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Running my dual SB2000s for about 6 months now, unfortunately one of the amps malfunctioned so im getting a replacement amp sent out. Once this happened I started getting the itch to upgrade to the SB 13 Ultra.

I know the downside to having a single sub over 2 is the headroom.. but has anyone experienced the 2 vs 1 and enjoyed the Ultra more - is it sonically way superior to the 2000s to warrant going from dual to single subs?

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I went from 1 PB13 Ultra to 2 PB13 Ultra.. There is a difference in sound and punch but far less than I expected.

I have them installed in the living room so cannot experiment with sub placement unfortunately
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Running my dual SB2000s for about 6 months now, unfortunately one of the amps malfunctioned so im getting a replacement amp sent out. Once this happened I started getting the itch to upgrade to the SB 13 Ultra.

I know the downside to having a single sub over 2 is the headroom.. but has anyone experienced the 2 vs 1 and enjoyed the Ultra more - is it sonically way superior to the 2000s to warrant going from dual to single subs?

Appreciate the thoughts.
I had a pair of SB2000s last year for a while, and in the end, ended up with the SB13ultra ... however, after returning the pair of SB2000s, I auditioned a PC12+ and then a PC13ultra, before ultimately deciding on the SB13U ... so therefore, I was unable to compare the two side by side.

That being said, I couldn't be happier with my choice of the SB13U ... I found good spot to place the single sub which provides me with satisfying bass through out our large living area (5500 cu.ft. living room and an adjoining kitchen), with power to spare.

I'll admit, however, that I've wondered occasionally how the dual SB2000s would fare in our new home compared to the SB13U, after reading so much about the advantages of dual subs here. Fortunately, whether it's the sofa (MLP), the computer desk, dining room table, or even most areas of the kitchen, the bass response from my single sub sounds (without, admittedly, REW measurements) great ... I'm familiar enough with my music that if the single SB13U wasn't getting it right, I'd know.

How's the bass response appear to you with the single SB2000? Is there a good spot in your living area where a single sub performs well? If so, I'd recommend you consider the sealed Ultra.

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Running my dual SB2000s for about 6 months now, unfortunately one of the amps malfunctioned so im getting a replacement amp sent out. Once this happened I started getting the itch to upgrade to the SB 13 Ultra.

I know the downside to having a single sub over 2 is the headroom.. but has anyone experienced the 2 vs 1 and enjoyed the Ultra more - is it sonically way superior to the 2000s to warrant going from dual to single subs?

Appreciate the thoughts.
Hi. I went the route of having dual sb12nsd then single sb13ultra and now i have dual sb 13 ultra ...i will say this again...in my room there was no comparison between 2xsb12 vs sb13 ultra...the ultra is just so much better sub that when i turned it on it was hitting like a hammer really to me there was a night and day difference especially i like it much more in movies than 2xsb12...try it out and you will be very happy with ultra...rather sb13u tha 2xsb2k ...no comparison

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Hi. I went the route of having dual sb12nsd then single sb13ultra and now i have dual sb 13 ultra ...i will say this again...in my room there was no comparison between 2xsb12 vs sb13 ultra...the ultra is just so much better sub that when i turned it on it was hitting like a hammer really to me there was a night and day difference especially i like it much more in movies than 2xsb12...try it out and you will be very happy with ultra...rather sb13u tha 2xsb2k ...no comparison
How big was your listening space. I am debating the ported vs. sealed right now and all the concerns about deep lows with sealed has me concerned. I want to fell the bass.

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How big was your listening space. I am debating the ported vs. sealed right now and all the concerns about deep lows with sealed has me concerned. I want to fell the bass.
Mi listening space is around 1600 cubic feet...i had before a ported mirage omni s12 (it was no slouch) and it sounded boomy in my room that is why i didnt like it...the ultra sound much much better...it can shake if it want and it is never distracting...i am very happy with it...awesome ☺ i just wanted dual for smoothening because even with one and my listening habbits the ultra never gave up...but once you have dual you can never go back at one ...i listen to movies at around -15 and have 5db hot sub level

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Mi listening space is around 1600 cubic feet...i had before a ported mirage omni s12 (it was no slouch) and it sounded boomy in my room that is why i didnt like it...the ultra sound much much better...it can shake if it want and it is never distracting...i am very happy with it...awesome ☺ i just wanted dual for smoothening because even with one and my listening habbits the ultra never gave up...but once you have dual you can never go back at one ...i listen to movies at around -15 and have 5db hot sub level
Man, they must be frightening when Ultras start pounding.
I have dual SB-2000 in 1500 cubic ft dedicated, basement space and they rock the place, and when I close the door they pressurize it well. I also tend listen to movies/concerts at -15, never above that but I do NOT run the subs hot.

Kluken, how big is your space, I think if if it is less then 1800 cu ft you should go sealed.

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I had a pair of SB2000s last year for a while, and in the end, ended up with the SB13ultra ... however, after returning the pair of SB2000s, I auditioned a PC12+ and then a PC13ultra, before ultimately deciding on the SB13U ... so therefore, I was unable to compare the two side by side.

That being said, I couldn't be happier with my choice of the SB13U ... I found good spot to place the single sub which provides me with satisfying bass through out our large living area (5500 cu.ft. living room and an adjoining kitchen), with power to spare.

I'll admit, however, that I've wondered occasionally how the dual SB2000s would fare in our new home compared to the SB13U, after reading so much about the advantages of dual subs here. Fortunately, whether it's the sofa (MLP), the computer desk, dining room table, or even most areas of the kitchen, the bass response from my single sub sounds (without, admittedly, REW measurements) great ... I'm familiar enough with my music that if the single SB13U wasn't getting it right, I'd know.

How's the bass response appear to you with the single SB2000? Is there a good spot in your living area where a single sub performs well? If so, I'd recommend you consider the sealed Ultra.

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So when I had a single SB2000 it was underwhelming. I then tried the PC2000 and it was awesome in terms of impact but did not blend well with my Kef LS50s. I did notice with the PC2000 I was getting some dead zones in my 1900 cu ft room with a large entrance into the dining room. Thats the worry I had with the SB13U the dead space, but I figured maybe down the line I would be crazy enough to go dual SB13U..

I guess better question is, between the SB2000 and the SB13U is there a discernible difference in quality of sound reproduction.. A lot of reviews I have read were stating with the SB2000 being such a huge upgrade to the SB12s they were nipping at the heels of the SB13U.

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How big is the dining room? If it is open connection without the door then you need to add cubic space of the booth rooms to the total space that subs are working with, if it is more then 3000 cu ft then yes, one SB2K would not suffice. Duals rule as far as smoothing out effect.

I have not heard SB13U, so I can not compare, but I know I am extremely sattisfied with SB2K compared to Def TEch Supercube I( built in in my L and R towers). Much more extension down to single digits Hz, very fast, good transient response, no boom, working well with both music and movies ( in 1500 cu ft space)

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Man, they must be frightening when Ultras start pounding.
I have dual SB-2000 in 1500 cubic ft dedicated, basement space and they rock the place, and when I close the door they pressurize it well. I also tend listen to movies/concerts at -15, never above that but I do NOT run the subs hot.

Kluken, how big is your space, I think if if it is less then 1800 cu ft you should go sealed.
My room is about 2300 cu ft, enclosed with single 30 mch wide opening near back of room.

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My room is about 2300 cu ft, enclosed with single 30 mch wide opening near back of room.
You can try running pc13 in sealed mode and see how you like it? That would be roughly the same as sb13

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You can try running pc13 in sealed mode and see how you like it? That would be roughly the same as sb13
Doh, I forgot about that. Now hopefully I can find my port plugs ;-)
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So when I had a single SB2000 it was underwhelming. I then tried the PC2000 and it was awesome in terms of impact but did not blend well with my Kef LS50s. I did notice with the PC2000 I was getting some dead zones in my 1900 cu ft room with a large entrance into the dining room. Thats the worry I had with the SB13U the dead space, but I figured maybe down the line I would be crazy enough to go dual SB13U..

I guess better question is, between the SB2000 and the SB13U is there a discernible difference in quality of sound reproduction.. A lot of reviews I have read were stating with the SB2000 being such a huge upgrade to the SB12s they were nipping at the heels of the SB13U.

Thanks for the comments.
I also cant comment on sb2000 sound vs sb13...but the sb12 is not nearly as good as sb13...also the sb2000 does not have much higher spls when compared to sb12 so the ultra still have a lot of headroom left especially above 25hz...the sb13 is a different animal as the svs subs below it...i tried running the one sb13u amp on -5 and avr volume at -10. ..Just for fun on music...and believe me in my room the floor and the windows were shaking and i got that slam in the chest feeling...that was with one...in think is hard to reproduce that with sb2000...i also have to say that the ultra was hammering like it wanted more not a single bad sound just pure deep bass...incredible

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I went from 1 PB13 Ultra to 2 PB13 Ultra.. There is a difference in sound and punch but far less than I expected.

I have them installed in the living room so cannot experiment with sub placement unfortunately
I had 2xSB13U for about 14 months before I bought an Anti-Mode 8033S-II. What a world that little device makes! What AVR are you using? It helped with the low voltage output of my Yamaha receiver and in the 15-20 minutes for calibration, the time alignments were impeccable and tamed my room nodes and nulls with aplomb. The house rattles a lot more now and the bass is incredibly punchy. It was 'sufficient' before, but this is an entirely different level.

You can achieve similar results with a Mini-DSP and a UMIK with REW, but it does take a bit of time to get things going if you're a novice with it. If you have a receiver with the Audyssey SubEQ on it, you should be set. My Yamaha 3040 with "sub calibration" is pretty sad and didn't do much of anything in this regard.

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This thread has been mighty quiet for 9 days now, hope that's because everyone is enjoying their subs.
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Mi listening space is around 1600 cubic feet...i had before a ported mirage omni s12 (it was no slouch) and it sounded boomy in my room that is why i didnt like it...the ultra sound much much better...it can shake if it want and it is never distracting...i am very happy with it...awesome ☺ i just wanted dual for smoothening because even with one and my listening habbits the ultra never gave up...but once you have dual you can never go back at one ...i listen to movies at around -15 and have 5db hot sub level

5db hot sub means 5db over audessey? or +5 on the SVS sub?
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I had 2xSB13U for about 14 months before I bought an Anti-Mode 8033S-II. What a world that little device makes! What AVR are you using? It helped with the low voltage output of my Yamaha receiver and in the 15-20 minutes for calibration, the time alignments were impeccable and tamed my room nodes and nulls with aplomb. The house rattles a lot more now and the bass is incredibly punchy. It was 'sufficient' before, but this is an entirely different level.

You can achieve similar results with a Mini-DSP and a UMIK with REW, but it does take a bit of time to get things going if you're a novice with it. If you have a receiver with the Audyssey SubEQ on it, you should be set. My Yamaha 3040 with "sub calibration" is pretty sad and didn't do much of anything in this regard.

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This is very interesting.. I have an ONKYO 818 but im not happy with the sound of my 2PB13Us... U think I should invest in a Anti Mode.. My AVR does have Audyssey MultEQ XT32, but again im not liking the sound.. maybe its my living room but I feel the bass is too boomy..
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I have a pc12-nsd subwoofer, tonight I wasn't hearing bass, turned if off and on and about ten seconds later I heard bass then nothing (power flickered also), checked and the green power light was off. Did a bit of research and saw there was a fuse that can be replaced and should be a spare one but didn't see a spare but had some radio shack 2amp slow blow fuses, turned back on and it shutoff immediately and another blowing fuse. Any advice on fuse type or do I have a serious issue with the amp?
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I have a pc12-nsd subwoofer, tonight I wasn't hearing bass, turned if off and on and about ten seconds later I heard bass then nothing (power flickered also), checked and the green power light was off. Did a bit of research and saw there was a fuse that can be replaced and should be a spare one but didn't see a spare but had some radio shack 2amp slow blow fuses, turned back on and it shutoff immediately and another blowing fuse. Any advice on fuse type or do I have a serious issue with the amp?
Call SVS for help.. they cant help u fix the problem immediately
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I wrote them an email tonight but thought I'd post here also to see if anyone else had experienced this issue.
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I wrote them an email tonight but thought I'd post here also to see if anyone else had experienced this issue.
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5db hot sub means 5db over audessey? or +5 on the SVS sub?
5db hotter than audyssey sets it...the ultra amps are at -24 at all times...audyssey sets one at -10.5 and the other at -7.5...now i have it at -5.5 and -2.5 db on avr...i also listen with dynamic eq on but i set the offset at -5 db...i find it is the best setting for movies and also sounds great with music and that way the surround boost is less pronounced

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Hey Travis

This is very interesting.. I have an ONKYO 818 but im not happy with the sound of my 2PB13Us... U think I should invest in a Anti Mode.. My AVR does have Audyssey MultEQ XT32, but again im not liking the sound.. maybe its my living room but I feel the bass is too boomy..
If you have xt32 you are good to go...but i am affraid that onkyo 818 doesent have subeqHT for calibrating two subs independetly...i think it is the only xt32 receiver that doesent have subeqHT...it is calibrating both subs as one but with subeqHT it sets each subs independetly and than meassure it as one...i like the sound of the sealed sub in my room better than ported and the same thing is with my brother (he has 2xsb12) ...we both find the ported subs sounded boomy in our rooms...try running pb13 in sealed mode and see how you like it...it is free ...but dont forget to change the amp tuning if you will try it

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Oh...and one more thing...i am back from summer vacation and i cant wait to enyoj my ultras in movies and music after eleven days...

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Hey Travis

This is very interesting.. I have an ONKYO 818 but im not happy with the sound of my 2PB13Us... U think I should invest in a Anti Mode.. My AVR does have Audyssey MultEQ XT32, but again im not liking the sound.. maybe its my living room but I feel the bass is too boomy..
Have you ever used REW with a mic to measure frequency response? There's a good chance you may be getting some room modes that is causing the sound to be undesirable. My problem was not with FR, but with the tactile responsiveness/clarity of the bass notes. I looked up your 818 and it doesn't seem to list the subwoofer pre-out voltage, but your regular pre-outs are 4.6V. I'm willing to bet you may have something else going on, but it's hard to say without seeing FR on a graph.

If you don't want to fuss with REW or calibration mics, I would definitely check out the Anti-Mode devices. They aren't cheap, but it's nice to know you went the extra mile to get the most out of your purchase. What is $400 when you already have >$3K vested in low-frequency reproduction?!? To me, it's like buying a nice sports car and not using premium fuel. At the very least, post-calibration, you know if it was room characteristics or something else that is making your SVS sound sub-par. I would strongly encourage you to buy from powersoundaudio.com as they offer hassle-free returns if you don't like it or find it didn't change much for the better.

As @tommaazz already mentioned, your receiver doesn't have the SubEQ portion of Audyssey calibration. Assuming that it is a FR issue you're battling, theoretically, SubEQ would resolve it, just like the Anti-Mode should. My twin SB13U are 'boomy' in my room without calibration as I get a huge 12dB jump at 42Hz and makes movies over the top and to the point where you can't really hear dialogue as clear! I also get a deep null at 56Hz without calibration. Anyway, as he also mentioned, try running your subs in sealed operation as that should change the characteristics to reduce the bottom end output. See here for a visual.

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I havent taken the time to do a REW... It seems pretty complex to get done... Could be that I will try the DSP Anti Mode and have that bad boy do the tuning for me..


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