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This is true.I think tho what i am going to do is buy one pb13 ultra first.Then down the road get another one if i need another one.I might not need 2 have dual pb13 ultras.As much as i want to have dual.For right now my room size is only 9x11 so yeah even one pb13 ultra is already overkill lmao.
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I think tho what i am going to do is buy one pb13 ultra first.Then down the road get another one if i need another one.I might not need 2 have dual pb13 ultras.As much as i want to have dual.For right now my room size is only 9x11 so yeah even one pb13 ultra is already overkill lmao.
Good plan... trust me, 1 pb13-ultra will make that 9x11 room cry for mercy
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Good plan... trust me, 1 pb13-ultra will make that 9x11 room cry for mercy
It's going to rock my apartment house lmao.My family is going to flip out tho.So i will do mybest not do go crazy.But when there no home i will rock the house lol.
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There are many owners of sb13ultras on here that have said the bass the ultra puts out is earth shattering
It isn't. Its a very good sealed sub. It would take four to approach the low end output of one PB13 Ultra.
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I agree I have a buddy that has a sb and I have a ported sub, mine goes way louder but his sounds great for sound quality and music. A well designed ported can sound great for music too. Ported usually kills sealed in output above 20hz.
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I agree I have a buddy that has a sb and I have a ported sub, mine goes way louder but his sounds great for sound quality and music. A well designed ported can sound great for music too. Ported usually kills sealed in output above 20hz.
With the svs pb13 ultra you get the best of both world's.You can seal the ports or have them opened.So in all realness haveing a PB13 Ultra over the SB13 ultra.Is a really big advatage.
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This is true.I think tho what i am going to do is buy one pb13 ultra first.Then down the road get another one if i need another one.I might not need 2 have dual pb13 ultras.As much as i want to have dual.For right now my room size is only 9x11 so yeah even one pb13 ultra is already overkill lmao.
9 x 11 is a very small room, I've got my plus in a room that is 11 X 12 and it gives a ton of bass. I wouldn't mind a second sub to clean up a few nulls, but shaking the room has not been an issue.
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Finally got the time to run Audyssey, and was surprised to find out that running the towers full range without a sub has slightly more satisfying bass response than when crossing them over at 80hz and using the sub.

The 2039PCi is the only decent sub I've ever owned, and obviously I've enjoyed it, since I've used it for seven years. I'm just shocked the towers do a better job in the bass department.

I was thinking of upgrading the sub down the road, either to the PC Ultra or the SB Ultra, but now I'm not so sure. Wondering if anybody has made a similar upgrade, and could comment on if I could expect superior bass performance with a subwoofer upgrade?

The subwoofer is properly placed, so it isn't a null issue. I just think the Ultra Towers provide more bass power than this old SVS sub! Surely a new SVS Ultra sub would provide better bass response right?

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With new technology, the speakers and a new sub will sound great together. Not many components can stand the test of time without getting long in the tooth. You'd be amazed how the newer subs sound.
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It isn't. Its a very good sealed sub. It would take four to approach the low end output of one PB13 Ultra.
SVS's outlet section is it's own commentary. Subject to interpretation of course, but over time, there always appears to be a greater number of SB13U's available over PB13U's.

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My SB2000 was just delivered. I haven't done any test yet but i could tell it has incredible pitch definition just from playing the receivers calibration test tone. The sound is also very tight and detailed. This probably sounds silly just from playing a rumble sound. If anything this lets me know know how good the sub is already without even playing anything.


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With the svs pb13 ultra you get the best of both world's.You can seal the ports or have them opened.So in all realness haveing a PB13 Ultra over the SB13 ultra.Is a really big advatage.
The SB13 Ultra definitely has its place. People who want a great sub for music. People who want a sub for double duty music and home theater but need a small footprint. It performs very well for its size, but cannot compete with good ported subs around tune.

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I bought the sb13 ultra for its smaller size and not much desire for wall shaking bass. I really just want a bit more bottom end that's high quality to couple with my kef ls50's. I'm currently using a diy Dayton ultimax 15" subwoofer which sounds terrible to me, a lot of power but no quality. Once I get the sb13 ultra and assuming it meets my expectations I'll probably sell the Dayton and put my diy venture to rest.
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I see everyone always worries about volume. What about sound quality? Our rooms aren't concert halls or movie theaters (well mine isn't haha) you probably have all the volume you need. For me anything 90db+ from 15hz and up is gravy.

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I bought the sb13 ultra for its smaller size and not much desire for wall shaking bass. I really just want a bit more bottom end that's high quality to couple with my kef ls50's. I'm currently using a diy Dayton ultimax 15" subwoofer which sounds terrible to me, a lot of power but no quality. Once I get the sb13 ultra and assuming it meets my expectations I'll probably sell the Dayton and put my diy venture to rest.
I got dual SB2000s with my LS50s and they pair extremely well - Im sure the SB13U will be awesome.

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I bought the sb13 ultra for its smaller size and not much desire for wall shaking bass. I really just want a bit more bottom end that's high quality to couple with my kef ls50's. I'm currently using a diy Dayton ultimax 15" subwoofer which sounds terrible to me, a lot of power but no quality. Once I get the sb13 ultra and assuming it meets my expectations I'll probably sell the Dayton and put my diy venture to rest.
LS50s and an SB13ultra ... sounds like a great combination :-)

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I got dual SB2000s with my LS50s and they pair extremely well - Im sure the SB13U will be awesome.

Good to know. I did have the pb2000 a while back until I sold it and went diy but that was before I got the ls50's. I discovered in the mean time that I'm not really much of a bass head so I thought the sb13 ultra would be the way to go, not exactly cheap though. I can't wait to get it actually and see what all the fuss is about, it should arrive early next week.
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Good to know. I did have the pb2000 a while back until I sold it and went diy but that was before I got the ls50's. I discovered in the mean time that I'm not really much of a bass head so I thought the sb13 ultra would be the way to go, not exactly cheap though. I can't wait to get it actually and see what all the fuss is about, it should arrive early next week.
Man i am really looking forward to your thoughts since you were in DIY route

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I bought the sb13 ultra for its smaller size and not much desire for wall shaking bass. I really just want a bit more bottom end that's high quality .
This was exactly my reasoning. My SB13 Ultra is head and shoulders above what I had (Klipsch RSW 10d if I recall correctly) but I cannot compare it to the PB13 Ultra because I haven't heard one. Still, I'm more than happy with my SB.

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Merry christmas to everyone .2015 cant not come faster for me.It's going to be the year that i bring in my first beast of a subwoofer the svs PB13 ULTRA!!!!! Everything so far is going good.and for that i am very blessed and happy.hope everyone else is haveing a nice enjoyable xmas day were every you all are.
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Post a picture of it next to a Monolith to show us how big it is! I have a 2 week old PB-2000 and right now it is all covered in nutcrackers!

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Merry christmas to everyone .2015 cant not come faster for me.It's going to be the year that i bring in my first beast of a subwoofer the svs PB13 ULTRA!!!!! Everything so far is going good.and for that i am very blessed and happy.hope everyone else is haveing a nice enjoyable xmas day were every you all are.

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When using the LFE input do you have to adjust the phase on the sub? I have a SB2000. It's set at the middle.

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Man. This sub really knows how start and stop immediately and separate notes. I was playing some music and couldn't stop smiling. I was shocked at the way one bass line played for a few seconds, stopped, then another came in and stopped quickly with no overhang and let the other continue to play so clearly. You could literally hear each note play and tell when it began and ended. Amazing. Movies sound even better. I'm hearing detail I didn't hear before and didn't even know was there. The beginning of Thor DW sounds completely different with the SB2000. I have usable output down to about 13hz. Un EQ'd.

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Post a picture of it next to a Monolith to show us how big it is! I have a 2 week old PB-2000 and right now it is all covered in nutcrackers!
When I Place my order sometime next year hopefully winter time or spring.I will be posting pics for sure .I will got ham on the pics lol.
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I just have to say I have an awesome wife. She had a PB-2000 under the tree for me. So now I have two matching subs (I had bought the first PB-2000 for myself back in August). Very cool! She's definitely not into audio like I am, so it was a very nice surprise. She's come a long way from not wanting a "big ugly box" in the great room. I think they look great in there. And of course they sound amazing. I think my hobby is starting to grow on her, as she appreciates the good sound too. Hope everyone had a great Christmas.
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I just have to say I have an awesome wife. She had a PB-2000 under the tree for me. So now I have two matching subs (I had bought the first PB-2000 for myself back in August). Very cool! She's definitely not into audio like I am, so it was a very nice surprise. She's come a long way from not wanting a "big ugly box" in the great room. I think they look great in there. And of course they sound amazing. I think my hobby is starting to grow on her, as she appreciates the good sound too. Hope everyone had a great Christmas.
Congrats man, if you really did not know about her to buying PB-2000 for you, it is amazing how she can hide it such a huge box. Also make sure you tell SVS you have 2 subs now you will have better price on those then MSRP what they have. Because if you did not know about purchase there will be 2 owners not one so SVS have no idea you have 2 subs at home.

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