good bass sound's like.I am really hopeing i can get my new pb13 ultra after the holiday's.But idk i am so close with buying a pb13ultra.Lastnight i was playing xbox one and some halo mc collection with my cousin and i noticed the lack of bass and halo is a really bass game.But yeah anyway's it's looking good .
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I'm right there with you! Can't wait for the PC-2000.
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I'm right there with you! Can't wait for the PC-2000.
It's been 3 weeks since I sold my old subs and I won't get the PC-2000 until mid December. I'm going through withdrawal.
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I have the current PB12 Plus powered subwoofer with the 800 watts.

I need some advice on getting the PB12 Plus to sound nicely with the 2 bookshelf speakers. Anyone of you have the PB12 Plus and use it for a 2 channel music?

Does it sound the best for 2 channel music if you leave all 3 port holes open or close (plug) all 3 port holes? Or plug only 1 port?

Also, do you set the crossover at 80Hz with the receiver?

Do I need to set anything configuration with the PB12 Plus? Right now, I left all the settings with the PB12 Plus alone except for the Volume.

Thanks for any advice!
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I have the current PB12 Plus powered subwoofer with the 800 watts.

I need some advice on getting the PB12 Plus to sound nicely with the 2 bookshelf speakers. Anyone of you have the PB12 Plus and use it for a 2 channel music?

Does it sound the best for 2 channel music if you leave all 3 port holes open or close (plug) all 3 port holes? Or plug only 1 port?

Also, do you set the crossover at 80Hz with the receiver?

Do I need to set anything configuration with the PB12 Plus? Right now, I left all the settings with the PB12 Plus alone except for the Volume.

Thanks for any advice!
For music I always like sealed. I cross my fronts over at 80hz and my surrounds at 100hz.

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For music I always like sealed. I cross my fronts over at 80hz and my surrounds at 100hz.

Thanks for your advice!

I am using the Pure Direct mode with the receiver. I am not using the back speakers. Just have a pair of bookshelf speakers and the PB12 Plus.
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Thanks for your advice!

I am using the Pure Direct mode with the receiver. I am not using the back speakers. Just have a pair of bookshelf speakers and the PB12 Plus.
I like my PC12+ better in sealed mode for music as well. I currently run my towers as large and the sub as LFE +main. I find in my room I get a better sound at the low to moderate volumes I normally listen at.


Depending on the capabilities of your speakers 80hz is a good place to start. Maybe even go to 100hz or higher to see if the mid bass is better from the sub or the speakers.

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