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I have a SB-2000 and have a quick question. If I want to increase the volume of the sub, would I turn up the gain on the sub itself, or would I increase the channel level set by the AVR? Didn't know how each affected everything.
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You can do it on both it is doesnt matter. It is easier on AVR just don't go over zero or plus numbers then is better to increse on sub as well. I did it on AVR increse 3db on each sub.

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I have a SB-2000 and have a quick question. If I want to increase the volume of the sub, would I turn up the gain on the sub itself, or would I increase the channel level set by the AVR? Didn't know how each affected everything.
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Are the non-DSP controlled subs the same as the DSP controlled one where you want the sub to be turned all the way up to 0db? If so, you might consider going that way and trying to back it down in the AVR.

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I have a SB-2000 and have a quick question. If I want to increase the volume of the sub, would I turn up the gain on the sub itself, or would I increase the channel level set by the AVR? Didn't know how each affected everything.
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Have you calibrated your sub using spl meter or audyssey?


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I already have a SB-1000 and I am happy with it, but looking for more. Should I buy another or return it and get a SB-2000?
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May be a silly qn - if I'm using the LFE output from receiver going into line in on the sub, should I keep the crossover knob at its max? I thought the knob had no effect unless you were using the sub to manage the crossover.
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May be a silly qn - if I'm using the LFE output from receiver going into line in on the sub, should I keep the crossover knob at its max? I thought the knob had no effect unless you were using the sub to manage the crossover.
Either disable or max out the xo on the sub. Let the AVR handle the bass management.

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I already have a SB-1000 and I am happy with it, but looking for more. Should I buy another or return it and get a SB-2000?
Depends on how much more are you looking for ? 2xsb1000 will be more powerful than 1xsb2000...if you want just a little more than go for another sb1000 but if you want more than a little more than get the 2xsb2000 or in that case the sb13 ultra will be better ...are you looking for more low end in movies?

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I already have a SB-1000 and I am happy with it, but looking for more. Should I buy another or return it and get a SB-2000?
It really depends on the size of your room - the SB2000 is more of an incremental upgrade. If you can afford dual SB1000, then it's worth your while to consider the PB2000, again, depending on your room dimensions/layout.
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Room is 15x20x8. Yes, just a little more for movies. I really can't hear the sub in movies at all. I only have two spots for sub placement and they are on either side of my couch that is against a wall.
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It really depends on the size of your room - the SB2000 is more of an incremental upgrade. If you can afford dual SB1000, then it's worth your while to consider the PB2000, again, depending on your room dimensions/layout.
I can't do a ported sub due to size. My wife already doesn't like seeing the sb1000.
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It was calibrated via audyssey, although I am going to do it bia spl meter as well
I have the level in audyssey as 0.0 and adjusted the gain knob on the back to the 2 o'clock position.
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I can't do a ported sub due to size. My wife already doesn't like seeing the sb1000.
In that case, dual SB1000's would be better than a single SB2000. You can also consider getting dual Rythmik L12's - they're closer to the SB1000 in pricepoint.

Considering your WAF constraints, I think a Buttkicker would be a good option for you.
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It was calibrated via audyssey, although I am going to do it bia spl meter as well
I have the level in audyssey as 0.0 and adjusted the gain knob on the back to the 2 o'clock position.
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Audyssey is pretty accurate setting speaker level. You want your sub trim levels in the (-) negative range so instead of calibrating with the sub volume at 12 o'clock as specified by audyssey, move the sub volume/gain to 2 o'clock and re-calibrate using audyssey.

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Room is 15x20x8. Yes, just a little more for movies. I really can't hear the sub in movies at all. I only have two spots for sub placement and they are on either side of my couch that is against a wall.
in that case go for another sb1000...you will gain about 5db and should be enough as you will be able to set the subs at least 5db hot...go for another sb1000 and enyoj duals
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Okay here's my take on my SB-13 Ultra sub I bought last week.

It's a day late because Fed-Ex delivered to the leasing office instead of my place and by the time I realized what happened, the office was closed for the day. So today after getting help carrying the 105lb monster box to my apartment, I finally was able to set it up. I have to say that this thing really is built like a tank and in a good way.

I ran YPAO since I have a Yamaha V867 receiver and did some tweaking. I must say that I had to turn the volume down because wow...this thing can get loud! Turn it down you ask? As I mentioned unfortunately, I live in an apartment and I don't want to upset my neighbors so I turned the volume on the sub to -10. YPAO set the sub to -5.5 on the receiver and I adjusted it to -3.5 after playing around with music and movies. I have to say that this sub is WAY better than the Energy S10.3 it's replacing and I will have to set used to not seeing a light on the front to see if it's on, but yeah...it's on!

I'm playing all sorts of music: dub-step, hip-hip, jazz, they all sound amazing and as loud as it is, it blends in perfectly with the rest of my speaker set up (RC-70 fronts, RC-LCR center, and RC-10 surrounds). Actually, everything sounds better than ever. I just wish I didn't have to go to work tomorrow just so I can spend more time listening to all of my media!

By the way, if anyone is still on the fence about buying from their outlet store for whatever reason, don't. Mine had a "shine" spot which they discounted $200 and if they didn't mentioned it, I wouldn't of noticed. SVS customer service is top notch and were very helpful with me setting it up.

I would definitely recommend this sub to anyone. The only negative thing I have about it is the the grille - not really a fan of it.
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SB13U ... a terrific sub indeed :-)

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FYI. SVS is have a nice clearance sale in the outlet section. Moving sale.


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Deals in the outlet don't appear to be better than they were this past Memorial Day. Overall though, considering that the (2)Ultra Bookshelf's and the SB-2000 I received looked mint, I would say saving any money is a bonus.

I got the email this morning and have been wanting to add another SB-2000 and a Ultra Center but the deals seem to be $50-$100 higher per speaker than what I paid a few months ago in the outlet section, so I will wait.
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Does the PC-2000 really extended slightly deeper than the PB-2000?

SVS lists the PC-2000 at 16-260 +/-3dB and then PB-2000 at 17-260 +/-3dB The PC-2000 frequency response graph shows a more gradual drop-off. It probably would not be useable on either but the SVS frequency graph of the PC-2000 shows 10+ more dB output at 10Hz than the PB-2000 and it looks slightly more at 20 Hz:

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Anyone heard/had both? Does the PC-2000 really play slightly flatter under 20 Hz as the graphs indicate? Is there any downside as far as sound quality/extension/punch of the PC-2000 to the PB-2000? Or are the two models on par with each other in sound?

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Does the PC-2000 really extended slightly deeper than the PB-2000?

SVS lists the PC-2000 at 16-260 +/-3dB and then PB-2000 at 17-260 +/-3dB The PC-2000 frequency response graph shows a more gradual drop-off. It probably would not be useable on either but the SVS frequency graph of the PC-2000 shows 10+ more dB output at 10Hz than the PB-2000 and it looks slightly more at 20 Hz:

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Anyone heard/had both? Does the PC-2000 really play slightly flatter under 20 Hz as the graphs indicate? Is there any downside as far as sound quality/extension/punch of the PC-2000 to the PB-2000? Or are the two models on par with each other in sound?
Over all they are very similar, like all PB and PC models ( maybe except Ultras some people said there is bigger different), only your ears can tell what you like more. Order both of them them and compare them side by side for 45 days and then decide. All will cost you zero $$$. You pay only what you decide to keep it.

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Does the PC-2000 really extended slightly deeper than the PB-2000?

SVS lists the PC-2000 at 16-260 +/-3dB and then PB-2000 at 17-260 +/-3dB The PC-2000 frequency response graph shows a more gradual drop-off. It probably would not be useable on either but the SVS frequency graph of the PC-2000 shows 10+ more dB output at 10Hz than the PB-2000 and it looks slightly more at 20 Hz:

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PB-2000:



Anyone heard/had both? Does the PC-2000 really play slightly flatter under 20 Hz as the graphs indicate? Is there any downside as far as sound quality/extension/punch of the PC-2000 to the PB-2000? Or are the two models on par with each other in sound?
I have had and have heard both models. I ultimately decided on the PC-2000 due to space. The PB-2000 just took up too much floor space.

I would say they sound almost identical, and it's very difficult to tell them apart. The only caveat that makes them sound different is that the PC-2000 has a rear facing port, making it just sound different in the same location because the port is facing the wall instead of the room. But honestly the difference is negligible.

The PC-2000 sounds really amazing, and is more of a conversation piece than a conventional looking sub.
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