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Thanks Mongo, that's what I was thinking also but always looking for an upgrade and really don't want or need the sb13 Ultra


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Looking for some help....was watching dead pool last night in my theater. I noticed my SVS 25-31 PC Plus sub bottomed out about 3 times during the movie. I have 1 port plugged. The obvious thing to do is turn the volume down. Is there anything else I can do aside from that to stop this from happening? I am also using an HSU VTF 15 Mk II in the room. thanks
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Looking for some help....was watching dead pool last night in my theater. I noticed my SVS 25-31 PC Plus sub bottomed out about 3 times during the movie. I have 1 port plugged. The obvious thing to do is turn the volume down. Is there anything else I can do aside from that to stop this from happening? I am also using an HSU VTF 15 Mk II in the room. thanks
Sounds like you're over-driving the SVS. I would put the SVS near field and re-calibrate the subs.

Edit: It is near field. Turn it down would be your only option.

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Sounds like you're over-driving the SVS. I would put the SVS near field and re-calibrate the subs.

Edit: It is near field. Turn it down would be your only option.
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Sorry for naive question, juz curious as I don't have experience on AUDYSSEY and never tried other AVR aside from I owned now, Pioneer.

1. when people say 5db hotter in AUDYSSEY, does it mean they add 5db than what Audyssey calibrated? and increase thru the AVR or SVS volume knob?

2. After calibration ( like on my PIONEER MCACC ), do u use SPL meter to calibrate your SVS SUB ? let's say if I set my SPL @ 75db for all Speakers, do u also set the sub at 75db also on SPL or set SPL for sub at 80 in relation to question #1?

3. if majority Audyssey user increase their db due to Audyssey calibration unsatisfactory bass, do majority MCACC user fell the same or MCACC has better bass management?




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Hello. I just wanted to get some opinions with a potential upgrade.
I currently have 2 sb12 nsd's in a secondary system in my basement. I have been considering upgrading to 2 sb2000's. It would cost me $622 to upgrade. Has anyone gone from the nsd's to the 2000's? Is it a worthy upgrade?
No it isn't worth the $622 upgrade. If your basement isn't that big I would consider selling both NSD's and stepping up to a single SB13.

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No it isn't worth the $622 upgrade. If your basement isn't that big I would consider selling both NSD's and stepping up to a single SB13.


That's not a bad idea except now that I have duals it would be hard not to have duals. Not only do the duals sound better and louder I like the symmetry. Hmm dual sb13's


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That's not a bad idea except now that I have duals it would be hard not to have duals. Not only do the duals sound better and louder I like the symmetry. Hmm dual sb13's
Not to burst your bubble, but the only thing you are gaining by having dual subs that close together is 3-6dB of extra output.

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Sorry for naive question, juz curious as I don't have experience on AUDYSSEY and never tried other AVR aside from I owned now, Pioneer.

1. when people say 5db hotter in AUDYSSEY, does it mean they add 5db than what Audyssey calibrated? and increase thru the AVR or SVS volume knob?

2. After calibration ( like on my PIONEER MCACC ), do u use SPL meter to calibrate your SVS SUB ? let's say if I set my SPL @ 75db for all Speakers, do u also set the sub at 75db also on SPL or set SPL for sub at 80 in relation to question #1?

3. if majority Audyssey user increase their db due to Audyssey calibration unsatisfactory bass, do majority MCACC user fell the same or MCACC has better bass management?

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Hi,

Audyssey measures the subs and speakers with a 75db test tone. It then sets everything to play at the same volume at the MLP. The procedure is very accurate, and with Audyssey Flat, potentially provides a very flat frequency response. But most people enjoy a rising SPL in the low frequency range, so they increase the sub trim in the AVR by an average of +3 to +6db post-calibration. It isn't that Audyssey is doing anything wrong, it is just that most people like to boost their bass frequencies more because our hearing is less sensitive at lower frequencies. Most people add at least a little bit of boost, just as a matter of preference, and some people add a great deal of boost, still just as a matter of personal preference. YMMV!

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That's not a bad idea except now that I have duals it would be hard not to have duals. Not only do the duals sound better and louder I like the symmetry. Hmm dual sb13's


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I agree with the advice to seperate the subs. Symmetry is wonderful, but you're likely sacrificing some of the benefit of dual subs.

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Do the SB13Us typically have some hiss to them, or are they generally pretty quiet?
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Do the SB13Us typically have some hiss to them, or are they generally pretty quiet?


My SVS subs are dead quiet. Might be a ground problem. Have u tried a cheater plug ?


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No, but I have plugged it into an ungrounded outlet. It's not a hum though, it's more like faint white noise. I can hear it from 8-10" away. Doesn't seem right.
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Near a power box? Near fluorescent lights? Light dimmer? Is your power clean? Any beer in the fridge?
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I believe relatively clean. Doesn't matter if the sub is connected to a grounded outlet, non-grounded outlet, or even if it has any signal cables connected. Simply being powered on causes a hiss. I'd call this a high frequency hiss, it's definitely not a hum or a buzz like you'd expect with a ground loop/60Hz power issues.

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Disconnect the sub from your AVR. Does it still hiss? I did have a problem with my Preamp providing a hiss. Got rid of it. No hiss.

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Disconnect the sub from your AVR. Does it still hiss? I did have a problem with my Preamp providing a hiss. Got rid of it. No hiss.
Yep! Still hisses with just the sub connected to power and powered on. This is the new amp, that I replaced courtesy of SVS sending recently as the original one was DOA new. It made a ticking sound, don't recall if it hissed at all. The tick was definitely what I was focused on.

Connecting to the AVR *barely* changes this if at all, you can hear the AVR connecting, little bit of a tiny pop and might add the tiniest amount of additional background noise, but that might be psychological.
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It should be dead silent. Call SVS tomorrow and ask them to help you trouble shoot. Might just be a bad amp.

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Yep! Still hisses with just the sub connected to power and powered on. This is the new amp, that I replaced courtesy of SVS sending recently as the original one was DOA new. It made a ticking sound, don't recall if it hissed at all. The tick was definitely what I was focused on.

Connecting to the AVR *barely* changes this if at all, you can hear the AVR connecting, little bit of a tiny pop and might add the tiniest amount of additional background noise, but that might be psychological.
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I think I would prefer a hiss to a ticking sound. But I agree with Mongo that you are just experiencing a run of bad luck here. I would contact SVS and let them sort this out for you. Sorry you are having issues with the amps.

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I think I would prefer a hiss to a ticking sound. But I agree with Mongo that you are just experiencing a run of bad luck here. I would contact SVS and let them sort this out for you. Sorry you are having issues with the amps.

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Thanks, I appreciate that! I will contact SVS tomorrow. Glad I kept the box just in case.....they actually had offered an entire replacement for me initially, or just the amp - I went just the amp since it was an easy swap and shipping something this bulky is just a lot of work! Maybe I should have taken them up on that offer. Oh well, I'll get it sorted. Still quite a way out from having this system ironed out anyway.
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Thanks, I appreciate that! I will contact SVS tomorrow. Glad I kept the box just in case.....they actually had offered an entire replacement for me initially, or just the amp - I went just the amp since it was an easy swap and shipping something this bulky is just a lot of work! Maybe I should have taken them up on that offer. Oh well, I'll get it sorted. Still quite a way out from having this system ironed out anyway.
As you found out already, SVS has great customer service. Sucks with your bad luck. However, they will make it right for you. I'll bet my 2 PC13's on that! Actually, they did have to replace one of my amps, also.

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As you found out already, SVS has great customer service. Sucks with your bad luck. However, they will make it right for you. I'll bet my 2 PC13's on that! Actually, they did have to replace one of my amps, also.
Yeah, not stressing at all about this, not with their reputation and such. Now, if they say the hissing is normal, well then, I might not know what to do. I do get hiss in my mains' tweeters, very faint (literally, ear has to be on the tweeter) which I think is normal and tolerable. I'd be willing to accept some hiss, but not when I can hear it from 8-10 inches away. No way I'd ever hear it at MLP, but still.......hope I'm not overly sensitive?
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Yeah, not stressing at all about this, not with their reputation and such. Now, if they say the hissing is normal, well then, I might not know what to do. I do get hiss in my mains' tweeters, very faint (literally, ear has to be on the tweeter) which I think is normal and tolerable. I'd be willing to accept some hiss, but not when I can hear it from 8-10 inches away. No way I'd ever hear it at MLP, but still.......hope I'm not overly sensitive?
I had a hiss in my speakers when I ran a preamp. I have Klipsch speakers. They will hiss at a very low level. However, once I took the preamp out of my system, the speakers were dead quiet. That's called a low floor for noise. The amp isn't receiving a signal of a high enough magnitude to amplify it.

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Ive had it now for A little bit.I Like it.
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It should be dead silent. Call SVS tomorrow and ask them to help you trouble shoot. Might just be a bad amp.
Called SVS - they stated that some hiss is normal, and might be heard up to a foot away! This is my experience. I'll never hear it from any place one would comfortable be away from the sub, so I'm not gonna worry about it at this point.
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Called SVS - they stated that some hiss is normal, and might be heard up to a foot away! This is my experience. I'll never hear it from any place one would comfortable be away from the sub, so I'm not gonna worry about it at this point.

That's good news! No need to be embarrassed. I don't think anyone else knew exactly how much sub hiss is normal either. You were probably just a little over-sensitized to listen for that sort of thing from your previous ticking experience. I have honestly never listened to mine from a foot away.
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That's good news! No need to be embarrassed. I don't think anyone else knew exactly how much sub hiss is normal either. You were probably just a little over-sensitized to listen for that sort of thing from your previous ticking experience. I have honestly never listened to mine from a foot away.
I have one of the subs right behind me and the couch..it is silent.same with the other 2.can't hear any hissing..now I have heard a 'hissie fit' but that's just from the wife asking if it has to be so loud.
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I have one of the subs right behind me and the couch..it is silent.same with the other 2.can't hear any hissing..now I have heard a 'hissie fit' but that's just from the wife asking if it has to be so loud.

As I recall, I probably did listen to mine at one point, because I had a hum from a bad Y-connector in one of my subs. I can't specifically remember hearing any hissing, so they probably range from very quiet to a slight hiss audible a foot away, as SVS suggested. But even a very loud sub hiss would be no match for the situation you described.
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That's good news! No need to be embarrassed. I don't think anyone else knew exactly how much sub hiss is normal either. You were probably just a little over-sensitized to listen for that sort of thing from your previous ticking experience. I have honestly never listened to mine from a foot away.
Yeah, and given that I'm also having issues with hum and buzz in my other speakers (without the sub even part of the equation) I might be very overly sensitized to the whole issue at this point!
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Jonas2:

Last spring I purchased an SB-2000 and
soon heard a hiss that seems to be similar to what you hear. I could hear it from about 3-4 metres away. If I turned the sub away from the listening position, it was barely noticable, but you could hear it somewhat. I could make the hiss disappear for a while by unplugging / re-plugging the power or just removing the RCA cable and re-seating it. I contacted SVS by e-mail, and sent along an MP3 recording of the hiss. We tried a number of things......Y adapters, new cables, but the hiss would return, usually within a few hours. They sent a replacement amp.......I installed it and not a bit of hiss! I do not think you should be able to hear the hiss at a distance of more than 20 cm or so...

Hope this helps.......By the way, the SVS service guys were great and very helpful in tracking down the problem.

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