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Well my PC12-NSD is gonna get here tomorrow. I wonder how much better it's gonna sound with 2 PCs? I'm gonna test some content I'm used to like Gravity, Tron, Star Wars ANH, and Peter Pan. <- yes there is some good LFE at the end.
Are you still keeping the Klipsch sub or are you getting rid of it all together. I would think the dual PC's are gonna put a big ole on your face.

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Are you still keeping the Klipsch sub or are you getting rid of it all together. I would think the dual PC's are gonna put a big ole on your face.
Gonna sell it as long as the 2nd NSD really impresses me. I have a 2nd TV downstairs but I am happy with it with the smaller system, the Polk CS10 and a PSW10 sub. Plus other Polk speakers. Very small but gets the job done in a small area. No need to put a big boomy sub in that small area.

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Well my PC12-NSD is gonna get here tomorrow. I wonder how much better it's gonna sound with 2 PCs? I'm gonna test some content I'm used to like Gravity, Tron, Star Wars ANH, and Peter Pan. <- yes there is some good LFE at the end.
Well, as someone who's owned a pair of these for about 6 years, you're gonna love it. I can't imagine going back to just one subwoofer now.
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Well, as someone who's owned a pair of these for about 6 years, you're gonna love it. I can't imagine going back to just one subwoofer now.

I'm trying to talk the wife into agreeing on a second PC-2000 to put on the opposite side of the the room from the current one. You know, to balance it out!


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Well, as someone who's owned a pair of these for about 6 years, you're gonna love it. I can't imagine going back to just one subwoofer now.
Well I already run 2. My second is a Klipsch RW12d but it only goes down to 23 vs. 18. So that second NSD will help make those sub 22hz feel more impactful. And hopefully also being the same sub, all the rest of the bass will be more tight and hard hitting. I want to hear it less and feel it more. That's the thought of adding a second NSD.

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I'm trying to talk the wife into allowing me to buy a second PC-2000 to put on the opposite side of the the room from the current one. You know, to balance it out!


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It will do more than balance it out it should increase the impact you feel. I will report back how 2 NSD's do. I run the subs on opposite ends in the corners which is supposed to "excite" bass. Which is fine, I just want to replace the cheaper more bloaty sub with a more high end matching sub. I hope I hear significant gains.

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It will do more than balance it out it should increase the impact you feel. I will report back how 2 NSD's do. I run the subs on opposite ends in the corners which is supposed to "excite" bass. Which is fine, I just want to replace the cheaper more bloaty sub with a more high end matching sub. I hope I hear significant gains.

Oh yea, please do.

I'm telling the wife that having another PC-2000 on the opposite side of the room from the other would balance the room visually since it looks lopsided with a big sub on one side. The one PC-2000 sounds fantastic but to have another on the opposite side would definitely provide great impact.


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Well my PC12-NSD is gonna get here tomorrow. I wonder how much better it's gonna sound with 2 PCs? I'm gonna test some content I'm used to like Gravity, Tron, Star Wars ANH, and Peter Pan. <- yes there is some good LFE at the end.
You should also try, Edge Of Tomorrow (opening scene). I had to stop my wife from dialing 911. My SB13 Ultra shook everything in the house!
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Gonna sell it as long as the 2nd NSD really impresses me. I have a 2nd TV downstairs but I am happy with it with the smaller system, the Polk CS10 and a PSW10 sub. Plus other Polk speakers. Very small but gets the job done in a small area. No need to put a big boomy sub in that small area.
Oh, but wouldnt a PB-1000 be oh so nice in that "smaller" area? lol....

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Oh, but wouldnt a PB-1000 be oh so nice in that "smaller" area? lol....
Funny you should mention that!!! I'm thinking I'll do exactly that...replace my existing PSW10 with a PB-1000 in my secondary area...perhaps from the outlet store.

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You should also try, Edge Of Tomorrow (opening scene). I had to stop my wife from dialing 911. My SB13 Ultra shook everything in the house!
I actually did test that, but didn't mention it. Yes I want to hear the difference. With my current set up it gets pretty "bloaty". Maybe that's normal or maybe that really is the Klipsch. My NSD is here so it's testing time soon!

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Oh, but wouldnt a PB-1000 be oh so nice in that "smaller" area? lol....
I have other hobbies taking my money. I used to have Monitor 70s and CSII and a BIC F12 I would have put down there but I sold them. At first I didn't like what I had when I set it up. But after I played some PS3 on it I was pretty happy. I don't want to spend $400+ on a secondary system that I don't even watch movies on. All I do is play a little PS3 and XBOX 360. Not worth it.

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You should also try, Edge Of Tomorrow (opening scene). I had to stop my wife from dialing 911. My SB13 Ultra shook everything in the house!
^This. Be careful though...it's awesome. I went outside my house and listened to it try and shake itself apart.

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Is it normal for the SB-2000 to have a slight hiss? I can barely hear a hiss from about 2 feet away. Even when I unplug it from my AVR (only power). My old Velodyne does not have a hiss.

Changing the crossover settings makes no difference. Also, it is silent when the sub goes into standby (no blue light).

I tried contacting sonicboomaudio (canadian distributor) but no reply after 48 hours. I'll have to dig through the documentation that came with the SB-2000 next - maybe I am not supposed to contact them?

Oh - and it didn't hiss when I first got it a couple of months ago.

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Is it normal for the SB-2000 to have a slight hiss? I can barely hear a hiss from about 2 feet away. Even when I unplug it from my AVR (only power). My old Velodyne does not have a hiss.

Changing the crossover settings makes no difference. Also, it is silent when the sub goes into standby (no blue light).

I tried contacting sonicboomaudio (canadian distributor) but no reply after 48 hours. I'll have to dig through the documentation that came with the SB-2000 next - maybe I am not supposed to contact them?

Oh - and it didn't hiss when I first got it a couple of months ago.
Sounds like it could be a ground loop hum. Is the sub plugged into the same outlet as your receiver? Or a different outlet?

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The sub is on the same set of power receptacles as the AVR (same breaker). It's a hiss not a hum though - volume control makes no difference, and the pitch seems to be a few hundred hertz (guessing). Definitely not a 60 hz or 120 hz hum.

I'll try different outlets just to be sure.
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The sub is on the same set of power receptacles as the AVR (same breaker). It's a hiss not a hum though - volume control makes no difference, and the pitch seems to be a few hundred hertz (guessing). Definitely not a 60 hz or 120 hz hum.

I'll try different outlets just to be sure.
These also cause a hiss: upstream equipment, fluorescent lights, dimmer switchs, power cables, power panel...
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So far with my initial testing of 2 PC12-NSD vs PC12-NSD + Klipsch RW12-d. It's not much better. I was hoping for more of a tight "feel" but I'm just not getting it. I can def feel that some of the content has more of a "shake" but that's not really what I was going for. I was already happy with the shake. I was looking for more tight "punch". Before my NSD got here I went and looked at the tech specs of the Klipsch it is rated at 350hz and 825peak. So it supposedly is in the same range as the NSD. It's just the NSD goes lower.

I don't know, should I be looking at a sealed sub if I'm looking for "tighter" bass? I was pretty happy with the NSD + Klipsch but I am going to give it much more time before I decide. I still have my Y-splitter so I could always run all 3 for a while and test that.

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Is it normal for the SB-2000 to have a slight hiss? I can barely hear a hiss from about 2 feet away. Even when I unplug it from my AVR (only power). My old Velodyne does not have a hiss.

Changing the crossover settings makes no difference. Also, it is silent when the sub goes into standby (no blue light).

I tried contacting sonicboomaudio (canadian distributor) but no reply after 48 hours. I'll have to dig through the documentation that came with the SB-2000 next - maybe I am not supposed to contact them?

Oh - and it didn't hiss when I first got it a couple of months ago.
Do you use the auto standby feature on it?

I got slight humming on my both pb 2000s after long usage / long standby.

Im not sure which one does that.. because when i shut down the subs and then start them again, the humming is gone?

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So far with my initial testing of 2 PC12-NSD vs PC12-NSD + Klipsch RW12-d. It's not much better. I was hoping for more of a tight "feel" but I'm just not getting it. I can def feel that some of the content has more of a "shake" but that's not really what I was going for. I was already happy with the shake. I was looking for more tight "punch". Before my NSD got here I went and looked at the tech specs of the Klipsch it is rated at 350hz and 825peak. So it supposedly is in the same range as the NSD. It's just the NSD goes lower.

I don't know, should I be looking at a sealed sub if I'm looking for "tighter" bass? I was pretty happy with the NSD + Klipsch but I am going to give it much more time before I decide. I still have my Y-splitter so I could always run all 3 for a while and test that.
Have you run any in room response graphs?
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Do you use the auto standby feature on it?

I got slight humming on my both pb 2000s after long usage / long standby.

Im not sure which one does that.. because when i shut down the subs and then start them again, the humming is gone?
I use auto standby. I did disable that last night and power cycled the sub. Hiss is still there with or without standby.

It's a pretty quiet hiss. Have to be within a couple of feet to barely hear it.
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Have you run any in room response graphs?
No but I'm probably going to have to to get the most out of this set-up. What I had before I just plugged and played and liked it just fine. I could call SVS but can you provide any links to the equipment I will need?

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No but I'm probably going to have to to get the most out of this set-up. What I had before I just plugged and played and liked it just fine. I could call SVS but can you provide any links to the equipment I will need?
Its definitely worth it to get something like REW and a mic especially if you're looking for better detail in the subs
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I'll call SVS for some help. Placement options are severely limited. Doing some additional level matching might help. I mean I already have XT32. But it might be that I just don't like as much ultra low shake as I do low punch.

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So far with my initial testing of 2 PC12-NSD vs PC12-NSD + Klipsch RW12-d. It's not much better. I was hoping for more of a tight "feel" but I'm just not getting it. I can def feel that some of the content has more of a "shake" but that's not really what I was going for. I was already happy with the shake. I was looking for more tight "punch". Before my NSD got here I went and looked at the tech specs of the Klipsch it is rated at 350hz and 825peak. So it supposedly is in the same range as the NSD. It's just the NSD goes lower.

I don't know, should I be looking at a sealed sub if I'm looking for "tighter" bass? I was pretty happy with the NSD + Klipsch but I am going to give it much more time before I decide. I still have my Y-splitter so I could always run all 3 for a while and test that.
Give it some more time without the Klipsch sub. I had an RW12D and it's not even in the same league as SVS. It's a decent sub for the price but it has boomy, muddy bass compared to the SVS's. I wouldn't want to mix the 12D with an SVS for the mere fact of messing up the smooth detailed bass from the better sub. Just my two cents.

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Give it some more time without the Klipsch sub. I had an RW12D and it's not even in the same league as SVS. It's a decent sub for the price but it has boomy, muddy bass compared to the SVS's. I wouldn't want to mix the 12D with an SVS for the mere fact of messing up the smooth detailed bass from the better sub. Just my two cents.
So far though it's not smoother it's just more shaky. I am going to give it lots of time. I'll even have SVS try to help me get it working better.

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One of the many things I do not like about the PC-2000. The port is at the bottom back and the driver is at the bottom. That's not much of a cylinder if you ask me. The other PCs have the ports at the top and it shoots straight down. Not only does it look better, it just seems like a better design.

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That seems like a kind of silly comment. The ports location has no impact on the shape of the enclosure.

And while its neither here nor there, I like the moved port location. Looks better to me and just as functional as a port. Never liked the grill on top myself.

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That seems like a kind of silly comment. The ports location has no impact on the shape of the enclosure.

And while its neither here nor there, I like the moved port location. Looks better to me and just as functional as a port. Never liked the grill on top myself.
it's just my personal opinion it's not silly. I like the idea of the air going straight down from the top. Just like you like your opinion of it is fine. I mean it's more like a box that happens to be cylinder shaped. Again I like the idea of how the air is pulled in in the old design.

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