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Hi all,

I'm new here. I've bought SB16 Ultra few week ago and pretty happy with it. However, I just realized it has humming noise, it sounds like the white noise from TV or radio. It makes me feel like there's a fan running inside the sub constantly. I've contacted SVS customer service and they were very helpful, after few emails, they decided to send me a new amp to try out. However the new amp does the same thing. I've tested the sub when it only plugged into outlet.

My question is: is there any level of humming sound acceptable for sub? or it's by design?

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Hi all,

I'm new here. I've bought SB16 Ultra few week ago and pretty happy with it. However, I just realized it has humming noise, it sounds like the white noise from TV or radio. It makes me feel like there's a fan running inside the sub constantly. I've contacted SVS customer service and they were very helpful, after few emails, they decided to send me a new amp to try out. However the new amp does the same thing. I've tested the sub when it only plugged into outlet.

My question is: is there any level of humming sound acceptable for sub? or it's by design?

Thanks
Do you have any "Three Pronged" plugged in fans etc or over head fans, light dimmers etc running on the same circuit breaker as the amp?

Can you move the sub ( I know HEAVY) and plug it into the wall on a different circuit?

I ran into this problem with a "Ground Loop" hum with my Hafler Pro Amp for my R2R and TT. I went crazy unplugging devices etc and finally found a

a old power strip with a 3 prong plug fan for my AVR. I used a 3 into 2 plug adaptor and all is well again.

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Are you liking your SB16s and do they still seem adequate in your space?
I've had them for about 7 or 8 months now and I've honestly had zero regrets or urges to upgrade to something else.

I don't really push them that much and even being in relatively big space, there is still a great deal of additional output I could tap into if I wanted to. For me and my room they more than meet what I'm looking for with both music and movies.

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Hi all,

I'm new here. I've bought SB16 Ultra few week ago and pretty happy with it. However, I just realized it has humming noise, it sounds like the white noise from TV or radio. It makes me feel like there's a fan running inside the sub constantly. I've contacted SVS customer service and they were very helpful, after few emails, they decided to send me a new amp to try out. However the new amp does the same thing. I've tested the sub when it only plugged into outlet.

My question is: is there any level of humming sound acceptable for sub? or it's by design?

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A hum is not white noise. Big difference caused by different things.

Unplug your sub from everything. Just plug in the power cord. What do you hear?
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Hi all,

I'm new here. I've bought SB16 Ultra few week ago and pretty happy with it. However, I just realized it has humming noise, it sounds like the white noise from TV or radio. It makes me feel like there's a fan running inside the sub constantly. I've contacted SVS customer service and they were very helpful, after few emails, they decided to send me a new amp to try out. However the new amp does the same thing. I've tested the sub when it only plugged into outlet.

My question is: is there any level of humming sound acceptable for sub? or it's by design?

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My PB16 has a slight hum.. But I need to sit almost next to my sub to hear it so it has never bothered me.. I only noticed it because a few people did experience the same as you... but my PB13s are dead silent..
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Some sort of founding issue with a wire perhaps?
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My PB16 has a slight hum.. But I need to sit almost next to my sub to hear it so it has never bothered me.. I only noticed it because a few people did experience the same as you... but my PB13s are dead silent..
Is it an actual hum or a hiss? Both of my SB13Us have a faint hiss, need to be about 8" or closer to hear it, but it is normal. If it is a hum, are you hearing it form the driver, is it possibly the amp?

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Do you have any "Three Pronged" plugged in fans etc or over head fans, light dimmers etc running on the same circuit breaker as the amp?

Can you move the sub ( I know HEAVY) and plug it into the wall on a different circuit?

I ran into this problem with a "Ground Loop" hum with my Hafler Pro Amp for my R2R and TT. I went crazy unplugging devices etc and finally found a

a old power strip with a 3 prong plug fan for my AVR. I used a 3 into 2 plug adaptor and all is well again.
The sub has three pronged plug, I've tried different outlet in my house already, the issue is still there. I also tried cheater plug (3 to 2 plug) as well, no luck at all.
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A hum is not white noise. Big difference caused by different things.

Unplug your sub from everything. Just plug in the power cord. What do you hear?
It's hard to explain because this is the first time I have this issue. When I unplug everything but the power, I hear the "hum" noise. the strength of the noise is constant, no matter what I turn volume all the way up or all the way down.
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My PB16 has a slight hum.. But I need to sit almost next to my sub to hear it so it has never bothered me.. I only noticed it because a few people did experience the same as you... but my PB13s are dead silent..
It's hard too hear in most cases, however, in quite scene, I can hear it from my listening position (about 9 feet from the sub). Mine also has a thump when it comes out from standby mode, which I think it pretty normal.

This is my first SVS sub so I'm pretty anxious about it. I mean, I would expect more from $2k sub than the humming noise.
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It's hard to explain because this is the first time I have this issue. When I unplug everything but the power, I hear the "hum" noise. the strength of the noise is constant, no matter what I turn volume all the way up or all the way down.
Hums will be florescent lights, light dimmers, ground loop, electrical panel nearby. It's a process of elimination. I had a hiss when I got a new Blu-ray player. Turned out to be my pre-pro. Took it out of the loop and I have silence.
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It's hard too hear in most cases, however, in quite scene, I can hear it from my listening position (about 9 feet from the sub). Mine also has a thump when it comes out from standby mode, which I think it pretty normal.

This is my first SVS sub so I'm pretty anxious about it. I mean, I would expect more from $2k sub than the humming noise.
It would still hum with a 10K sub. It might be the sub, but call SVS and they will be more than helpful to you to troubleshoot this. Remember, no matter how much something costs, there is an accecptable amount of failure. NOTHING is 100% perfect.

Just be open to accepting help. SVS is known for that. Give them a call.
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It would still hum with a 10K sub. It might be the sub, but call SVS and they will be more than helpful to you to troubleshoot this. Remember, no matter how much something costs, there is an accecptable amount of failure. NOTHING is 100% perfect.

Just be open to accepting help. SVS is known for that. Give them a call.
Yes, I understand that, every electrical equipment has some kind of "noise" and it's ok to have that. That's why my first question is about acceptable level for humming noise from the sub since it's my first sub.

Actually, SVS customer server was very helpful and they sent me a new amp to try out and I have been contacting them try to resolve the issue. I put my question here just to get answers from "the wisdom of Crowds".
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The sub has three pronged plug, I've tried different outlet in my house already, the issue is still there. I also tried cheater plug (3 to 2 plug) as well, no luck at all.
Did you turn OFF all ceiling fans, fluorescent lights, dimmer switches, alarms with motion detectors etc and unplug ALL three prong devices except the AVR and sub and try it?

You might have a poor/loose connection to the ground rod from outside to the electric meter, that is a earth ground for the breaker box.

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I believe that Ed has said in the past that the new Ultra's have a higher gain structure than the old ones. One of my PB16's has a slight hum, which I believe is due to distance. I used a 50' RCA connection that winds around the room under baseboards. A PB13 in that same position didn't hum, and the two PB16's on shorter cables don't hum. If it bothered me, I could use a different (XLR) connection or even try replacing the amp, but it's a fairly soft hum so I haven't bothered.

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It's hard too hear in most cases, however, in quite scene, I can hear it from my listening position (about 9 feet from the sub). Mine also has a thump when it comes out from standby mode, which I think it pretty normal.

This is my first SVS sub so I'm pretty anxious about it. I mean, I would expect more from $2k sub than the humming noise.
Hearing it from 9' is NOT normal. Of my two subs, one at 7' one at 9' feet, they are dead silent unless being fed source material. They have a hiss that is normal. but this requires essentially sticking my ears on the dang things (8 inches or closer), and it's faint. Folks do get thumps in subs and speakers, I do not. Neither of mine thump coming out of standby, dead quiet from the drivers. Don't know if this is a RCA vs. XLR thing or not, mine are connected via XLR, which could very well play into a true 60Hz HUM issue, don't know if it could affect thumping?

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I believe that Ed has said in the past that the new Ultra's have a higher gain structure than the old ones. One of my PB16's has a slight hum, which I believe is due to distance. I used a 50' RCA connection that winds around the room under baseboards. A PB13 in that same position didn't hum, and the two PB16's on shorter cables don't hum. If it bothered me, I could use a different (XLR) connection or even try replacing the amp, but it's a fairly soft hum so I haven't bothered.

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I don't have XLR output from my AVR so I can't try that. The subs is pretty near the AVR (cable is SVS 2m length ~ 6 feet). I'm in mood to accept that hum and focus more on sound quality until I find it bothers me too much.
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Hearing it from 9' is NOT normal. Of my two subs, one at 7' one at 9' feet, they are dead silent unless being fed source material. They have a hiss that is normal. but this requires essentially sticking my ears on the dang things (8 inches or closer), and it's faint. Folks do get thumps in subs and speakers, I do not. Neither of mine thump coming out of standby, dead quiet from the drivers. Don't know if this is a RCA vs. XLR thing or not, mine are connected via XLR, which could very well play into a true 60Hz HUM issue, don't know if it could affect thumping?
Maybe I overstated it however last night when kids already went to bed and the night was quiet, the hum was noticeable from my listening position. And it does the same thing alone when no cables connected to it. So it's probably not ground loop issue.
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Maybe I overstated it however last night when kids already went to bed and the night was quiet, the hum was noticeable from my listening position. And it does the same thing alone when no cables connected to it. So it's probably not ground loop issue.
Perhaps try running an extension cord to a different outlet/circuit in the house and test again - or haul it next door if you are friendly with the neighbor and see if it still hums while connected to power in their home?
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Maybe I overstated it however last night when kids already went to bed and the night was quiet, the hum was noticeable from my listening position. And it does the same thing alone when no cables connected to it. So it's probably not ground loop issue.
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Perhaps try running an extension cord to a different outlet/circuit in the house and test again - or haul it next door if you are friendly with the neighbor and see if it still hums while connected to power in their home?
It could still be a ground loop issue, try what MN recommends if you can. Ground loop issues can be REALLY odd in their behavior - there is always an explanation, but they don't always make sense at first. But a hum isn't necessarily a ground loop hum - get close to it; is it emanating from the driver? Or the amp? If it's NOT from the driver, it's not a 60HZ ground loop hum, it's somewhere else in the hardware.

OF COURSE - consult with SVS too......and don't get yourself into the mood to accept it until it bothers you - it already bothers or you probably wouldn't be bringing it up here - so KILL it now, before you simply accept it and don't actually do anything about it! You spent good money, let's make sure you are happy with the experience.

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Maybe I overstated it however last night when kids already went to bed and the night was quiet, the hum was noticeable from my listening position. And it does the same thing alone when no cables connected to it. So it's probably not ground loop issue.

Swap out the sub cable with a high quality one and see if that stops the hum noise you're hearing.

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Upgrade 12" driver for an SVS B4/Plus

Has anyone here upgraded the four 12" drivers in their SVS B4/Plus? Since it is such a rare subwoofer I don't see many posts here about it. None recent that's for sure.
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Wow I moved my subs behind my sofa. I have never ever in life experienced the amount of tactile feel that I have now. My sofa is shaking and house is shaking like never before. Yaaaaaas so cool hahaha
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I am seriously enjoying having two SB13Us as opposed to just the one until recently. Two subs just simply KICK A$$. It's like night and day, at least for my space. Just had to throw that comment out there because I am so STOKED, glad I made the choice to go dual.

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Glad to see people enjoying their subs.

The 2 subs behind the couch is crazy. Do not play flight of the Phoenix. You'll need spinal surgery. Lol


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Maybe I overstated it however last night when kids already went to bed and the night was quiet, the hum was noticeable from my listening position. And it does the same thing alone when no cables connected to it. So it's probably not ground loop issue.
I know it's in a totally different power class but I have no noise from my SB2000's. No thump coming out of standby, and dead silent with no source material. The one thing your description did remind me of was the sound my subs make when mucking with the audio cable connector (plugging / unplugging when I forget to turn the sub off first). So as another poster mentioned, do you have good quality cabling from your AVR? Doesn't have to be snake-oil, just something decent with a tight connection to the sub (and the AVR). I'm using Mediabridge Ultra from Amazon cost $10. Include in that any angle adapters you might have in series too.

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Glad to see people enjoying their subs.

The 2 subs behind the couch is crazy. Do not play flight of the Phoenix. You'll need spinal surgery. Lol


Guys. Have a question: does anyone make a sub isolation pad for the PC 13 Ultra? Everything I see is 15". Sub is 16'. My other sub is a pc12 and that's 16" too.
SVS make isolation feet.
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