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post #21211 of 21238 Old 04-25-2015, 09:28 AM
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Hi SVS people. I'm sub shopping and am considering a PB-2000. Does SVS ever have sales, or are they always the same price? I see they have an outlet for "scratch and dent" type stuff, but dont see anything there.

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Hello, no sales only sometimes on discontinued models , outlet have Discount on returned or scratched subs. If PB-2000 is not there wait for while it will be there soon, just keep eye on it or call SVS sometimes they don't have all outlet subs on web for sale. No worries with outlet one if is not what you expect you can returned as well as new one.
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Hi SVS people. I'm sub shopping and am considering a PB-2000. Does SVS ever have sales, or are they always the same price? I see they have an outlet for "scratch and dent" type stuff, but dont see anything there.

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Like Retro said, keep an eye on the specials. I got my PB-2000 for $729 from the outlet.

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Has anyone one here went from a pc12nds to a pb2000 or pc2000 ? Im asking because last year I purchased a pb1000 which was a big upgrade over my Athena micra htib but I guess my expectations were higher than the performance and I returned. Then late last year I purchased a pc12nds on closeout thinking this would give me the little extra punch and lower extension i was looking for but after numerous tweaks and countless moving the sub around it still doesn't deliver the low frequency extension that the pb1000 produced. For reference the pb1000 would shake my couch on the u571 dept charge scene and the pc12nds lightly vibrates the couch.

I'm thinking I might need to get duel pb1000 for smoother response or a pc2000/pb2000 but Im a little hesitant on the 2000 not delivering a significant upgrade over the 1000.

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I heard a PB2000 the other day. I thought it was a PB13U that's how powerful it was. I have to say the PB2000 is outstanding but I'm of course happy with my PB13U.

Now I am thinking of getting another sub for my living room.

Can the PB2000 be paired with my PB13U or should I take the plunge and get another PB13U?
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I heard a PB2000 the other day. I thought it was a PB13U that's how powerful it was. I have to say the PB2000 is outstanding but I'm of course happy with my PB13U.

Now I am thinking of getting another sub for my living room.

Can the PB2000 be paired with my PB13U or should I take the plunge and get another PB13U?
If it was me and i already own a PB13U and i was thinking about getting another svs sub .And if i had to pick from a pb2000 or another pb13u.I WOULD HANDS DOWN GET ANOTHER PB13 ULTRA.Why because more power and my guess is a hell of a lot more equal.As far a the pb2000 goes i myself would not get one just to make it dual in mysetup i feel it would be under powering with the ultra for sure.
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There is really nothing that can beat the FV15HP from an ID company until you spend MEGA bucks.
The FV15HP is no doubt a great sub. However, there are three competitors who have undoubtedly closed all or most of the performance gap at a lower price...namely the PSA V1500, the Hsu VTF15H Mk2, and the RA Echo 15. The RA Echo 18 will undoubtedly substantially outperform the FV15HP for $1299 shipped.
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Has anyone one here went from a pc12nds to a pb2000 or pc2000 ? Im asking because last year I purchased a pb1000 which was a big upgrade over my Athena micra htib but I guess my expectations were higher than the performance and I returned. Then late last year I purchased a pc12nds on closeout thinking this would give me the little extra punch and lower extension i was looking for but after numerous tweaks and countless moving the sub around it still doesn't deliver the low frequency extension that the pb1000 produced. For reference the pb1000 would shake my couch on the u571 dept charge scene and the pc12nds lightly vibrates the couch.

I'm thinking I might need to get duel pb1000 for smoother response or a pc2000/pb2000 but Im a little hesitant on the 2000 not delivering a significant upgrade over the 1000.

My listening habits are 99% movies.

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I think the PB2000 will be a noticeable upgrade for you. The PB/PC12-NSD line had decent output at 20 Hz, rolled off quickly below that, and had pretty lackluster output everywhere else. The PB2000 has good extension down to at least 16 Hz and stronger output than the NSD line. It should handily outperform the PB1000.
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I am considering purchasing a couple PB13-Ultras and was wondering about the feet. I don't want the subs on the ground because I don't have carpet in the room where my HT stuff is. Does the user have to drill holes in the gloss black finish to insert the optional rubber feet?
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No it has a metal inserts and rubber conical feet supplied.
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Is it possible to place a PB13 90 degrees sideways?


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Im deciding between the SVS SB13 Ultra and the PSA s3000i. Any suggestions?
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Im deciding between the SVS SB13 Ultra and the PSA s3000i. Any suggestions?
The s3000i will have more output across the board so it comes down to amp features and aesthetics that svs brings if those matter to you or not.
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Im deciding between the SVS SB13 Ultra and the PSA s3000i. Any suggestions?
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Well, the things I like about the svs are the looks and the fact that it is much lighter in weight. But I don't want to be losing quality if the PSA is an overal better quality sub.
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Well, the things I like about the svs are the looks and the fact that it is much lighter in weight. But I don't want to be losing quality if the PSA is an overal better quality sub.
SB13 = 92 pounds
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Even though the SB is 18 pounds ligher I still wouldn't consider it light.
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SB13 = 92 pounds
S3000i = 110 pounds

Even though the SB is 18 pounds ligher I still wouldn't consider it light.
True its also a bit smaller too which is another factor(again, not a huge factor but still something)

But at the end of the day, the real question is, is the S3000i a better quality sub, and if so how much better?
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Pulled the trigger on the PB12-Plus today in oak. I made some mock ups of the 2 subs last night out of cardboard. The 12Plus is a tad on the large side as far as the depth is concerned and is going to stick out about 6" past my cabinet, where the PB2000 would have been just about flush. But I have a very large room open to the rest of my house and was concerned going with the 2000's would leave me no path to upgrade. At least with the PB12-Plus I can always add a seconds one if i need it (provided I can afford it)
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True its also a bit smaller too which is another factor(again, not a huge factor but still something)

But at the end of the day, the real question is, is the S3000i a better quality sub, and if so how much better?
Not sure but 1599.00 and 45 days should give you a clue which is better.
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Not sure but 1599.00 and 45 days should give you a clue which is better.
Hunter is right the best thing to do is to audition both in your home. You should not go off of specs alone this tells you nothing about the sound quality.
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Not sure but 1599.00 and 45 days should give you a clue which is better.
CCHUNTER i got a big big question for you.Inters of watching movies and enjoyment of owning a sb-13 ultra over a pb13 ultra.Do you have any regrets.Any at all.Do you wish you had deeper bass .given the fact that the SB ultra only hit's to 35 herts to 40 and more.I am asking you this because i myself am not going to lie yes my mind has been thinking about the sb over the pb ultra but the only main reason was form factor sb is 17x17x17.And the cost is a little less.I just don't know tho because most of my home theater owning life.I myself have had only ported subwoofer's.Never owned a sealed sub what so ever.I know that sealed is more enjoyable for music.But for film's there good to but not as deeper as ported.So i myself am kinda in arms of what one to get.I really like the pb for it's deep bass and low output it can bring to the table.IDK maybe my mind is like this because i been talking about these dang subwoofer's for years'.Now were it's like enough is enough and it's time to shut my mouth and buy one lol.Let me know my friend because i would love to know your thought's.
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CCHUNTER i got a big big question for you.Inters of watching movies and enjoyment of owning a sb-13 ultra over a pb13 ultra.Do you have any regrets.Any at all.Do you wish you had deeper bass .given the fact that the SB ultra only hit's to 35 herts to 40 and more.I am asking you this because i myself am not going to lie yes my mind has been thinking about the sb over the pb ultra but the only main reason was form factor sb is 17x17x17.And the cost is a little less.I just don't know tho because most of my home theater owning life.I myself have had only ported subwoofer's.Never owned a sealed sub what so ever.I know that sealed is more enjoyable for music.But for film's there good to but not as deeper as ported.So i myself am kinda in arms of what one to get.I really like the pb for it's deep bass and low output it can bring to the table.IDK maybe my mind is like this because i been talking about these dang subwoofer's for years'.Now were it's like enough is enough and it's time to shut my mouth and buy one lol.Let me know my friend because i would love to know your thought's.
I have no regrets. My room is only 1900 cu ft so I needed the small sub. PB13 just wouldn't fit. I also listen to music a bit more than watch movies so there again the SB13 was in my favor. I always owned ported in the past and the SB13 was my first true pro sealed sub. I love it and even if I do have the room for a PB13 down the road I'm just not sure I'd get it. I'm not chasing anything below 16-18hz and feel one more SB13 would be perfect for movies and all I'd ever need. In your small room I'm suggesting the sealed will work better for you. This again is just my opinion. Hope this helps
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8 ft ceiling? Any other rooms open to that room?
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I'm also in an apartment so whatever sub I get, I won't get its full power use unti I move.
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What are the dimensions of the kitchen?
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Kitchen is about 15x 12. It's not completely open to the living room, there's wall that separates it a bit. Like the front where the TV is has wall on either side. But then it opens up so its a bigger space to the kitchen than just a normal door.
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Kitchen is about 15x 12. It's not completely open to the living room, there's wall that separates it a bit. Like the front where the TV is has wall on either side. But then it opens up so its a bigger space to the kitchen than just a normal door.
So, just so that everyone knows, assuming the kitchen has a 10ft ceiling that's 5200 cu ft of space.
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Hunter is right the best thing to do is to audition both in your home. You should not go off of specs alone this tells you nothing about the sound quality.
I completely agree. I ordered an PSA XV15se thinking it would be perfect for me. After lots of testing I wasn't happy with it's sound characteristics (or it looks), so I ordered a PC-2000 to test along side. I kept the SVS PC-2000 and returned the PSA XV15se. I liked its looks better, but surprisingly also preferred the sound over the XV15se as well. I was surprised by how they both performed in my room.
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