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Went to run my AudysseyXT32 setup again, based on a new diagram I found over on the Audyssey thread. Imagine my surprise when I found one of my 2 SVS PC12 NSD subwoofers is dead. As in, no sound. As in, the green power light is on, but no sound from the sub at all. No hum, nothing. Tried switching cables, no joy.

The surprising thing to me is, I barely use this Home Theater system even 10 hours a month. Actually, less. Unfortunately.

I've got an email in to their support now. In the meantime, until Monday, anyone got any ideas? I'm kinda suprised that this sub gave up the ghost, no warning, very light use, even though it's close to 6 years old.
I would take the amp off and check connections. There is a chance that there was something lose and using the sub caused it to disconnect.

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If I select the Sealed tune with two ports plugged, is it true that acts as a 12Hz port tuning?
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If I select the Sealed tune with two ports plugged, is it true that acts as a 12Hz port tuning?
For newer models, anyway:

Stock the (no ports blocked) ... 20Hz tune
One port blocked ................... 16Hz tune
Two ports blocked .................. N/A (not supported)
Three ports blocked ................ Sealed

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Anyone got any idea on how much an old style SVS PB12+ in gloss black from 2006 is worth? This model.. http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...06-part-1.html
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a fair price would be 250$ imo
That seems such a small amount when you think what you'd get for $250 buying brand new.. are they frequently sold in the US? In the UK they probably aren't as common and I doubt you'd be able to get anything that even comes close performance wise for around Ā£500.

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For newer models, anyway:

Stock the (no ports blocked) ... 20Hz tune
One port blocked ................... 16Hz tune
Two ports blocked .................. N/A (not supported)
Three ports blocked ................ Sealed

What year was your sub manufactured?
I'll check later, but I just ordered mine six weeks ago. Granted, it was from the outlet store, but it's not the one with 20Hz, 15Hz, 10Hz port tuning. This one has 20Hz and 16Hz. I'm willing to bet it's a "newer model" if that's the case.
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Fuse? Speaker connector came off? Your neighbor is pissed at you and your Boom-Boom movies?
I'll check it today by taking the amp out. Didn't think it was a fuse, since the green power light illuminates. Loose connection inside is certainly a possibility. My money's on the pissed neighbor.
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Just finished an 800 mile trip to pick up dual pb13 ultras. Thanks @bambam, was a lot of fun!

I won't be able to use them for a few months so I want to read up on configuring these. I'm planning on using a Denon x4000 and I want to use REW. Is REW something that replaces Audyssey or am I supposed to run Audyssey for the speakers and REW for the subs?



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Just finished an 800 mile trip to pick up dual pb13 ultras. Thanks @bambam, was a lot of fun!

I won't be able to use them for a few months so I want to read up on configuring these. I'm planning on using a Denon x4000 and I want to use REW. Is REW something that replaces Audyssey or am I supposed to run Audyssey for the speakers and REW for the subs?




Congrat's on the subs. In regards to your question, in a nutshell, Audyssey is an EQ while REW is a measurement tool. While some manual EQ's can receive correction curves from REW (Velodyne SMS-1, MiniDSP, Behringer DSP-1124, etc), Audyssey doesn't and won't. Where REW will be useful for you as an Audyssey user will be in finding the best locations for your subs, insuring they are integrating well, and giving you a feel for your rooms acoustics. This might not seem like much to some but it probably is as least as important as the EQ. Placement can help limit the needs/demand for EQ but EQ can't undue poor placement/setup/integration.

REW is freeware and hosted by hometheatershack.com. Excellent tutorials on REW and what else you will need to run on the forums there.

Congrats again.
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Just finished an 800 mile trip to pick up dual pb13 ultras. Thanks @bambam, was a lot of fun!

I won't be able to use them for a few months so I want to read up on configuring these. I'm planning on using a Denon x4000 and I want to use REW. Is REW something that replaces Audyssey or am I supposed to run Audyssey for the speakers and REW for the subs?



Nice set up you will have, congrats, hope you will enjoy it soon. Audyssey XT32 is what you want so Denon X4000 or 4520 or new line with Atmos will give it to you. Don't rush AVR purchase a specially if you want X4000 or 4520 prices dropping so even better deal will be there later on. What set up you will have on end? 5.2, 7.2 or more?
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Just finished an 800 mile trip to pick up dual pb13 ultras. Thanks @bambam, was a lot of fun!

I won't be able to use them for a few months so I want to read up on configuring these. I'm planning on using a Denon x4000 and I want to use REW. Is REW something that replaces Audyssey or am I supposed to run Audyssey for the speakers and REW for the subs?



Instead of all that, you could have the same with canal earplugs and just a bit slightly smaller

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Nice set up you will have, congrats, hope you will enjoy it soon. Audyssey XT32 is what you want so Denon X4000 or 4520 or new line with Atmos will give it to you. Don't rush AVR purchase a specially if you want X4000 or 4520 prices dropping so even better deal will be there later on. What set up you will have on end? 5.2, 7.2 or more?
I'm going to start with 5.2 for now and maybe move to 7.2. It looks like the x4000 is discontinued so I'm hoping to grab a deal on it over the next couple months. I'm not starting my build for a few months so plenty of time.

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Instead of all that, you could have the same with canal earplugs and just a bit slightly smaller
lol, that's what I'm using now, well headphones that is.
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[QUOTE=ch1sox;32237113]I'm going to start with 5.2 for now and maybe move to 7.2. It looks like the x4000 is discontinued so I'm hoping to grab a deal on it over the next couple months. I'm not starting my build for a few months so plenty of time.

Yes it is, I have one of those and it is great AVR will drive your whole system like a champ without any problems. Let us know for sure what is new with your system.

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I'll check it today by taking the amp out. Didn't think it was a fuse, since the green power light illuminates. Loose connection inside is certainly a possibility. My money's on the pissed neighbor.
Received an email from SVS CSR. Took the amp out, all looks clean. All connections are tight. He surmises (after I checked the woofer itself) that the amp is gone. We're discussing getting a SLEDGE amp for this sub, since mine is old enough to have the older BASH amp built-in. If I do one sub with what amounts to an amp upgrade, I might as well do the other one, too. At least, that's what I think.
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I'm pretty confident your subs frequency response is not going to change over time.
I just came across this. Food for thought

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/head-to-head-review-ascend-acoustics-cbm-170-se-vs-wharfedale-diamond-10-1.89051/page-4

If EMP and the guy behind the Arx speakers (Jon Lane) tell me break in is not a myth, I'm inclined to believe them (even if the differences are small). And I would think the same physics at work on smaller woofers applies to larger ones, as well.

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I just came across this. Food for thought

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...1.89051/page-4

If EMP and the guy behind the Arx speakers (Jon Lane) tell me break in is not a myth, I'm inclined to believe them (even if the differences are small). And I would think the same physics at work on smaller woofers applies to larger ones, as well.
I have measured speaker break in changing the T/S parameters of a speaker. However, what I witnessed was very interesting. I ran a speaker hard near its resonance point for a day and when I measured the parameters the Fs had indeed dropped by 6-10Hz. However the other parameters had also changed. The net result is that the parameter changes cancelled eachother out and did not have an effect on the design. Additionally, the Fs again rose when the speaker "cooled down" for a while. There was a small permanent change in Fs and other parameters but again, it did not have an effect on the design.

Again, this is anecdotal because this is one speaker in my own design. However, I can confirm break in is real. However, I do not put much weight into it producing a noticeable change to sound of a speaker...again at least in my case.
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I just came across this. Food for thought

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...1.89051/page-4

If EMP and the guy behind the Arx speakers (Jon Lane) tell me break in is not a myth, I'm inclined to believe them (even if the differences are small). And I would think the same physics at work on smaller woofers applies to larger ones, as well.
Klipsch recommends 100 hours of break in.

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Just finished an 800 mile trip to pick up dual pb13 ultras. Thanks @bambam, was a lot of fun!

I won't be able to use them for a few months so I want to read up on configuring these. I'm planning on using a Denon x4000 and I want to use REW. Is REW something that replaces Audyssey or am I supposed to run Audyssey for the speakers and REW for the subs?



Sweet Jesus! That is better than a Playboy layout..... Congrats.
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I just lucked out and found a PC12-NSD on the outlet! Have been checking for a week. I was really sick that day they had them on clearance. I've been wanting to add a second for awhile so I'm pretty happy. I originally was gonna upgrade to 2 PC2000's but I hate the way they look compared to the NSD and Plus with their grilled tops and soft fabric. Plus I think for the room it's in, NSDx2 is probably enough sub. 2x2000s might have been spending money I didn't need to.

Anyway I'm really looking forward to how these 2 will sound together, ditching the bloaty Klipsch.
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I to like the size of the PC-2000 i called SVS and they said two PC2000's should provide more output than the PB12+ i have. I don't know why i am having a hard time just placing the order for these subs and going the dual route vs a single sub. After doing alot of research 9 out of 10 people will recommend dual even if it is two decent subs vs one big powerfull sub. Maybe part of the reason is space i am pretty limited on a dual set up but i could make it work. And of course i know one i experience dual's i would be happy. Any advise ?
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Piano Black Finish

I really like the look of the finish However in looking through the Outlet section I consistently seem to see a lot of units with scratches and/or cracked finishes

Does the piano black finish have to be babied. Right now I'm leaning towards the real oak finish in the Ultra line.

Also, for PC-2000 owners, does the wood top come off easily?

Thanks for any thoughts on the piano black issue or the PC-2000 top,

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I've had a PC-2000 with piano gloss top for a month now but have not had a reason to take the top off. If I were to put anything on the top, I would lay something down to protect it. But I would do that for any the wood grain too cause I'm careful with everything.


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Yes, the top comes off fairly easy, just get your finger nail under it and with a little force it will pop off.

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I really like the look of the finish However in looking through the Outlet section I consistently seem to see a lot of units with scratches and/or cracked finishes

Does the piano black finish have to be babied. Right now I'm leaning towards the real oak finish in the Ultra line.
I can't speak of SVS in particular but I've had a piano black finish Velodyne for the past eighteen years and the finish is perfect, it doesn't attract dust, nor does it smudge. The trick is not to mishandle it or bump things into it. No finish can withstand that. I wouldn't hesitate to order the piano black.
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I have already tried the dual PC2000's they play a little louder but my plus sounds better so those are going back shortly.
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