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I am not going to lie.Having dual PB13 ULTRAS would be cool.I really would like to in the month's or maybe in 2016 to get myself a second a final PB13 ultra.Dual ultra's will balance out the tone a hell of a lot more.But that being said One PB13 ULTRA is still fantastic for a start.So yes having dual is the idea.Is it a need right now NO.it's more of a want.My home theater is a work in progress and that's why it's my biggest hobbie.And it's something that's very very dear to my heart.The thing is my grandpa had that same love for HIFI audio just as i do.That's were i get the love and the passion.But the main real reason i love audio too is because when i was born.I could not hear out of my ear's till i was 3 year's old.I had too much backed up fluid in my ear's.So yes i was deff for 3 year's.Ever since i got my hearing back i feel in love with sound's.I am 25 year's old now and i still love it.My ear's are ok in fact there were fine just backed up with liquid .It's very common for someone to be born like that.
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Ok here are the pic's i promised .I know some you are going to say my tv is not right on the wall.And it's not.I have to fix my mount with a tool to get it level.Thats the best thing about my tv mount if you get it off the angle you can just level it with a special tool.Anyway's let me know what you all think about the pic's i gave you a shot of the sub in from view and a side view to see how really massive this thing really is for people who were wondering.It's massive.Tomorrow i am going to test out more bluray's.I got the hobbit film's on bluray in 3D had then for a whole now.And i did not open up the 3RD and final hobbit yet but i will watch it tomorrow.
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Ok here are the pic's i promised .I know some you are going to say my tv is not right on the wall.And it's not.I have to fix my mount with a tool to get it level.Thats the best thing about my tv mount if you get it off the angle you can just level it with a special tool.Anyway's let me know what you all think about the pic's i gave you a shot of the sub in from view and a side view to see how really massive this thing really is for people who were wondering.It's massive.Tomorrow i am going to test out more bluray's.I got the hobbit film's on bluray in 3D had then for a whole now.And i did not open up the 3RD and final hobbit yet but i will watch it tomorrow.
Joseph your TV is not right on the wall !!!
Dual will be great but really not necessary. One SVS Ultra is lot more then good starting point it is the best sub what you can get from this amazing company. Many people can't for many reasons to even get all the way to Ultra. Be happy and proud you can. If you can add later on second one that will be outstanding but no rush enjoy one for while so you will appreciate it dual later on much more then right now.
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As long as we're sharing pictures, here are a few of my B&W CM9 S2/Dual SVS SB-2000 setup. As you can see, the room is quite large (over 3700 cu ft), and I'm debating going for a couple SB13's instead.









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As long as we're sharing pictures, here are a few of my B&W CM9 S2/Dual SVS SB-2000 setup. As you can see, the room is quite large (over 3700 cu ft), and I'm debating going for a couple SB13's instead.








Nice looking setup! As for changing sb2000s to sb13ultras just go for it and you wont look back and you wont be sorry
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I got the hobbit film's on bluray in 3D had then for a whole now.And i did not open up the 3RD and final hobbit yet but i will watch it tomorrow.
The Hobbit films are all lacking in bass, the third is a little better but it hasn't got the bass levels it should have IMO. Just letting you know beforehand as you may find it lacking and start to think it's a setup issue
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As long as we're sharing pictures, here are a few of my B&W CM9 S2/Dual SVS SB-2000 setup. As you can see, the room is quite large (over 3700 cu ft), and I'm debating going for a couple SB13's instead.








Yeah, if you can afford the upgrade, dual SB13s would be awesome ... my single SB13 is clean sounding, quick & precise, and has plenty of power to spare in our large living area.
Your setup looks nice ... I'm visualizing dual Ultras with your B&Ws ... :-)

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Having bit of a weird problem with SBU13. It goes loud but it seems to have lost the earth shattering bass. ie LOTR Ballrog foot stomp it seems to have lost impact.

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Having bit of a weird problem with SBU13. It goes loud but it seems to have lost the earth shattering bass. ie LOTR Ballrog foot stomp it seems to have lost impact.
Could it be something a simple as getting '"used to" the LFE effects so perhaps not quite as impressive any more? For instance, I have never heard more impressive output on music than with a single dual opposed subwoofer, one of my first really good subs. The output with music was astounding. I have just as much output now, probably more, but I will never probably experience the impressiveness of hearing chest compressing musical bass for the first time.

Also, did you watch it in the same format?
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Having bit of a weird problem with SBU13. It goes loud but it seems to have lost the earth shattering bass. ie LOTR Ballrog foot stomp it seems to have lost impact.
Maybe they aren't stomping hard enough to shatter the earth.
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Problem is I've changed av pre which means levels are different too. Plus I may be remembering the PC Ultra 13. And perhaps I used to have +3dB for DD/DTS modes (for PCU13 and/or SBU13) or maybe when I calibrated I didn't quite set it exactly what I have now, and that has been reset...

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As long as we're sharing pictures, here are a few of my B&W CM9 S2/Dual SVS SB-2000 setup. As you can see, the room is quite large (over 3700 cu ft), and I'm debating going for a couple SB13's instead.
Nice setup, so I have a question and recommendation.
First,what are your impressions of dual SB2000 in this fairly large room, I just ordered dual SB-2000 for my 1500 cu ft sealed/dedicated HT, arriving next week.

SB-13 will surely sound and look great there . But with that big sound coming out of the B&W's and SVS's my proposition would be to add a few inches to the flat screen TV on the wall.
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To my wife, that's what it already is.
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Yeah, if you can afford the upgrade, dual SB13s would be awesome ... my single SB13 is clean sounding, quick & precise, and has plenty of power to spare in our large living area.
Your setup looks nice ... I'm visualizing dual Ultras with your B&Ws ... :-)
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Nice setup, so I have a question and recommendation.
First,what are your impressions of dual SB2000 in this fairly large room, I just ordered dual SB-2000 for my 1500 cu ft sealed/dedicated HT, arriving next week.

SB-13 will surely sound and look great there . But with that big sound coming out of the B&W's and SVS's my proposition would be to add a few inches to the flat screen TV on the wall.
You made a good choice. My room is not only more than twice the size of yours, but is completely open to the rest of the house as well. While my pair in my room would never win a DB drag, they still do a fine job of keeping up with the B&Ws and I'm quite sure my neighbors know when I'm watching a movie. In your much smaller, sealed room, those things are going to hit, HARD.

Yeah, the TV is a 55", bought a couple years ago before we bought this house. It's a Samsung F8000 and is a lovely panel. Honestly, I'm waiting for a 4k OLED with HDR capability to become affordable before I upgrade, or at least waiting a year to see how all this new tech shakes out, as I don't want to be the guy who buys beta max.
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As long as we're sharing pictures, here are a few of my B&W CM9 S2/Dual SVS SB-2000 setup. As you can see, the room is quite large (over 3700 cu ft), and I'm debating going for a couple SB13's instead.








I have always enjoyed the sound of the B&W speakers. I owned them before I moved over to Focal speakers. Thanks for sharing.
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As long as we're sharing pictures, here are a few of my B&W CM9 S2/Dual SVS SB-2000 setup. As you can see, the room is quite large (over 3700 cu ft), and I'm debating going for a couple.
To cut down on reflections you should pull your center forward until the front hangs just slightly over the shelf.
If you do that I would also suggest you move your speakers and subs forward so that everything is along the same plane. Most speakers don't do well that close to a wall especially if they're rear ported. Ideally you don't want them behind the front of your ent ctr for reasons of reflection as well.
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To cut down on reflections you should pull your center forward until the front hangs just slightly over the shelf.
If you do that I would also suggest you move your speakers and subs forward so that everything is along the same plane. Most speakers don't do well that close to a wall especially if they're rear ported. Ideally you don't want them behind the front of your ent ctr for reasons of reflection as well.
While I am aware of all of those things, and your point is well taken, my setup is a collection of compromises, some with the wife, others because of the toddler.


The wife likes everything to be as small and clean as possible, but I did get to purchase towers, as she thinks bookshelf speakers on stands are "ugly." Hence also the small(ish) sealed subs, set up in a very symmetrical way.


On to the toddler. The center speaker is pushed back where it is due to little toddler fingers not being able to reach it there. As such, I do get a bitch of a 140hz room mode off of the back wall from it, but there it will remain until my daughter is old enough to better understand that it isn't hers.


The mains are as far out as I can practically have them, as that is a walkway to the sunroom out back. I actually liked the way that the subs imaged better with them tucked between the mains and the AV cabinet, but they are instead placed on the outsides of them to be able to absorb any careening plastic toys or children which would otherwise hit the mains (which cost nearly three times more than the subs), much akin to how the moon protects us from asteroid impacts.


I think these are things that a lot of enthusiasts with families and non dedicated spaces often face. I envy guys who have dedicated rooms, but here in the San Francisco bay area to buy a house which has room for the family AND a large dedicated listening space can easily cost you into the seven figures. So, a collection of compromises it will be.
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The Hobbit films are all lacking in bass, the third is a little better but it hasn't got the bass levels it should have IMO. Just letting you know beforehand as you may find it lacking and start to think it's a setup issue
I poped in the desolation of smaug.And that has a lot of bass.But it's more of smooth hitting bass.Not all over the place bass.Does it lack in hard hitting bass yes and no.Was i still blown away yes.After that film i popped in the first star trek film from jj abrams.That film has a TON OF HARD HITTING WOW MOMENT BASS.Like the beginning of that film were captain curks dad is flying the ship into the other ship and saying goodbye to his wife.There was so much bass and low bass that at the very end the driver for my PB13 Ultra was moving THEN get this it came to a FULL STOP IN a micro second.I was like holy crap
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I think these are things that a lot of enthusiasts with families and non dedicated spaces often face. I envy guys who have dedicated rooms, but here in the San Francisco bay area to buy a house which has room for the family AND a large dedicated listening space can easily cost you into the seven figures. So, a collection of compromises it will be.
Yup, if I didn't own my home I couldn't afford to live here I'm in an old neighborhood, my house was built in 1921, a working class area. Down the street is a house built in 1918, 2BR 1 B, ~1000 sq-ft... $800K

As to a larger screen... I have The 55H8000 and my glasses make it look like something around 70 inches
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Yeah, if you can afford the upgrade, dual SB13s would be awesome ... my single SB13 is clean sounding, quick & precise, and has plenty of power to spare in our large living area.
Your setup looks nice ... I'm visualizing dual Ultras with your B&Ws ... :-)
No way i could fit a PB13 Ultra in my bedroom. I may try a SB13 ultra as i have a SB12 NSD and it does a great job with my CM9s2's.
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While I am aware of all of those things, and your point is well taken, my setup is a collection of compromises, some with the wife, others because of the toddler.


The wife likes everything to be as small and clean as possible, but I did get to purchase towers, as she thinks bookshelf speakers on stands are "ugly." Hence also the small(ish) sealed subs, set up in a very symmetrical way.


On to the toddler. The center speaker is pushed back where it is due to little toddler fingers not being able to reach it there. As such, I do get a bitch of a 140hz room mode off of the back wall from it, but there it will remain until my daughter is old enough to better understand that it isn't hers.


The mains are as far out as I can practically have them, as that is a walkway to the sunroom out back. I actually liked the way that the subs imaged better with them tucked between the mains and the AV cabinet, but they are instead placed on the outsides of them to be able to absorb any careening plastic toys or children which would otherwise hit the mains (which cost nearly three times more than the subs), much akin to how the moon protects us from asteroid impacts.


I think these are things that a lot of enthusiasts with families and non dedicated spaces often face. I envy guys who have dedicated rooms, but here in the San Francisco bay area to buy a house which has room for the family AND a large dedicated listening space can easily cost you into the seven figures. So, a collection of compromises it will be.
Understood. I'm sure it sounds great anyway.
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I am about to join the SVS owners family...... After researching and reading the SVS and especially the SB-2000 posts here I decided that was the one that best fulfilled my requirements. So, I went online to order the SB-2000 and when I get to the place where I enter my Canadian postal code, the system would not let me go any farther with the process. A couple e-mails and eventually a phone call to SVS we figured out for some reason the site would not let me get free shipping to Newfoundland (when I tried entering codes for Nova Scota and Ontario, the system would have let me continue on!!). Nobody could figure out why this was happening!! It took two days, but I got it ordered with free shipping......though I unfortunately still get dinged by the low Can$....

Many thanks to Jack (e-mail contact) and finally Brad who arranged the order over the phone and confirmed the free shipping. Technology strikes again (!!), but the SVS service was prompt and helpful.

Me and technology.......I was not surprised. Of course, living out here off the east coast of North America, even though it is God's country does have its unusual problems!! Hopefully the delivery will occur within the next week or so....looking forward to adding the SB-2000 to the theatre......

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man seeing those B&Ws makes me wanna get new speakers. My Cerwin Vega 15s are huge compared to yours.. Urs look to elegant!
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No way i could fit a PB13 Ultra in my bedroom. I may try a SB13 ultra as i have a SB12 NSD and it does a great job with my CM9s2's.
I use to think just like you.But now that i have my first SVS PB13 ULTRA IN oak finish.I want to add another one down the road.I just got done watching a little bit of the harry potter and the deathly hallows part 1 AND HOLY CRAP THE AMOUNT OF DEEP DEEP DEEP BASS one PB13 ULTRA GIVE'S OFF IS FANTASTIC.I say the hell with the room.dot look back drop the $2,000 bucks it's worth every single penny.This sub IS A BIG BEAST.Ton legacy is another bluray that ROCK'S IN LOW LOW LOW HARD HITTING BASS.I mean no joke so much good thing's to say about this sub.
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I am about to join the SVS owners family...... After researching and reading the SVS and especially the SB-2000 posts here I decided that was the one that best fulfilled my requirements. So, I went online to order the SB-2000 and when I get to the place where I enter my Canadian postal code, the system would not let me go any farther with the process. A couple e-mails and eventually a phone call to SVS we figured out for some reason the site would not let me get free shipping to Newfoundland (when I tried entering codes for Nova Scota and Ontario, the system would have let me continue on!!). Nobody could figure out why this was happening!! It took two days, but I got it ordered with free shipping......though I unfortunately still get dinged by the low Can$....

Many thanks to Jack (e-mail contact) and finally Brad who arranged the order over the phone and confirmed the free shipping. Technology strikes again (!!), but the SVS service was prompt and helpful.

Me and technology.......I was not surprised. Of course, living out here off the east coast of North America, even though it is God's country does have its unusual problems!! Hopefully the delivery will occur within the next week or so....looking forward to adding the SB-2000 to the theatre......

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I use to think just like you.But now that i have my first SVS PB13 ULTRA IN oak finish.I want to add another one down the road.I just got done watching a little bit of the harry potter and the deathly hallows part 1 AND HOLY CRAP THE AMOUNT OF DEEP DEEP DEEP BASS one PB13 ULTRA GIVE'S OFF IS FANTASTIC.I say the hell with the room.dot look back drop the $2,000 bucks it's worth every single penny.This sub IS A BIG BEAST.Ton legacy is another bluray that ROCK'S IN LOW LOW LOW HARD HITTING BASS.I mean no joke so much good thing's to say about this sub.
Sooooo, you mean you kinda like it?

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Well I had issue with the PC12-NSD being too tall and big around for my PC set up. Swapped the PB12-NSD from the living room to the PC set up, then moved the PC12-NSD to the living room. After a couple of days I came to realize the PB12-NSD was way too much sub for my PC set up needs. This was especially true since I have the Klipsch sub-12 on deck with no other place for it other than the garage set up.

I'm very limited in wall space in my living room, which is open to two hall ways, kitchen and dining room and small hall way to the front door. Decided to try one of my only options, which was to run along the TV wall the PC12-NSD, JBL tower speaker, then the PB12-NSD next to that in the corner. After Audyssey calibration and some tweaking, it really sounds impressive. I'm still not sure I dig the looks of it and my wife for sure isn't diggin' it, but may leave it like this for a while. This arrangement is certainly performing very well, which may make it hard to change it. Here's a pic taken in low light, so it's not that clear.


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Living Room> Samsung 59" Plasma, Onkyo TX-NR509, JBL Studio 180 fronts, Studio 120c center, Polk RC60i rears, SVS PC12-NSD & PB12-NSD subs. PS3 & XBox 360.
PC set up> Yamaha RX-V377, Infinity P163's, Klipsch sub-12.
Master BR> Samsung 42" LED, Yamaha RX-V375, Denon 5 spkr, Jamo sub360.
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